I need help...(great story)

lightboy

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I got a new job fixing up an old rental for my boss. The people who used to live there trashed it and pretty much destroyed the house. There were stairs leading to the house and the basement was under the stairs, like an upstairs apartment. On the basement floor I noticed a small marijuana plant. I was surprised but I new that it wasn't the landlords because of its location. So I figured the people that used to live ther tossed some seeds over the patio and a marijuana plant started to grow after they left. It wasn't that large, and I made my mind up that I would get it before anyone else noticed it. Like 1 to 2 weeks went by and I didn't really have an opportunity to get it and it was getting bigger. At that momment it was 31 inches and grew amazingly fast in the shade!! The main stem was about 3/4 iches thick and it wasn't skinny and sickly looking. I didn't want it getting any older before I got it because I new it would take some time for it to come back. I rode my bike about 3/4s mile from my house and brought a black trash bag with me. I used a small spade to dig it up in like total darkness and I was rushing to do it because no one lived there but there were neighbors around that could see me. I couldn't see so I didn't get much soil up and practicaly pulled nothing but roots up. I got the main root in one peice nad about 4-6 inches of roots with it and but it in the trash bag and brought rode through the woods getting wacked by branches and splashing through puddles. I opened the bag and it had a strong odor. My mom potted it for me. lol. and its been like a week. most of the old leaves dried or are dieing. It was in complete shock and I know the roots are growing back. I have it getting light from my upstairs window. New leaves are growing, mostly from the top branches. There growing slowly but its comming back. Does anyone have any information that could help me bring this plant back? Or any comments on my stupidity. lol. should I use my 96 watt flouresant lamp on the plant during the night to increase growth. Also, should I cut off the dead leaves? or will they fall off by themselves. How do I tell if it was a waste of time and I got a male plant. Is there any use for a male plant? Thank you in advance
 

Widow Maker

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A male plant is worthless unless you are breeding. It sounds like a cool thing to do but you prolly wont have a good turn out. You may get lucky. The main problem I see is that it was growing outside and now its inside by your window. That not really good enough to grow a plant. I would try to take it back outside so it can get better light. You wont have very good luck with the floresent. It will grow but when it buds they will be lose and prolly not as potent as say a hps or mh light could do. But leaving a light on it during the night will keep it in the grow cycle. So you are right about that. But to get it to bud you will need 12 on 12 off of light. So as long as you keep the extra light on there it wont ever bud.
My advice would be to take it back outside. Put it in the shade for a couple days so you dont shock it with the intence light from the sun. For now I would get maybe some fish emultion or some bloode meal. High in nitrogen wich the plant needs to grow stem and leaf. Once you start to bud you will want to find a fertilizer higher in phospherous. Something like 5-20-5 would be ok. There is really alot of option you can do but these are pretty available from local hardware stores. But if you can find a hydroponic store you can get some nicer fertilizers designed for the plant.
The next thing you should do is read some books or get you some videos on how to grow cause it will take some time to figure the whloe thing out. I am in the process of writing a how to step by step so I can win me some free seeds. There is a lot to it so it going to take me atleast a week to get it posted up. Good luck and lets pray for a female. Woot!

Oh I almost forgot. If the leaves are brown then go ahead and remove them. If half my leaf is green and the other half is brown then I just cut off the brown part of the leaf. The plant uses energy to try to repair the wounded leaf(the brown) so if you remove it it will use more of that energy to make new growth.
 

lightboy

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The window I have it at is a huge window and it gets a lot of light in there. None of the leaves are brown there still green but curled up and dry. Should I just cut them off at the main stem or at the tip of the end of the leaf? or should I leave it? The thing is that plant was very shaded outside and I feel it is getting more light by that window than it was in backyard. It was on the side of a two story house surounded by oak trees.
 

lightboy

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I pruned all the dead leaves off and used some multipurpose miracle grow (untill I get some better stuff) Its growing a lot faster and that was after pruning it. I added the fertilizer today so I haven't seen the effects. Im not an expert as you can see. lol. But I think its a female. I heard talk about little hair like structures comming from the nodes. They are only about half an inch long and don't look like they were fully developed when I pulled it up. Will it revert to the growing stage and delay flowering if I give it continuous light? And does that sound like a female to you? Im thinking about taking some pictures or something. Thanks for all your help.
 

Widow Maker

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I had a buddy that grew some plants outdoors using miracle grow. He had no clue what he was doing. When they got about a foot and a half they just looked real wimpy and light green. He got some blood meal and added it to the ground around the plants. They took off strong and ended up being about 8 feet tall when they budded. I was really shocked to see them.
They were just some good mexican seeds. They were big but it wasnt the greatest buzz.
Anyways what Im getting at is you will need more than just miracle grow to get the plant strong and healthy.
And if you use blood meal read the instructions and mix it in the soil before you transplant. I added some to a couple moms the way my friend did and I think they are burnt now.

