i was thinking of getting this compost bin what do us rekon

DonTesla

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1000 worms, and a vermihut, you are now the man!
thats where its at

1800 819 003
heres there number, maybe they can tell you the source exactly
like glacial, volcanic, or ore from a mine, lol

The 2nd company seems amazing at first glance but upon some inspection I just hope they are using more than 2% volcanic dust and less than 98% mining ore, the only thing on the whole page says " Locally sourced volcanic and metamorphic geo-minerals" so who knows what ratio, and what that means, exactly.

they also say:
"GEOSOIL is an Australian based company dedicated to the development of low cost,...."

and

"Dr Paul Hamlyn leads the team at GEOSOIL with over 25 years experience as a geological consultant, a professor at the university of Columbia USA and the CEO of international company Ore Research & Exploration Pty Ltd.

Look him up they specialize in metal rich ore and I suspect this is a mock up company to get rid of waste in which the standards, practices, and mindsets and coming from miners with standards in the mining industry, not gardening. I would just ask them if any metal is their ore and if there are spec sheets avail..

a one time look into each of your ingredients is all you have to do, I say its worth it. especially since organic soil just keeps giving and giving and giving.

Another solution is grow in it one time, get it tested for heavy metals, you can even have one plant that pushes the minerals to like 20 cups per cubic foot instead of just 15 and test that plant.

it'd be good to pile a list of mj testers in Australia

I don't mind having a list of testers for each country lol
 

giglewigle

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1000 worms, and a vermihut, you are now the man!
thats where its at

1800 819 003
heres there number, maybe they can tell you the source exactly
like glacial, volcanic, or ore from a mine, lol

The 2nd company seems amazing at first glance but upon some inspection I just hope they are using more than 2% volcanic dust and less than 98% mining ore, the only thing on the whole page says " Locally sourced volcanic and metamorphic geo-minerals" so who knows what ratio, and what that means, exactly.

they also say:
"GEOSOIL is an Australian based company dedicated to the development of low cost,...."

and

"Dr Paul Hamlyn leads the team at GEOSOIL with over 25 years experience as a geological consultant, a professor at the university of Columbia USA and the CEO of international company Ore Research & Exploration Pty Ltd.

Look him up they specialize in metal rich ore and I suspect this is a mock up company to get rid of waste in which the standards, practices, and mindsets and coming from miners with standards in the mining industry, not gardening. I would just ask them if any metal is their ore and if there are spec sheets avail..

a one time look into each of your ingredients is all you have to do, I say its worth it. especially since organic soil just keeps giving and giving and giving.

Another solution is grow in it one time, get it tested for heavy metals, you can even have one plant that pushes the minerals to like 20 cups per cubic foot instead of just 15 and test that plant.

it'd be good to pile a list of mj testers in Australia

I don't mind having a list of testers for each country lol
dam dude u really know ur stuff im impressed im a little confused ur talking about the geo soil yes thats the one i bought if it turns out 2 be legit do u think it would work if i put a little bit of it in the worm bin and let it go thru the worms first rather than mixing it withmthe soil
 

DonTesla

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dam dude u really know ur stuff im impressed im a little confused ur talking about the geo soil yes thats the one i bought if it turns out 2 be legit do u think it would work if i put a little bit of it in the worm bin and let it go thru the worms first rather than mixing it withmthe soil
I still got lots to learn but thanks buddy
Happy to help a fellow Aussie anytime

What I would do is grow some greens like romaine or baby spinach or something see if its metallic tasting.
You can get foliage tests done on a leaf for like $30 as well, so grow two trays of greens and thats paid for :)

but yeah worms love sand and grit, see if they eat it all up just sprinkle thin layer on a paper bag and if they like it the bag will disappear too.

The only reason I was a little skeptical of the company was because there main thing is another industry, they aren't gardeners at heart, and when you click links on their site, it leads to the main page its a closed loop and super super basic site, and the other thing is the CEO's background and the fact they say its scientifically tested but don't post any results whatsoever! But I would still say give it a shot, build a small batch for what you need, and keep an eye of for glacial rock dust or 100% pure volcanic rock dusts with mineral analysis.

Literally one good meal and one good dust can carry you to the finish line in the proper amounts in a high humus high compost blend then having "every category covered" from guanos to this to that.

