Inbreeding Questions

Trousers

Trousers

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CC Dobbs said:
Man it seems like you are asking people here to do your research for you. What is the benefit to anyone that takes the time to answers your questions? You've added on some questions since the original posting. You are confused in thinking that your plant has it's genes all figured out and there will be no genetic surprises if you self pollinate.
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I have done it and found the plants from the resulting seeds are very similar to the parent.
I have no reason to believe otherwise.

Do you have experience with this or are you just guessing?


CC Dobbs said:
Ruderalis genes seem to have a dominating effect in any gene pool
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Ruderalis is a recessive trait. If you cross it with a regular photoperiod plant you will get about 25% ruderalis and 75% photoperiod.


CC Dobbs said:
so you should always get auto flower from any seeds from this plant. Other than that the seeds will produce a mix of offspring absolutley inline with the genetic makeup of the parents. Shove the 'pros and cons' up your ass and start reading.
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Try decaf.
 
pSi007

pSi007

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Budget Buds said:
If the plant tastes like a blueberry and gets 2.7 feet tall and auto flowers, wouldnt the seeds do the exact same thing because there is no genetic diversity? Its pollen with the exact same genes. If not i just don't understand breeding and am just flat out tarted:0
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no.. not from my experience.. They will be slightly different. If you say nobody has the information you need, it is because it is not the information you want. I tried to tell you what I think will happen. I have done this many times in the past, feel free to keep asking the same questions but I was only trying to help you understand breeding 101. :) cheers!


the DNA of a plant is similar to a slight genetic dice, plants will adapt; environment, heat, water, stress, organic, microbes, nutrients, all play a roll in growth. I can grow cannabis which some people says is shit, and yet I can stick a pound of 20%+ thc flowers on it.. Taste and quality is due to good gardening skills AND good genetics.

Do an F1 hybrid of NL and Haze... Fem it.. find out... they will not be 100% matches.. you WILL get diversity, not a lot, less than the original F1s. Self FEM'ing is like doing a SUPER-IBL, fast and easy.
 
tekdc911

tekdc911

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its like breeding 2 similar plants
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if you keep feeding them a high N feed 3 weeks or so into flower then the fans dont die out and can support a longer flowering time
 
Budget Buds

Budget Buds

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CC Dobbs said:
Man it seems like you are asking people here to do your research for you. What is the benefit to anyone that takes the time to answers your questions? You've added on some questions since the original posting. You are confused in thinking that your plant has it's genes all figured out and there will be no genetic surprises if you self pollinate. Ruderalis genes seem to have a dominating effect in any gene pool so you should always get auto flower from any seeds from this plant. Other than that the seeds will produce a mix of offspring absolutley inline with the genetic makeup of the parents. Shove the 'pros and cons' up your ass and start reading.
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Its funny how you whine about taking time to answer but you have more then enough time to be a douche. Its hard to do any research on here when i have to root through tons of comments just like yours, RIU would be a better place without people like you's comments.

Trousers said:
There is a ton of misinformation regarding this subject, so asking a question here is perfectly cromulent.
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Thank You for the Information
pSi007 said:
no.. not from my experience.. They will be slightly different. If you say nobody has the information you need, it is because it is not the information you want. I tried to tell you what I think will happen. I have does this many times in the past, feel free to keep asking the same questions but I was only trying to help you understand breeding 101. :) cheers!


the DNA of a plant is similar to a slight genetic dice, plants will adapt; environment, heat, water, stress, organic, microbes, nutrients, all play a roll in growth. I can grow cannabis which some people says is shit, and yet I can stick a pound of 20%+ thc flowers on it.. Taste and quality is due to good gardening skills AND good genetics.

Do an F1 hybrid of NL and Haze... Fem it.. find out... they will not be 100% matches.. you WILL get diversity, not a lot, less than the original F1s. Self FEM'ing is like doing a SUPER-IBL, fast and easy.
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Your correct, Kinda, Its not entirely understood by me so I wanted it put into laymens terms. Thank You:)

tekdc911 said:
its like breeding 2 similar plants
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if you keep feeding them a high N feed 3 weeks or so into flower then the fans dont die out and can support a longer flowering time
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That may make it possible to make it sucessful , Thanks As always tek:)
 
tekdc911

tekdc911

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gotta remember that your feeding for seed production not resin production
a all purpose feed is needed
 
pSi007

pSi007

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tekdc911 said:
gotta remember that your feeding for seed production not resin production
a all purpose feed is needed
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ya.. seeds also really fug-up the taste of a plant - even picked out (naturally).. ha ha... Did you guys know that many people in the southern states who smoke commercial and brick weed will roll the seeds along with the refer and smoke it? WTF!!

..If I produce seeds which created plants which I don't favor, I eat them.. Sauteed, spiced, and roasted... yummy...

Remember not to harvest your seeded plant until the seeded sacks start to turn an opened brown color, exposing the seed..
 
Budget Buds

Budget Buds

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Yeah nothing I hear about the south surprises me, "If her brother aint got dibbs on her... How do you circumcise a redneck. Kick his sister in the chin..,
 
tekdc911

tekdc911

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pSi007 said:
ya.. seeds also really fug-up the taste of a plant - even picked out (naturally).. ha ha... Did you guys know that many people in the southern states who smoke commercial and brick weed will roll the seeds along with the refer and smoke it? WTF!!

..If I produce seeds which created plants which I don't favor, I eat them.. Sauteed, spiced, and roasted... yummy...

