IN the pipeline: EcoVia 3-in-One for Cannabis

It's on the label: for Cannabis
http://www.rockwelllabs.com/EcoVia3in1.shtml
"Excellent product for use on cannabis" - Rockwell Executive
Get it here when available this summer. The labels have been printed. It's the first label in the USA to say the words. "Excellent for Cannabis Use". Motor-freaking-scooter. Marijuana hits Wal-Mart and an 80-yr. old USA lie-to-the-people is crumbling at it's sandstone foundation.
Get it here, this summer, DIYPest always has it in stock before anyone else:
http://store.doyourownpestcontrol.com/?gclid=Cj0KEQjwuZvIBRD-8Z6B2M2Sy68BEiQAtjYS3HvlF_TK96-qYhjL6jvKs5qm86HyhNfsrIc4Rrqcw5waArho8P8HAQ

Yep, it's on the shelf now:
http://store.doyourownpestcontrol.com/ecovia-3-in-1
I used some EcoVia EC, not for consumption, on a plant in veg and it knocked-out aphids for 10-days without re-spraying. Aphids, and with no room intake air-filters, it's like I'm blowing aphids onto my plants daily.
Includes But Not Limited To: Adelgids, Ants, Aphids, Armyworms, Bagworms, Beetles (Cucumber, Darkling, Japanese, Sap, Picnic, Potato, Elm leaf, Ambrosia and others), Billbugs, Blight, Borers, Boxelder bugs, Cabbage loopers, Cankerworms, Caterpillars, Chiggers, Chinch bugs, Crickets, Cutworms, Earworms, Fall webworms, Flies, Fungus, Fungus gnats, Grasshoppers, Grubs, Japanese beetles, Kudzu bugs, Lace bugs, Leafhoppers, Mealybugs, Mildew, Mole crickets, Mites, Moths, Psylla, Root worms, Rust, Scale insects, Sod webworms, Stink bugs, Squash bugs, Tent caterpillars, Thrips, Weevils, and Whiteflies, including egg and larval stages if applicable. Stored Product Insects, including but not limited to: Cigarette beetles, Drugstore beetles, Flour beetles, Indian meal moths, Meal worms, Sawtooth grain beetles, and Rice weevils.

Thyme Oil... 12.0%, Geraniol...6.0%
Cinnamon Oil...2.0%, Peppermint Oil..2.0%
DYI told me this morning: These oils leave the plant after a week, so even though it's a use-to-harvest insecticide, and last 7-14 days killing everything and warding-off boytritis (bud-rot), the last spraying should be no less than a week before harvest.
Farmer's not liking the thyme and other oils.
I'll try it. Our exterminator is trying to get it cheaper through his company.

About dispersion of the active oils:
"The label gives no application to harvest timetable but most people I know who are using it have settled on about 7 days."

Thanks,
Ken Martin
store.doyourownpestcontrol.com
1-800-476-3368 ext. 7101

Ancient Sumerians used sulfur compounds to kill insects - earliest record of insect pest control ? B.C.. Egyptians and Chinese use herbs & oils to control insect pests..... about time marijuana was mentioned.

farmer's digest:
You asked:"With either one, many repeat applications are needed for it to be effective using 3-in1 (where does it say that?!) and both sides of each leaf (not so! where did your read that?) has to be sprayed. ??
They told me the stuff stays working for 7-10 days."
Answer: The label does not state that repeat applications are necessary, nor that both sides of the leaf have to be sprayed. Nevertheless, that's the way it works with oil based miticides, other than neem seed/oil which contains azadirachtin, a systemic miticide.

OK, there are basically three different types of miticides, systemic, translaminar, or contact based. Horticultural oils (other than neem oil) are all contact based, and they will not work unless the mite or mite egg is sprayed directly --- or the mite eats the oil sprayed leaf. - farmer

Here is a snippet from the well-respected Texas A&M Agrilife Extension publication, about using oil based miticides:

MODE OF ACTION OF OILS
Regardless of the source or type, all oil-based products have a similar mode of action. Insecticidal oils kill insects on contact by disrupting gas exchange (respiration), cell membrane function or structure. They also kill them by disrupting their feeding on oil covered surfaces. Their toxic action is more physical than chemical and is short-lived. When used against plant pathogens, oils may smother fungal growth and reduce spore germination on treated surfaces. They are mostly fungistatic, stopping fungal growth rather than killing the pathogens. Stylet oils are highly refined oils and may control insect-vectored plant viruses in addition to insects, mites and fungal pathogens. These oils reduce the ability of aphids to acquire the virus from an infected plant and transmit it to healthy plants. Stylet oils may interfere with the virus’s ability to remain in aphid mouthparts (stylets). Some plant oils that contain sulfur compounds, such as neem oil, may possess additional fungicidal activity compared to petroleum oils. Oil-based pesticides have low residual activity and must be sprayed directly on the insect or mite. To combat plant fungal pathogens, oils generally must be applied prophylactically prior to infection. Repeated applications of oils may be needed to achieve desired levels of control.
counties.agrilife.org/upshur/files/2011/03/Using-Oils-as-Pesticides.pdf

Q. Where do mites mainly hang out and dine? A. The underside of the leafs.

Systemic or translaminar miticides can kill the mite, without having the miticide actually contact the mite. A systemic can be applied via a root drench, and it is taken up from the roots and into the plant. A translaminar miticide can be applied to the top of the leaf, and it penetrates the leaf. When a mite from the underside of the leaf ingests the miticide by chewing into the leaf, it dies.