Just keep going at a good pace, stay alert, and you will surely improve hand over fist year over year no matter what, thats the beauty :)
 

giglewigle

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I still got lots to learn but thanks buddy
Happy to help a fellow Aussie anytime

What I would do is grow some greens like romaine or baby spinach or something see if its metallic tasting.
You can get foliage tests done on a leaf for like $30 as well, so grow two trays of greens and thats paid for :)

but yeah worms love sand and grit, see if they eat it all up just sprinkle thin layer on a paper bag and if they like it the bag will disappear too.

The only reason I was a little skeptical of the company was because there main thing is another industry, they aren't gardeners at heart, and when you click links on their site, it leads to the main page its a closed loop and super super basic site, and the other thing is the CEO's background and the fact they say its scientifically tested but don't post any results whatsoever! But I would still say give it a shot, build a small batch for what you need, and keep an eye of for glacial rock dust or 100% pure volcanic rock dusts with mineral analysis.

Literally one good meal and one good dust can carry you to the finish line in the proper amounts in a high humus high compost blend then having "every category covered" from guanos to this to that.

Just keep going at a good pace, stay alert, and you will surely improve hand over fist year over year no matter what, thats the beauty :)
i did see some volcanic dust 4 sale my thinking was more minerals the better i bought a raised garden bed 2 ill ill grow some veges in it n do wat u said if it turns out metallic u think id be able to thro em in the worm bin
 

iHearAll

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azomite is a commonly used rock dust powder. extra cheap and comes from many vendors. many gardeners fear the aluminum compounds in it but they have reportedly been debunked as the Al compounds are pretty locked up and not about to decompose
 

iHearAll

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wow thats alot of stuff i might get some of that next time
im using it now in my soil, i cant complain. i practice mushroom cultivation as well and replaced the gypsum (Calcium carbonate) with azomite and although i have not had the luxury of seeing it produce any fruits as this is a new experiment. i have noticed that the mycelium growth was extraordinarily fast for shiitakes. i dont know if this is a correlating feat but as many mycelium cultures need a slightly basic substrate to thrive and produce fruit, this azomite may have successfully buffered the pH to a neutral. In any case, mycelium is from my understanding the provider of mycorrhizia fungi and the mycorrhizia help exchange nutrient chains in the soil. I have already sacrificing azomite doped cubensis and shiitake cakes to the vermicompost. this is likely naive to believe mycelium is symbiotic to root development but the worms love and the azomite builds up over time.
 

giglewigle

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i dont where id post this but i wonder what would happen i i used magic mushrooms in the worm bin for them 2 eat amd if tere where like spores and the worms ate it i wonder if there castings could grow into shrooms :grin:
 

iHearAll

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i dont where id post this but i wonder what would happen i i used magic mushrooms in the worm bin for them 2 eat amd if tere where like spores and the worms ate it i wonder if there castings could grow into shrooms :grin:
the spores would likely germinate in the castings before the worm eats them. because the worms do not actually have mouths. they absorb nutrient "rot" through their skin. so the spores would have to rot, which wont happen. It IS worth doing but i wouldnt waste money buying a print or syringe to just shoot into the worm bin. I would instead grow magic mushrooms under a sterile condition in a home lab and after the cake or bulk substrate is spent or contaminated, toss them into the worm bin. Will the worms trip out? havent got a clue, they WILL eat your weed trim and bud rot though. Awesome guys.
 

DonTesla

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Ahahahaha, you're too awesome, brother, shit, that cracked us up and made my day! Thank you. Yeah, I would say you are in a great place for organic-organics, my friend! Im sure Subcool did his best with what he knew, as are we, I think he's a good guy just for trying, and of course we all make mistakes, but the Dons will ever stop learning and never stop networking and scouring the farming and AG and organic / med world for the latest findings and research and updating our style.. although we are just 3 years old we are surely going to be giving Sub some serious competition soon if not already, we've been helped by a few people way more passionate and organic than him so I would hope thats the case out of respect for my mentors which are all over here! I don't even know why his good ol junky info is still up there, everyone knows its dang dated. But big moving parts, and lots of likes and reps and profiles are affected by his stuff, for sure, so its probably there to stay semi-unfortunately! However, RIU just may have one of the best online communities in the whole world so I remain a big fan of the place and don't really care about any of that.

Im just stoked that we've inspired you to take the leap even more as I'm sure you will be blown away at the results, and its a lot of fun to learn the nuances and levels to this style too!
 

DonTesla

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For example, when we first started, we used 11 things that I wouldn't use now, so nobodies ever gonna be perfect .. But its always good to learn and grow, learn and grow, thats the key. :D
 
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