Remember not to harvest your seeded plant until the seeded sacks start to turn an opened brown color, exposing the seed..
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ya there is no way to pick out a seed that has been compressed to paper thin status
just roll that shit up in a blunt
 
pSi007

pSi007

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As kids in Los Angeles, my buddies and I would always get the cheap brick-weed and we ALWAYS picked the stems and seeds out.. it took a while.. I remember visiting my family in the South and they were amazed at how meticulous I was at destroying the "waste" material. hahaha..
I guess in a place where you can get 10 years for a joint, it reminds me of Cheech and Chong, "Man, just eat the shit - get rid of it!!". 8)

Anyway, I have NEVER thought about growing an Auto strain but this season in NorCal is fucking going to shit...... Too cold, Too rainy, Nor-Cal is having problems right now guys.. Our ripening phase is being destroyed by mother nature.. Back up to $200 ounces this year. :(
 
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GreyLord

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$200 ounces? Lifes tough huh? Here in the merry land of Oz it's $300 an ounce & can climb to $350 & at times questionable quality.

Smoking seed is not good, I was just reminded how it spoils the taste. I didn't see that a bud had 3 seeds & chopped one into my mull. That's how I found the other two :)

Seeds of a self pollinated plant are ok to grow, yes? Is there an easy way to find seed when they are few & far between hidden in your buds?
 
tekdc911

tekdc911

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GreyLord said:
$200 ounces? Lifes tough huh? Here in the merry land of Oz it's $300 an ounce & can climb to $350 & at times questionable quality.

Smoking seed is not good, I was just reminded how it spoils the taste. I didn't see that a bud had 3 seeds & chopped one into my mull. That's how I found the other two :)

Seeds of a self pollinated plant are ok to grow, yes? Is there an easy way to find seed when they are few & far between hidden in your buds?
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gets up to $450 a oz where im at

brick weed now is a totally different critter now a days the seeds have no moisture in them

if someone didnt tell you they were being smoked you wouldnt know the brick weed is just that bad now

yes good to grow
the seeds will poke out you just have to look really close its like playing wheres waldo
 
Galvatron

Galvatron

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To reverse a female and try to self pollinate the same plant takes perfect timing it's harder than it sounds. With normal photo plants it's best to reverse a clone and pollinate another clone, with autos your best bet is to reverse one and pollinate a sister if you want fem seeds. The reversal process is different than if a plant herms and pollinated itself, theres a time lag in the reversal process that you have to factor in to your plans.
 
pSi007

pSi007

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$450 per zip? Must be Texas or Florida? anyway, if you live in NorCal and pay more than $200 per zip, something is wrong with you. ;) I know many people who are pulling shit now, 3 weeks pre-mature, $200 is very high prices for here.. Typical rate for NorCal ganja is about $1,500 per pound, less than $100 per ounce. People try and say that this is not for top quality, rather mids.. Seriously, what kind of idiot will tell me NorCal only grows mids.. hahahaha......

everyone and their grandmothers grow it, if the DEA wants to shut it down, everyone will laugh them out of town if they try to bust personal growers.

:mrgreen:


btw, I`m off to get a couple of Purple Gorilla clones today, I`ll be using the STS method and the lovely FEMs that she produces.
 
GreenSanta

GreenSanta

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pSi007 said:
$450 per zip? Must be Texas or Florida? anyway, if you live in NorCal and pay more than $200 per zip, something is wrong with you. ;) I know many people who are pulling shit now, 3 weeks pre-mature, $200 is very high prices for here.. Typical rate for NorCal ganja is about $1,500 per pound, less than $100 per ounce. People try and say that this is not for top quality, rather mids.. Seriously, what kind of idiot will tell me NorCal only grows mids.. hahahaha......

everyone and their grandmothers grow it, if the DEA wants to shut it down, everyone will laugh them out of town if they try to bust personal growers.

:mrgreen:


btw, I`m off to get a couple of Purple Gorilla clones today, I`ll be using the STS method and the lovely FEMs that she produces.
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I see the same happening around here ... people chop early ... and sell for 1500-2000 ... 2000 if u are lucky. Lots of mids around here ... lots of super highgrade for super cheap too...hit and miss.
 
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GreyLord

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pSi007 said:
$450 per zip? Must be Texas or Florida? anyway, if you live in NorCal and pay more than $200 per zip, something is wrong with you. ;) I know many people who are pulling shit now, 3 weeks pre-mature, $200 is very high prices for here.. Typical rate for NorCal ganja is about $1,500 per pound, less than $100 per ounce. People try and say that this is not for top quality, rather mids.. Seriously, what kind of idiot will tell me NorCal only grows mids.. hahahaha......

everyone and their grandmothers grow it, if the DEA wants to shut it down, everyone will laugh them out of town if they try to bust personal growers.

:mrgreen:


btw, I`m off to get a couple of Purple Gorilla clones today, I`ll be using the STS method and the lovely FEMs that she produces.
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I hope that you guys who can grow legally never forget how fortunate you all are. Yes I know it should be our god-given right to grow but growing legal seems so far down the road....

I wonder if your 'mids' are similar to many peoples 'top grade'. To get the really good stuff here one must pay a premium, $350-$400 an oz, & be 'in the know' to be offered any in the 1st place. It's all relative. You obviously live where there's a healthy growing community ever improving strains. So I suspect that smokers from your neck of the woods have a higher expectation , quality wise, than those from mine :)

btw, Purple Gorilla clones? So do I get this right, you can just go to your local head shop & get the latest range of 'you beaut' clones? Man...I can't even imagine.
 
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