If the November bill gets passed, what does that mean for us growers?

brickedup417 said:

if you read the article you would see thats the most acurate up to date (today) you can dislike it as much as you want its the truth, ahahaha this wont pass

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So that poll contradicts every single other poll that has come out in the last year, but we are supposed to believe that one is right and every other poll is wrong because some random newspaper columnist says so? Yeah, that's makes perfect sense.

like i said you can find anyway to attack and discredit any article I spend my days in the garden or down at the local collective helping out , and everybody i have talked to is voteing no. tons of people pour in everyday and i havent heard one person that is for prop19

brickedup417 said:

like i said you can find anyway to attack and discredit any article

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It's not a news article, those are written by reporters. This opinion piece was written by a columnist. He offers absolutely no proof to back up his logic defying claim.

So yes, I can attack and discredit it because it's not credible information. There have been about 30 or so major state wide polls taken in the last year, every poll except that one shows prop 19 passing. Why am I supposed to believe they are all wrong and that one is right?

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it isnt an opinion its bact up by facts if you read the column it says they did a recent study not last year recent. I noticed this is like one of the only threads you stay on, your gonna be really upset in november when this dosent pass

researchkitty said:

Only in America would 350 million people allow their country to be run by 500 people and let them tax you 30-40% of your income. Good job!

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You are welcome to leave if you like!

brickedup417 said:

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it isnt an opinion its bact up by facts if you read the column it says they did a recent study not last year recent.

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What facts? It basically says that when polls are done by asking people face to face they don't support prop19. So what? When asked over the phone (more anonymously) they support prop 19. That only proves that people don't want to admit to supporting prop 19 in public. Luckily voting booths are private.

Dan,

Really, where do you get your poll results? Norml?

The Ruiner said:

Dan,

Really, where do you get your poll results? Norml?

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Is normal part of the evil prop 19 conspiracy?

Read the ballotopedia on prop 19. All the polls except 1 have it passing. To claim the one statistical anomaly in that group is correct and every other poll is wrong isn't sound logic. Seems way more likely that they conducted that one poll in an inaccurate way.

http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/California_Proposition_19,_the_Marijuana_Legalization_Initiative_(2010)

brickedup417 said:

I noticed this is like one of the only threads you stay on, your gonna be really upset in november when this dosent pass

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I'll be ok either way. But this whole thing is starting to remind me of a past election.

Do you all remember when we could have had Al Gore as president, but we didn't because he wasn't liberal enough so people voted for Nader? How'd that work out again? Oh yeah, we got 8 years of George Bush.

All you guys who are voting against prop 19 because it's not perfect are the 2010 version of Nader supporters. Sure Nader was right about pretty much everything he said, but Gore would have been a hell of a lot better than Bush. Yeah, supporters you may be right about prop 19 having flaws, but prop 19 passing is still a hell of a lot better than continuing prohibition. If prop 19 fails and 5 years from now we still have no legal cannabis, it'll be on you.

5000 a year, no felons From news on tv in mendo.

yea i have a feeling that once its legal and farmers will have MASSIVE fields of it just like corn and anything else...a piece of corn at safeway is $0.25 which means weed could drop to a like a dollar an ounce plus that $50 tax that will come with it so there would be no point to grow it cause id be so cheap

Just a little info on the subject. In 1988 Phillip Morris bought 55,000+ acres in the emarald triangle (Mendicino and Humbolt) just waiting for this to come to fruition. Something to think about.

socal420soldier said:

Just a little info on the subject. In 1988 Phillip Morris bought 55,000+ acres in the emarald triangle (Mendicino and Humbolt) just waiting for this to come to fruition. Something to think about.

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Not that I doubt you but I would really like to know where you have sourced this from...It makes a lot of sense.

If you are an authorized medical marijuana patient or one's authorized caregiver you are permitted to grow a limited amount of cannabis.

There is excellent black market weed grown in California. I'm not clear what that has to do with the medical marijuana laws. If cannabis grown under the medical marijuana laws enters the market for non-medical marijuana users it's as illegal as any other marijuana.

Shangeet said:

If you are an authorized medical marijuana patient or one's authorized caregiver you are permitted to grow a limited amount of cannabis.

There is excellent black market weed grown in California. I'm not clear what that has to do with the medical marijuana laws. If cannabis grown under the medical marijuana laws enters the market for non-medical marijuana users it's as illegal as any other marijuana.

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researchkitty said:

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Shangeet said:

I think it will help for the newbi...

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I'm thinking not.

the S.10 bill did get passed. obama went around congress and signed it.
what this means is now small growers will have to pay 200 dollars a year to the gov just to sell at farmers markets.
it also means the black market is going to really take off.
we are a small otganic tobacco grower and we have customers after customers waiting to buy our organic tobacco at 10.00 a pound.