"i will be donald trump's biggest advocate in the senate"

DiogenesTheWiser

DiogenesTheWiser

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squarepush3r said:
Look up Hillary Clintons "Whites Only" Country Club membership $20,000 cost she was in for 8 years

I wonder if she has a Nazi tattoo on her v-j? Or maybe some white power tattoos on her ass?
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I quite certain most liberals supported Bernie Sanders, and very few are true Hillary believers. During last year's primary, I routinely pointed out HRC's past intolerance, even being a grassroots supporter of the arch conservative Barry Goldwater while Bernie was protesting segregation.

So get this in your head right now--just because we don't like Trump doesn't mean we like Hillary. Just because we don't like Trump doesn't mean that we agree with or like the Republican-esque Hillary Clinton. Yes, politics is nuanced, and apparently this concept is lost on you.
 
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DiogenesTheWiser said:
I quite certain most liberals supported Bernie Sanders, and very few are true Hillary believers. During last year's primary, I routinely pointed out HRC's past intolerance, even being a grassroots supporter of the arch conservative Barry Goldwater while Bernie was protesting segregation.

So get this in your head right now--just because we don't like Trump doesn't mean we like Hillary. Just because we don't like Trump doesn't mean that we agree with or like the Republican-esque Hillary Clinton. Yes, politics is nuanced, and apparently this concept is lost on you.
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Refreshing. Thank you.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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DiogenesTheWiser said:
I quite certain most liberals supported Bernie Sanders, and very few are true Hillary believers. During last year's primary, I routinely pointed out HRC's past intolerance, even being a grassroots supporter of the arch conservative Barry Goldwater while Bernie was protesting segregation.

So get this in your head right now--just because we don't like Trump doesn't mean we like Hillary. Just because we don't like Trump doesn't mean that we agree with or like the Republican-esque Hillary Clinton. Yes, politics is nuanced, and apparently this concept is lost on you.
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And people wonder why I fight for Bernie Sanders and the progressive wing of the Democratic Party.

I think Shillary is representative of the establishment Democratic Party, and that's a big reason why she lost. They aren't addressing the needs of the average American citizen- who, let's be clear, is earning less than double the poverty line income in America today.

That's right, she didn't even address it.

Yet establishment Dems are shoveling endless piles of shit at Bernie for taking about low wages and economic problems.

Suddenly it's not hard to figure out why this might be.
 
UncleBuck

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ttystikk said:
AShillary is representative of the establishment Democratic Party, and that's a big reason why she lost. They aren't addressing the needs of the average American citizen- who, let's be clear, is earning less than double the poverty line income in America today.

That's right, she didn't even address it.

Yet establishment Dems are shoveling endless piles of shit at Bernie for taking about low wages and economic problems.

Suddenly it's not hard to figure out why this might be.
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you retard.

 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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UncleBuck said:
you retard.

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Insults and graphs of irrelevant statistics are unconvincing.

She did not promote an agenda of prosperity for the average citizen and the Chump did.

We know we was lying through his teeth, but he saw the opportunity and took it. It was- just barely- enough.

Try not to forget that we are both pulling for the same side.
 
UncleBuck

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ttystikk said:
Insults and graphs of irrelevant statistics are unconvincing.

She did not promote an agenda of prosperity for the average citizen and the Chump did.

We know we was lying through his teeth, but he saw the opportunity and took it. It was- just barely- enough.

Try not to forget that we are both pulling for the same side.
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we're not on the same side if you are posting non-facts and lies.

the working class voted for hillary in huge numbers.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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UncleBuck said:
we're not on the same side if you are posting non-facts and lies.

the working class voted for hillary in huge numbers.
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I'm not disputing that.

What I'm saying is that she failed to convince enough people- working class and otherwise- that her agenda would benefit them.

That's a failure of message.

You gotta grow up enough to meet and connect with people on their own level, even if that level is far beneath your own.
 
SneekyNinja

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ttystikk said:
I'm not disputing that.

What I'm saying is that she failed to convince enough people- working class and otherwise- that her agenda would benefit them.

That's a failure of message.

