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ANC

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No, you don't get to opt out. If your building catches fire, the neighbour isn't going to be impressed if you say Fuck it, I'll put out the blaze myself.

Nothing except common decency stops you from serving others if they politely place an order like everybody else.
 

Rob Roy

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No, you don't get to opt out. If your building catches fire, the neighbour isn't going to be impressed if you say Fuck it, I'll put out the blaze myself.

Nothing except common decency stops you from serving others if they politely place an order like everybody else.

Common decency says that I do not have the right to use or threaten offensive force to make you associate with somebody you prefer not to. Nor do you have that right.

Logic insists, if all people are "equal" and neither you or I have that right, no OTHER person has it either.

Further logic would then insist since nobody has that right, it doesn't exist. So no aggregation of any number of people, all of whom do not possess that right can create the right.


So, where would a group of people get the right to forcibly insist you associate with somebody if none of us possesses that right?
 

Rob Roy

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Why do people need to force you to just be decent if you can;t be nice.
If you mean me personally, it isn't necessary for people to force me to be decent. I already am, since I don't try to run others lives for them. In that way I apply my decency and reverence for equality of self determination everyday.

If you mean other people, the only right anyone has is the right to use defensive force, which isn't the kind that would be applied when some people make other people use their body and their property to fulfill others wishes and against the will of the person(s) being forced.


There is a difference between using offensive force and defensive force. When we make exceptions for SOME people to use offensive force, and then try to claim it is to ensure equality, the argument becomes a self evident fail.
 
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Rob Roy

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Why do people need to force you to just be decent if you can;t be nice.

I notice you overlooked my bolded question above. I need to be leaving for now, but I'd be interested in seeing your reply to my question.
 

ANC

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I just don't get it why you would just decide you don't want to serve a certain race, what is so hard about it? Did one bite you as a child?
Don't worry about the other people, you do you.
 

dagwood45431

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One of my rules is not to use or threaten offensive force to make other people comply with my wishes.

In your "society" that is not the case. In fact your society has many of its norms based in the approved use of offensive force and further it claims people are all equal, yet the evidence proves that is impossible.

Your failing to argue or address my consistent points there, leads me to conclude that you cannot address them.

Your best bet is to stop spouting things which rely on believing in two opposing things at once. It's clearly a sign of your indoctrination and inept critical thinking skills.
Write a nice manifesto and then commit suicide via your local police department. I really think that's what it'll take to get a spotlight on your wonderfully insightful observations. The people must hear your views!
 

Rob Roy

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Tell us again how (entirely in your opinion) 12 year olds should be allowed consent to sexual contact with an adult.
Does that kind of talk get you excited? I find it a little distracting from discussing what consent in a generic way is or isn't.
 

ANC

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I don't drink. I know I'm a bit of a hermit But I don't know how to process your level of lack of empathy nor why you would think you can make up a value judgement on someone by their skin colour alone. You will have to argue wit the other guys here. I have a 5-year-old, I know what happens when you try to argue with someone like that.
 

Rob Roy

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The fact that you continue to post here only solidifies the notion that there is something seriously wrong with your psyche. Please seek professional help, chester.

I'm not the one who would force a black man to serve a white man against his will, but you are.

Can you explain why you think that's okay ?
 
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