i love dutch passion.

steve1978

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o.k guys i know its controversial but i do. here why. my first "proper" grow i used green house seed co seeds and out of 16 plants i had about 4 retards and 2 that in the end i threw away as the seed content made them practically unsmokable. the ones that were stable were good but i wasnt impressed with the stabilality overall. i am now groing 3 different varietys of dutch passion plants. all had a good rate of germination and have been very stable. out of 26 feminized i had 2 hermies. both which i brutally chopped at the first sign of love sacks. the selection is awesome. and i will definatly stick with dutch passion. i would like to try d.j short but he doesnt have a website. or does he??
anyway pics
 

Brick Top

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You can find DJ Short genetics through The Attitude Seed Bank http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/

It can be Dutch Passion or any other of the upper echelon of breeders but once at that level of genetics the entire line on average will be better than that of other breeders.

Sometimes the difference between breeders is not so much their stable of genetics to work with or their know-how but that one will only market their home runs and triples but won’t market their doubles or singles. Then other breeders will market them all, even their bunts.

Green House Seeds seems to take the shotgun approach to marketing, just blast away filling the air with numerous new strains and market them well and price them appealing enough and enough will sell to more than make it work it for Green House Seeds. There are some values in the line, but there are some where there are much better options for something similar, or of a knockoff that each made, that are as reasonably priced that should be picked.

The problem is you really only have four options as to how to decide which of the Green House Seeds strains are ones that are values. You can take the opinion of a stranger who might have a very different ‘scale’ of good or bad or impressive or not than you. You can rely on breeder information. You can rely on a combination of the first two, if you are lucky enough to have access to many grow reports and smoke reports for whatever you might grow. Or you can wade through the line trying anything that has the general genetic combination you prefer and see for yourself. Not a popular option given the size of the line.

Sometime the difference in being very pleased or being dissatisfied with your final results can be an accidental/unknown error or stroke of luck that is either conditional due to your setup or just something the breeder information did not go into or even just a combination of taste and timing.

When I tried Green House Seeds Lemon Skunk the growth was between great and too damn much of it, so in that way I could not have been happier. Shortly before harvesting, in roughly the last 6 or maybe 9 days, I nipped a test sample bud and did a quick dry, but not involving heat so as to not degrade the THC. I thought it was good but I figured if it did not really improve some in what little time it had left I could not understand how it was a Cup winner.

I dried it and cured it as I normally do with something I never grew before where I may know if something is beneficial or not and I might do different. Basically that is drying in as close to optimal conditions as I can maintain and then when time give a 2-week cure and give it a try.

It might have been my imagination but when I sampled the cured bud it almost seemed less potent/impressive than the early sample bud, when I know it was not ready for harvest. It was ok but I thought there is no way that stuff deserved to win a Cup.

When I grew it, it was part of a mixed run and while I did try a few more buds over the next few days, soon I ignored the Lemon Skunk and enjoyed the others that had by then also cured. As those strains began to dwindle I figured I should slip in some Lemon Skunk now and then. I figured that rather than get stuck with nothing but it at the end I would mix things up some and it would help make the ‘better’ strains last longer.

I really do not know how many months the Lemon Skunk sat in its jars but what came out of those jars was as different as day and night to the early sample bud and the post-2-week cure buds. It was not a case where I had built up a tolerance to the others and this was different so it just seemed better. It was way better. Then I understood how it could win a Cup.

I wished I had sampled it on a bit of a schedule so I would know if it needed two weeks and just one day longer curing or two months and 27 days longer curing or what. All I can say is that at least in my case/experience a much longer cure made all the difference in the world. Had I not happened into a longer cure I would never have grown Lemon Skunk again, which I have and I likely will again one day.

Maybe in some cases what really makes a good breeder is our skill, or as in my case, luck, that causes us to find a way to tickle that little extra out of some strain that some others miss because they always follow a rigid routine for curing and seldom if ever deviate from it.

The easiest thing for someone to do would be when their normal length curing time ends, if they normally stick to one, and like some they remove their buds from their jars or containers and repackage them in some way, if instead more of them left their harvest in jars/curing containers in curing conditions for as long as possible, to dip into the strain or different strains when needed but as in bud or two at a time or if they had a few small jars take a jar of one kind and then the next etc. depending on number of strains, but leave as much as possible in prime curing conditions for as long as possible.

