Is a generator or battery grow at all possible for good sized indoor grow?? 19 plants

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moreindoorporfavor

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I have commercial space that i can completely sound proof and scent proof but electricity use is kind of an issue as landlord has expectations on how much is average useage and im trying to avoid red flags...I am interested in knowing if anyone has heard of an indoor grow option other than electric to power two 1000watt LED lights...Tha'ts for each phase of light cycles...36 hours a day...Money is not an issue as I have a lot of overhead saved for this endeavor and Id much more prefer to spend more upfront with energy cost and stay under radar than go standard electrical route and blow my cover....As much as I have searched though I have not thus far found a relatively simple method of doing this.,If anyone is aware of energy equipment that could enable this alternative method please do let me know!
Any advise is much appreciated..
 
CookieKush

CookieKush

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Use LEDs over HPS will save you a ton from the get go. How about make it more like you run computers / servers or something which is power hungry to make the excuse of the extra 'consumption' look more legitimate?

But dont try any other way, you'll end up screwed.
 
GreenHighlander

GreenHighlander

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No!! no matter how many times you ask or answers you delete. WTF kind of commercial space does someone have to be worried about their power usage?
Know how many people have had warrants issued for power consumption? None. Now someone saying you are growing combined with power consumption is a different story.
From the sounds of it you have a big space with a super nosy landlord which means it is no good for growing no matter where your power comes from.
I suggest moving on and finding a suitable space because the space you are talking about is not.
Cheers :)
 
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havent deleted any answers...Its the fact that this dude includes utilities with his rent which is why the whole things anonymous...no rge bills no real names attached...so he watches utility useage...Im thinking we could trogan horse him worst case...Throw up a photography studio with lights make sure we use the equivalent amount and then after the initial surprise/investigation we swap over once hes expecting that amount of use...was just seeing if there was an alternative to me wasting a month of time and just doing the op without triggering that period
 
GreenHighlander

GreenHighlander

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moreindoorporfavor said:
havent deleted any answers...Its the fact that this dude includes utilities with his rent which is why the whole things anonymous...no rge bills no real names attached...so he watches utility useage...Im thinking we could trogan horse him worst case...Throw up a photography studio with lights make sure we use the equivalent amount and then after the initial surprise/investigation we swap over once hes expecting that amount of use...was just seeing if there was an alternative to me wasting a month of time and just doing the op without triggering that period
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I get it now I have seen this post in more then one thread now lol
Honestly though I would highly suggest you not using the space you mentioned.
You can Trojan horse him all you want. On a large scale you are fucked if the landlord asks to see the place. Especially when you have no good reason to not allow them access to your photo studio.
I wouldn't fuck with the situation you are describing even with the legal license I hold.
Cheers :)
 
projectinfo

projectinfo

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Man it doesn't matter how sneaky you try to be.... It's going to be pretty obvious.


It's a long stressful journey to get setup... You really wanna Trojan horse a landlord on top of everything?
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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moreindoorporfavor said:
havent deleted any answers...Its the fact that this dude includes utilities with his rent which is why the whole things anonymous...no rge bills no real names attached...so he watches utility useage...Im thinking we could trogan horse him worst case...Throw up a photography studio with lights make sure we use the equivalent amount and then after the initial surprise/investigation we swap over once hes expecting that amount of use...was just seeing if there was an alternative to me wasting a month of time and just doing the op without triggering that period
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if he bitches, offer to pay the difference between what he expects monthly and what the actual bill is...as long as it doesn't drive it out of your price range.
really 2 1k lights aren't going to use that much power, compared to a business of some kind, with lighting, computers, possible power tools, etc
you would be much better off finding a space with no nosy landlord, and the power in your name....especially if you can find another commercial property
 
rkymtnman

rkymtnman

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get one of those honda inverter gennies. they are nearly silent but pricey.

dont' you think the landlord will notice you lugging in a bunch of 5 gal containers of gas?
 
