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"If you do not believe in climate change, you should not be allowed to hold public office"

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Padawanbater2, Oct 3, 2016.

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    dagwood45431

    dagwood45431 Well-Known Member

    You certainly are.
     
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    esh dov ets

    esh dov ets Well-Known Member

    never be rid of sex workers till you get rid of money. drug dealing can be automated.
     
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    esh dov ets

    esh dov ets Well-Known Member

    poverty , class inequality, education and racism are all human rights issues. Each one is effected by if not determined by economic politics and other politics.
    Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs deals with psychology not politics. Government should protect the whole pyramid or it's no good. If you want to say human rights then other social issues are more important than economic issues.. those issues are not separate issues only different angle of the same problems. mainly economic growth over human wellbeing.
     
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    esh dov ets

    esh dov ets Well-Known Member

    you calling the nazi Jewish?
     
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    dagwood45431

    dagwood45431 Well-Known Member

    No, I was saying 666888 is certainly "special" i.e.retarded.
     
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    dagwood45431

    dagwood45431 Well-Known Member

    Or until there are passable sexbots.
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    For $15-30k u can already get them with AI and they'll learn your preferences.

    This could be the end of the human race...
     
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    esh dov ets

    esh dov ets Well-Known Member

    sexbots won't cut it. certainly alter the market though.
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    When the men come out...
     
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    SneekyNinja

    SneekyNinja Well-Known Member

    Would it potentially be the end of rape or is that primarily about control?
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    Not my department.
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    NYT Interactive following a team from Columbia University as they study Antarctica and its accelerating rate of ice loss. Three parts, videos, fascinating stuff;

    http://nextdraft.us2.list-manage.co...3e87fee61c1a534a9d&id=5b38d5f72c&e=1413ecadab

    Fun facts; without the ice, Antarctica is not a contingent, it's an archipelago. Much of its ice is two MILES thick. This is why it's such a problem if it melts. Much of the warming and accelerating of glacial movement delivering ice to the ocean is suspected to be coming from underneath.

    If you live near Miami Beach or anywhere within a few miles of the shore and less than 6 feet above sea level, I recommend selling your property and moving, forthwith.
     
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    esh dov ets

    esh dov ets Well-Known Member

    bet it would help but not stop it.
     
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    ANC

    ANC Well-Known Member

    They carried a story this morning of that frozen seed vault having its entrance flooded during a massive melt, they never expected or planned for.
     
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    esh dov ets

    esh dov ets Well-Known Member

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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

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    Fogdog

    Fogdog Well-Known Member

    I read the article, thanks for the heads up on this. The seeds stored there contain generations of learning taught by the land and the seed crop itself. Knowledge of farmers in the distant past is stored in those seeds. Water never reached the vault and no damage done, whew. It's a bigger deal than the library of Alexandria which was burned more than 2,000 years ago and mankind still regrets the loss.

    The part that boggles me is the claim made by the vault caretakers of "forever". Even at -18C, seeds don't last forever. Some last a long time. I guess the outlandish claim was necessary in order to secure funding.

    The things that aren't anticipated cause the real pain. The irony draws a snicker is that this impregnable fortress, intended to act as a repository of seed genetics "forever" and without human caretakers, fails due to a design flaw because global warming.
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    There's a big national seed storage laboratory in my city, associated with the agricultural land grant university here. The vaults just hold the seeds, they still need a team of people to periodically germinate the seeds in storage, put them through their life cycle and harvest fresh seed to store again. Different species have different shelf lives.

    As is often the case here in the States, the needed funding for the lab workers is lacking and so they're falling behind their schedule. We are so fucking short-sighted in this country it burns my tailfeathers sometimes.
     
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    Fogdog

    Fogdog Well-Known Member

    I visited a forest service Douglas Fir-tree seed repository. It held best of experiments and testing going back almost 70 years. Also Doug fir native seed collected across the state, tested, cataloged and carefully set aside for use later on. Just walking the aisle and realizing how valuable those seeds were humbled me. That we would short-change future generations because we couldn't see our way to fund these low cost centers infuriates me too.
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    If Antarctica melts, the world's oceans will rise 160 feet. Is that vault far enough above sea level?

    The one in my city is at 5000' altitude, so that's at least one problem it won't have to worry about.

    EDIT: Wikipedia saves the day; it's listed as being 130m or 430' above sea level.

    The melting permafrost is still gonna be a problem though...
     
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