You gotta grow up enough to meet and connect with people on their own level, even if that level is far beneath your own.
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A failure of message that garnered victory in the primary and popular vote in the general?

Sanders Cucks are delusional, it's like you's forget that the EC is the problem.
 
PCXV

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Hillary could have pressed more on the issue, but it doesn't take a genius to figure out she was going to continue to fight for the poor and working class 10,000x harder than Trump. She was a step in the right direction, and I'm pissed people are so fucking stupid to take us backwards with Trump.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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PCXV said:
Hillary could have pressed more on the issue, but it doesn't take a genius to figure out she was going to continue to fight for the poor and working class 10,000x harder than Trump. She was a step in the right direction, and I'm pissed people are so fucking stupid to take us backwards with Trump.
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The world looked at the last election like a test, and rightfully so;
Bernie was the A
Clinton was the C
Chump was the failing grade.
 
dagwood45431

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sixstring2112 said:
@UncleBuck asked me to copy n paste this so the emotional one could see it;

calm down, you're all emotional.
@UncleBuck asked me to copy n paste this so the emotional one could see it;

calm down, you're all emotional.
@UncleBuck asked me to copy n paste this so the emotional one could see it;

calm down, you're all emotional.
@UncleBuck asked me to copy n paste this so the emotional one could see it;

calm down, you're all emotional.
@UncleBuck asked me to copy n paste this so the emotional one could see it;

calm down, you're all emotional.
@UncleBuck asked me to copy n paste this so the emotional one could see it;

calm down, you're all emotional.
lol
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You so desperately want to be in on things, don't you?

 
SneekyNinja

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ttystikk said:
The world looked at the last election like a test, and rightfully so;
Bernie was the A
Clinton was the C
Chump was the failing grade.
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Bernie wasn't even in the stadium let alone playing in the game sweetheart, when are you gonna accept reality?
 
abandonconflict

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Just because I hate Trump doesn't mean I like Hillary, it doesn't even mean I like Bernie, hell I don't even like Jill Stein anymore.
 
Fogdog

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ttystikk said:
I'm not disputing that.

What I'm saying is that she failed to convince enough people- working class and otherwise- that her agenda would benefit them.

That's a failure of message.

You gotta grow up enough to meet and connect with people on their own level, even if that level is far beneath your own.
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Quit trying to paint this as some sort of colossal failure on the Democratic Party. The working class voted for Hillary in much larger proportions than did the better off (and white) voters. Hillary won the vote of the higher educated, the Latino vote, the African American vote, the women's vote, and she dominated the votes of working class. She lost in a few key states by a few thousand votes and the EC decided it by putting in place a minority president.

If Democrats had lost in epic proportions, then the claim that "We have to tear down the Democratic party to the lug nuts and build anew" would make sense. As it is, it's a bit hysterical given what actually happened.

In fact, the mainstream Democratic Party is reaching out. When Sanders and Perez met with their supporters in joint sessions, Bernie's boys chanted "Sanders would have won" to drown out Perez. The dialogue has to go both ways.
 
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ttystikk

ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
Quit trying to paint this as some sort of colossal failure on the Democratic Party. The working class voted for Hillary in much larger proportions than did the better off (and white) voters. Hillary won the vote of the higher educated, the Latino vote, the African American vote, the women's vote, and she dominated the votes of working class. She lost in a few key states by a few thousand votes and the EC decided it by putting in place a minority president.

If Democrats had lost in epic proportions, then the claim that "We have to tear down the Democratic party to the lug nuts and build anew" would make sense. As it is, it's a bit hysterical given what actually happened.

In fact, the mainstream Democratic Party is reaching out. When Sanders and Perez met with their supporters in joint sessions, Bernie's boys chanted "Sanders would have won" to drown out Perez. The dialogue has to go both ways.
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Yes, that was the current- and it went on until the DJ stormed them out!

Why the fuck do all these Democrats think nothing at all is wrong with a party that is failing so badly to represent its constituents?

That's just arrogant as fuck!
 
UncleBuck

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arrogance is thinking the guy who lost the primary by 4 million votes is all we need to fix everything after an election in which we picked up seats in the house, senate, and got 3 million more votes in the general.
 
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