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moreindoorporfavor

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GreenHighlander said:
I get it now I have seen this post in more then one thread now lol
Honestly though I would highly suggest you not using the space you mentioned.
You can Trojan horse him all you want. On a large scale you are fucked if the landlord asks to see the place. Especially when you have no good reason to not allow them access to your photo studio.
I wouldn't fuck with the situation you are describing even with the legal license I hold.
Cheers :)
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That was the whole concept behind the trojan horse: When he asks to see the place we have a valid reason for the high utility bill (the photo studio) which we show him then and there (literally plan on making a real photo studio with light equivalent of the useage here) Then he knows what to expect for utilities and the bill is adjusted accordingly and he has an explanation for it so when the following months come and bills are pretty much the same he has an idea of why and doesnt demand to look again....That was my worst case plan but I would prefer obviously to just go a route that doesnt require that kind of energy and not deal with more time and money for any trojan horse at all...But its not sounding like there is a method for that. Still thinkin this over..I appreciate the advice
 
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moreindoorporfavor

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rkymtnman said:
get one of those honda inverter gennies. they are nearly silent but pricey.

dont' you think the landlord will notice you lugging in a bunch of 5 gal containers of gas?
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I have 24 hour access...
I can work in the night
Wouldnt those require a fair amount of ventilation?? Thats the problem I dont think thats possible in this space...I was thinking something more battery operated...but shits sounding less and less realistic the more research im doin
 
rkymtnman

rkymtnman

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moreindoorporfavor said:
I have 24 hour access...
I can work in the night
Wouldnt those require a fair amount of ventilation?? Thats the problem I dont think thats possible in this space...I was thinking something more battery operated...but shits sounding less and less realistic the more research im doin
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for batteries, get 2 of those 24 or 36 volt forklift batteries and a charger. use one while other charges.

then find some cobs or leds in that voltage and run it that way.
 
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I also dont think this guy is particularly nosy i just think he has a particular useage amount in his head and will be curious after that is far surpassed as to whats goin on...I think as long as that curiosity is resolved he will adjust his bill and mind his business again...So i would hope should we go that route
 
torontoke

torontoke

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moreindoorporfavor said:
I have commercial space that i can completely sound proof and scent proof but electricity use is kind of an issue as landlord has expectations on how much is average useage and im trying to avoid red flags...I am interested in knowing if anyone has heard of an indoor grow option other than electric to power two 1000watt LED lights...Tha'ts for each phase of light cycles...36 hours a day...Money is not an issue as I have a lot of overhead saved for this endeavor and Id much more prefer to spend more upfront with energy cost and stay under radar than go standard electrical route and blow my cover....As much as I have searched though I have not thus far found a relatively simple method of doing this.,If anyone is aware of energy equipment that could enable this alternative method please do let me know!
Any advise is much appreciated..
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If you have so much over head saved that money is not an object for start up why not put that money down on your own place and not skirt around someone else’s property?
Depending on where u are surely the cost of a legit off grid grow would be more then the down payment on your own house?
 
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torontoke said:
If you have so much over head saved that money is not an object for start up why not put that money down on your own place and not skirt around someone else’s property?
Depending on where u are surely the cost of a legit off grid grow would be more then the down payment on your own house?
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Finding that can be tricky..Im in ny not a lot of land around these parts...however i do have plenty to work with overhead wise if you have creative ideas im all ears...ive basically secured this spot by making two months payment upfront but it doesnt have to happen hertede..i could opt out not too invested..Just seems like a good place to get it goin considering its location and its totally anonymous...theres no real names attached if for some reason something were to go awry
 
stoned-monkey

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2000 watts and you need commerical? Is it a storage unit? Thats like 5x10 room worth of light. Genarator in a building is horribe idea, it could literally kill you. If you charge batteries with the building electricay you will use more power then just straight running the lights. This landlord allows no name people to rent, he is shady as f**k, cut him in and problem solved.
Or
What i would do is buy a small house or plot of land with a pole barn out in a rural place.
 
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stoned-monkey said:
2000 watts and you need commerical? Is it a storage unit? Thats like 5x10 room worth of light. Genarator in a building is horribe idea, it could literally kill you. If you charge batteries with the building electricay you will use more power then just straight running the lights. This landlord allows no name people to rent, he is shady as f**k, cut him in and problem solved.
Or
What i would do is buy a small house or plot of land with a pole barn out in a rural place.
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hes not aware no name names were given...No real ones lol
As for the batteries...no i planned on charging them elsewhere and returning to site maybe occasionally there but thatd defeat the purpose i agree
 
SPLFreak808

SPLFreak808

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make a lithium bank, charge with solar/alternator/generator. It will not be cheap, i use 4 xs power 15k's and it almost gave me a heart attack upon payment for fucking batteries.
 
stoned-monkey

stoned-monkey

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I dont know what kind of commerical space you have but 1 hp electric motor equals 745 watts. Its nothing for a shop fan to have 1/2 hp or larger motor. Drill presses often have 1hp motors. All i am getting at is if youre not running anything else but the two lights and other grow stuff its not an unreasonable power draw. He may expect more then you think.
 
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