Im not too sure but I would think the plant would do better under florescents in a closet than in the window. I dont know but where im from people dont just put their pot plant in the window. But I dont think it would get enough light anyways. If you have a window on your ceiling and east and west wall then I would say fuck yeah.
 

lightboy

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I know exactly what your saying about the plant and the window. lol. I live in the country and the only way to even see the back of my house is to drive like 500 yards around my drive way. And if your parked in the driveway you can't see in my upstairs window the way its made. I just do that during the day. At night I put it under a 6 foot flouresent light. and I put foil all around the plant and it looks pretty bright. I don't know but I think a lot more growing happens at night. And you said you can get blood meal from a hardware store? The window is just in the right spot to get full morning sun and when the light starts to die down I put the plant back with the flouresent lighting. tommorrow I'll take some pictures and you can tell me what you think about my bootleged ass set up. haha
 

lightboy

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I put it under flouresent lights for good and I moved it away from the window. I think its pissed off. It dropped all the leaves it was growing and barely has any leaves left. it has like 2 leaves supporting a 3 foot plant. and the leaves arent full size. I think I should have left it by the window till it came back from the shock of having its root system screwed up. It was a shade plant and now its in bright light and I don't know if adding more light will piss it off more. The stem is still green but it doesn't look like its making much effort to grow leaves. What do you think is going on? Looks like its dieing. My mom is a horticulterist and she says its just in shock and pissed off cause I moved it around from the window to the flouresent light. I think maybe its growing leaves to adjust to the light spectrum the flouresents put off? But I really don't see any new leaves. Thank you for your help so far. Looks like I might be starting over with some new seeds. At leaste that way they will be used to the flouresents from germination. I was thinking about adding another light. Bad idea?
 

lightboy

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I put it under flouresent lights for good and I moved it away from the window. I think its pissed off. It dropped all the leaves it was growing and barely has any leaves left. it has like 2 leaves supporting a 3 foot plant. and the leaves arent full size. I think I should have left it by the window till it came back from the shock of having its root system screwed up. It was a shade plant and now its in bright light and I don't know if adding more light will piss it off more. The stem is still green but it doesn't look like its making much effort to grow leaves. What do you think is going on? Looks like its dieing. My mom is a horticulterist and she says its just in shock and pissed off cause I moved it around from the window to the flouresent light. I think maybe its growing leaves to adjust to the light spectrum the flouresents put off? But I really don't see any new leaves. Thank you for your help so far. Looks like I might be starting over with some new seeds. At leaste that way they will be used to the flouresents from germination. I was thinking about adding another light. Bad idea?
 

lightboy

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before I took it away from the window
This was when I would have it by the window in the morning and then move it to the flouresant later on and at night.

after


this is my setup

I sprayed that bottle infront of my fan today for the first time. Good idea?
so I have 2 4 foot flouresent lights. And an incondesant light that I didn't point at the plant and is about 2 feet from it aiming at the pot so it helps dry it out. Then I have another flouresant bulb thats suppposed to mimic 100 watts at like 1500 lumens. Its getting a lot of light and yet it just stopped growing. It makes no sense. All this happened after I gave it that damn miracle grow. What do you think?

This plant was thick and strong now it looks really shitty. My mom says its growing back its root system and thats why its not growing on the top much. Is it sucking the life out of its leaves to grow roots? Thanks for your help so far.
 

silvernomad

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You need to set up your grow area alot better then that. Sorry to be blunt :leaf: But you HAVE TO step back and start from the ground up if you are truely wanting to grow good bud.

You need more light

Like this or something like it......

You need a fan (not on high speed) to move the air around, for stronger plants, and to get the CO2, and keep the heat down (if that is an issue at the time).

See the fan on the right.

What are you feeding them, is it tap water? What is your soil like? Is it dirt from your yard? All this comes into play.....

by the way, when your plant was in the window, it still looked bad. If you take your time, and setup the closet up right, and read up on it, learn how to grow, then you will be ok. One step at a time :leaf: if you really want good/great bud, then you need to do it right.

Closet systems and growboxes <- you may want to read up and get some ideas from this site

peace :weed:
 

lightboy

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how about this?


I don't plan to rest the flouresants on the shoe box as pictured. lol. But I hope you get the idea. The two sets of tubes are not resting on each other like it looks in the picture. They are about a foot apart. So thats 4 26 watt flouresant lights at 1700 lumens each and two 4 foot tubes and two 2 foot tubes.
 

Widow Maker

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Not to be a dick but I think you should start all over. Did you cut every leaf off the plant? lol. You may get lucky and it will grow but I think its gone.
 

lightboy

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I figured it got sick because it wasn't getting enough light under the lights I had. Ether that or the fact that it was practicaly pulled out the ground. Those are the lights I have to work with. two 4 foot up to 4 two foot and any number of bulbs. any ideas what I can do with that in that space I have in my picture?
 

lightboy

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I have an idea what I could do with my grow area. I could make a 3 walled space for the plants to sit in and face the open wall toward the window and line the side and back walls mylar. Then mount the flouresants. That way the plant gets both natural and artificial lighting at the same time. It liked it by the window. It was growing new leaves and comming back. Ive read that you can grow bud by a window and if I add the flouros it'll add even more light. If this plant comes back it has hella good genetics. lol. I put it outside in the shade in the same invironment it grew up in. I think im gonna have problems with the light and all because the days are getting shorter. I heard that if plants don't get enough light and there not in the preflower stage that they will freak out thinking that they won't have another chance to pollinate and turn hermaphidite to self pollinate. Does that even apply in my plants situation. It doesn't even have leaves. lol. I turned the outside flood light towards it. Will that be enough to make it not try to reproduce and stay in the veg mode? Thanks for all your help so far everyone.
 
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