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I'm a newb to DWC need help with watering.

Discussion in 'Hydroponics / Aeroponics' started by David Music, Aug 30, 2017.

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    Jimdamick

    Jimdamick Well-Known Member

    Your my girl!! (lol)

    I have always pushed the envelope in hydro, and in the beginning did fuck up some plants, like when my res got to 1700 PPM, without adjustment for a week. That didn't work out too well, seeing as they got slightly incinerated
    But after years of growing, I think I have found my sweet spot, and that is starting my seedlings in an ebb and flow with 4" rockwool cubes at a PPM of around 700. (I finish in a drip system)
    It seems that people forget that soil itself has a start off PPM of around 700 (water 325), and modified soil like Fox Farms Ocean Forrest is even higher.
    So, in hydro you at least want to match the naturall EC/PPM of soil, which I do, in spades.
    My PPM schedule for hydro in rockwool/Hydroton is 700 PPM for the 1st 2 weeks
    Weeks 3-4 = 900 PPM
    Weeks 5-6 = 1100 PPM
    Weeks 7-8 = 1300 to 1400
    Weeks 8-9 = 1400 to 1450, and then I run Flora Clean to clear out my tanks and rinse the roots and Hydroton a week before harvest.
    It seems that my plants like it and my customers definitely like my product, so all is good
     
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    David Music

    David Music Member

    I have another question now is it okay to pour my nutrient solution over the clay pebbles? Or lift lid and pour directly into reservoir
     
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    JSB99

    JSB99 Well-Known Member

    Are you talking about pouring straight nutes on to the pebbles to ultimately drip down to the water? If so, no, I wouldn't do that.
     
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    Budley Doright

    Budley Doright Well-Known Member

    You should be premixing then adding to res.
     
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    David Music

    David Music Member

    Ok and yeah that's what I was asking I have been adding directly to reservoir so far just wanted to make sure I was adding water correctly
     
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    David Music

    David Music Member

    Yeah I was asking if I should pour directly over clay people's or lift lid and add to reservoir directly
     
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    be4meliz

    be4meliz Well-Known Member

    What nutes are you going to use?My post on page 1 gave you the easiest way I've found to deal with bubble buckets. Get a Ph and a EC/PPM pen(separate critters) , good airstones, Ph up & down to adjust-Are you using RO or tap water; if tap, check PPM as you will have to add that to your target # ie. mine is wellwater coming in @ 140 ppm, so if my target is 800, I would need 940.Mix nutes in 1 gal. bucket and add to bucket and top off to bottom of net pot~ 3 1/2 gal To add nutes to existing res, use pump to remove~ 1/2 gal into 1 gal. bucket, mix nutes and add back to res..Draw sample every 2 days, after topping off with Ph'd water & check Ph and ppm- And keep track til your on auto pilot( plot readings in notebook for future reference). Ph up /ppm down-add nutes PPM up/ ph down-add plain water- both gradually dropping-dialed in. My system works well with access hole, as root ball will take over bucket as plant grows making almost impossible to access any other way.The pump I sent link on will drain a bucket in 4-5 min.into an empty 5 gal. for res change- just reverse to refill, using flashlight to observe water level.K.I.S.S. principle.
     
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    JSB99

    JSB99 Well-Known Member

    Reason being, you'd probably end up with the pellets absorbing the nutrients at full strength and then the roots would be sucking that up. You're plants would surely get nute burn.
     
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    be4meliz

    be4meliz Well-Known Member

    And don't forget hydroguard or equivelent to avoid rootrot.
     
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    David Music

    David Music Member

    I am using the flora series 3 part nutrient system trying to keep it simple. And I'll look into the pump and also just ordered h202 29% contracte heard It was good for root rot prevention . Have you ever used it? And if so is hydrogaurd better in your opinion?
     

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    David Music

    David Music Member

    Also ppm meter and ph meter on the way currently testing ph with liquid testing kit :( sucks so slow and tedious
     
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    David Music

    David Music Member

    Ahhh very smart I hadn't thought of that thanks for advice think of trying rdwc after I get this down.
     
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    be4meliz

    be4meliz Well-Known Member

    Access holes I refer to and a little potporn to motivate you
     

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    be4meliz

    be4meliz Well-Known Member

    Not to be a smartass- But have to learn to crawl before you run LOL- still have the fittings,pumps,etc. for rdwc, just haven't gone there yet; every method has ups and downs-I like tghe portability of the buckets(have 2 tents 1 veg. 1 flower-as soon as I chop the flower side, I can move the buckets to that tent & get another going in veg. no lag, just a bitch talking the girls into being done before my veg. babies hit the ceiling.You will be vertically challenged in any tent if you veg. too long even with scrog.
     
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    David Music

    David Music Member

    I understand what your saying that's why I said after I get this down and do you plug those holes up? Or just let light into you reservoir???
     
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    David Music

    David Music Member

    And no worries on being a smartass. I've been asking lots of questions to learn.
     
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    be4meliz

    be4meliz Well-Known Member

    Never had an issue in 2 years with hydroguard with res temps hitting 75+ during summer- I also use the 3 pt. And switch to Lucas(micro & bloom, no gro) in veg after plants well established. Just mix micro first(shake well) before adding the other 2 And use a 1 gal. bottle to shake it up. For your babies, go 1/4 strength then gradually step up as plants get bigger- once they are~ 1 1/2 ft. I usually run @ 800-900 ppm- some like to push it harder, but better to wait until you can REALLY read your plants(shit happens quick in DWC & too much food is a quick burn.Totally depends on type plant etc. Some don't eat much, some are pigs. Try sticking to all same type seeds/clones as you gain knowledge.And don't buy into all the Super Duper will grow 5 lb. monster additives. Keep it simple as you learn more and more.
     
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    be4meliz

    be4meliz Well-Known Member

    I use a card board cover from my many amazon boxes-just enough to keep light out-light is bad for res water-grows strange stuff we don't like
     
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    be4meliz

    be4meliz Well-Known Member

    This is the place- many great people here willing to help- I probably spent 200+ hrs. just learning before stepping out- try to pay it forward-Will help you any way I can.Main lesson is being able to separate BS from real- don't assume that people are stating fact when in fact it was BS that kept getting passed along by ignorance.
     
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    JSB99

    JSB99 Well-Known Member

    Cardboard works great! You can easily cut it into any shape, and it's really lightproof.
     

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