Not all strains will see much, if any, improvement with an extended curing. It is all a matter of how long it takes the THC created by that particular genetic combination to become fully psychoactive. But if you try it with as many strains as you can, now and then like a great year for wine or that MILF down the street, you find one that just keeps getting better and better with age until you can hardly believe it is the same strain and you question if you mixed up a jar or something. It becomes far more than you expected from it after your earlier samples and possibly even in comparison to good things you had heard about it before purchasing it and what all you had hopes for.
 

steve1978

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yeah i think there is a certain amount of luck with regard to seeds and setup. im sure some people, for example their temps on the high side and where as one strain might not enjoy a different strain might thrive. i also feel that alot of people buy out of their local head shop where the seeds may have been sat for a long period of time. i think its worth asking when buying seeds how fresh the stock is. even the best standard of seeds will diminish over time.
in regard to green house seeds i think that the price justifies the fact that maybe the seeds are not a1. i mean you could buy 20 seeds for the price of 10 plant the whole lot and select the prime phenos.
i will have to look at the dj short varieties as he seems a very reputable breeder. however from a commercial stand point the euphoria by dp looks like it will be awesome.

View attachment 902937 euphoria bud after 6 weeks.
 

Brick Top

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yeah i think there is a certain amount of luck with regard to seeds and setup. im sure some people, for example their temps on the high side and where as one strain might not enjoy a different strain might thrive. i also feel that alot of people buy out of their local head shop where the seeds may have been sat for a long period of time. i think its worth asking when buying seeds how fresh the stock is. even the best standard of seeds will diminish over time.
in regard to green house seeds i think that the price justifies the fact that maybe the seeds are not a1. i mean you could buy 20 seeds for the price of 10 plant the whole lot and select the prime phenos.
i will have to look at the dj short varieties as he seems a very reputable breeder. however from a commercial stand point the euphoria by dp looks like it will be awesome.

View attachment 902937 euphoria bud after 6 weeks.
One breeder I always recommend at least looking through his line before deciding, that is if someone is unsure of what to purchase and from whom, is Reeferman. He has a good line, a wide varied line, he has had his share of true victories and he is not a new kid on the block, he’s long in the tooth …. as breeders go anyway. He was considered a pro among pros when many members here were nothing more than the gleam in the eye of two strangers at a Guns & Roses concert.

It is at least worth looking and I can add that while it is true that everyone’s likes and dislikes and standards vary, if I took the time to really look through Reeferman’s line and look for the specific genetic mixes I most enjoy and then picked the one that seemed to appeal to me the most, I have yet to be let down by a single purchase of Reeferman’s gear.

Myself, I am a bit partial to Willie Nelson, but that’s just me. You can find just about any mix of genetics that appeal to you in the line .. so possibly check it out before making a decision.

Also, you can’t go wrong with something from Shantibaba and the others at Mr. Nice Seeds. Much like Reeferman, they know their stuff and they have good stables of genetics to work with.
 

sambo020482

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i see people are still flocking to this thread to pronounce there undieing love for Dutch Passion lmfao
 

doniawon

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i hear some of the new dp creations, use nl5 as there backbone and are alot more stable.. but when i tried my dp blueberry reg.. and my skywalker. i ran in to hermies one both.. and blueberry gave mutant and 2 other pheno's.. i think they need to tighten up.. :2cent:
 

steve1978

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no probs i think thats what these forums are for. i havent tried every seed company but out of the one i have tried i have been most pleased with dutch passion. for every person who likes dp there is another who dis-likes them. these forums would be bopring as fuck if we agrees all the time! maybe i should set up a poll to see which seed company is the most liked.
 

sambo020482

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do the poll steve i reckon your be the only 1 to vote for em but like ya said m8 it would be boring as fuck if we all agreed lol
 

doniawon

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no probs i think thats what these forums are for. i havent tried every seed company but out of the one i have tried i have been most pleased with dutch passion. for every person who likes dp there is another who dis-likes them. these forums would be bopring as fuck if we agrees all the time! maybe i should set up a poll to see which seed company is the most liked.
good idea. send me the link.. serious and paradise my personal favs. dying to sample tga reserva
 

blaze1camp

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i havent grown them out to finish yet but i will go with Dr Greenthumbs...Im growing some 747s and of the 3 i germed they all popped and look to be pretty stable all plant look real close to the same...maybe a lil difference in size but nothing much else...
 

SSHZ

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D.P. is the worse.......if you use their female seeds. Tons of hermies, caused by the way they produce them (very unreliable). I used to use them years ago, but learned there are many out there that are better, cheaper, etc.
 

SSHZ

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Brainstorm is the old Hempstar....... I grew it for a year or two. Big main cola, nice overall weight and colors, 8.5 out of 10 smoke. I still get requests fot it!!
 
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