This is all basic horticultural stuff -- and it applies to field crops as well as cannabis.

As you know, I'm not into all those "cannabis specific" nutes. I also don't go for "cannabis specific" miticides.

In short, if anyone chooses to use 3-in-1, or GreenCleaner, multiple application will be required all during the grow. And yes, both the top and bottom of the leafs will have to be sprayed in order for there to be contact with the mite. Additionally, a grower risks burning the leaves (phytotoxicity) if any oil based miticide is used. - farmer
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I'm guessing ditto for aphids. - HG

Received by 64 oz. 3-in-One jug this morning. Starting with the lowest dose on my Vanilla Kush and Chocolate Thai. Testing leaf burn (contains alcohol), effectiveness and longevity vs. Spinosad (24-hr. effective only). Results to follow. I've always got aphids to battle.
Dilution Rates: (from the label)
Cannabis pests, including but not limited to: Spider Mites, Aphids, Fungus, Gnats, Whiteflies, Thrips, Weevils, Leafhoppers, Diamondback Moths, Miller Moths, Cutworms, and other pests.
Dilution rate: 0.5 to 2.5 oz./gal. Note: Use lower rate initially to test for effectiveness before increasing strength.
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Plant fungus/disease but not limited to: Blight, Mildew, and Rust
Dilution rate: 0.1 to 0.25 oz./gal
Spraying for pests at even the lowest dose (0.5 oz./gal) would also encompass bud rot prevention.

hydra-glide said:

Received by 64 oz. 3-in-One jug this morning. Starting with the lowest dose on my Vanilla Kush and Chocolate Thai. Testing leaf burn (contains alcohol), effectiveness and longevity vs. Spinosad (24-hr. effective only). Results to follow. I've always got aphids to battle.
Dilution Rates: (from the label)
Cannabis pests, including but not limited to: Spider Mites, Aphids, Fungus, Gnats, Whiteflies, Thrips, Weevils, Leafhoppers, Diamondback Moths, Miller Moths, Cutworms, and other pests.
Dilution rate: 0.5 to 2.5 oz./gal. Note: Use lower rate initially to test for effectiveness before increasing strength.
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Plant fungus/disease but not limited to: Blight, Mildew, and Rust
Dilution rate: 0.1 to 0.25 oz./gal
Spraying for pests at even the lowest dose (0.5 oz./gal) would also encompass bud rot prevention.

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How did it work out?

Cndysid!
Seems to work very well. Light peppermint/Rosemary scent evaporated for the most part after 2-hrs. Here's some pics and measurements. I sprayed this afternoon when I saw one baby aphid emerge after spraying with spinosad two days ago 6/23 when the aphids showed up.
I'm clocking the days until I see aphids again. There is a light oil sheen on the leaves, but not bad and the residual might work to kill aphids and pests with later, or more later than 24-hr. effective spinosad.
Shown: Panama Red, Chocolate Thai, and Vanilla Kush.

I will have to check it out. I have a perpetual grow where I am moving plants in and out weekly, so it's a major disaster when I get a bug invasion. I do a lot of preventative treatment.

You can get it here, or ask your pest control tech to get you some. Mine did at Western Exterminators, for $100.
http://store.doyourownpestcontrol.com/ecovia-3-in-1

hydra-glide said:

You can get it here, or ask your pest control tech to get you some. Mine did at Western Exterminators, for $100.
http://store.doyourownpestcontrol.com/ecovia-3-in-1

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Wow. Thanks for all that info. I keep a bottle of Green Cleaner on hand for my IPM but I'm going to check this out.

BTW, Sweet ride! I have a 85 FXR and favor it over my ST....even for long road trips. Nothing handles quite as nice as the glides

I believe that 3-In-1 will provide a full week of pest killing, and it's also a fungicide!, but I'm still using Cease™ weekly when the gals go into my greenhouse with a continual fan-breeze 24/7. Bud-rot.....not!
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Yep, Glides do just that!

I sprayed 3-In-1 on Sunday and the mint aroma was gone by Monday. I could smell cannabis again and no trace of mint aroma, and no trace of aphids this afternoon.
I'd be re-applying spinosad today if I were chasing aphids with it.

Okay... it's been a full week since I sprayed 3-In-1 on a scattering of baby aphids. ONE WEEK AND NO MORE APHIDS!
This must be cannabis history.... right?! For the first time in over 10,000 years, since mummies have roamed the earth, that there's been a pest control specifically labeled for cannabis.
I'm spraying 3-in-1 again today, I don't know why, but because I can, I guess. But I have no pests. My first treatment was based on (0.25 oz. per gallon of H2o). It sufficed successfully.