Is anyone talking about steam distillation? or oil fractitioning? let's talk stills

thump easy

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I do not extract at all. I only refine what I obtain. I would see steam distillation not so much for fractioning cannabinoids but rather for those who wish less exposure to pinene present in extraction. This indeed is very efficient at doing that. A health benefit to one person could mean serious complications to another. I have been sensitized to some terpenes and if I do not remove them then the medicine is largley unusable by me. I do not entertain any notion about doing this for a business. Too much cloak and dagger and a bunch of top secret extraction agents all running around with their own million dollar secret and talking in inuendo if you ask me.

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hyroot

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lol.funny but inaccurate.:bigjoint:
Not really. Solventless thca is whats popular now. Its really easy to make.

Just repress buddered rosin in a 25u screen below 130°. When it separates, whats left in the screen is the thca. The rest that gets squished through the screen is solventless sauce.
 

natureboygrower

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Not really. Solventless thca is whats popular now. Its really easy to make.

Just repress buddered rosin in a 25u screen below 130°. When it separates, whats left in the screen is the thca. The rest that gets squished through the screen is solventless sauce.
sounds awesome.ive never tried rosin but ive heard the flavors are amazing.bho use to be popular too.what kind of yields are to be expected from pressing an oz of flower into rosin?
 

hyroot

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sounds awesome.ive never tried rosin but ive heard the flavors are amazing.bho use to be popular too.what kind of yields are to be expected from pressing an oz of flower into rosin?
It depends on the strain and the grower. Anywhere from 5% to 25% returns pressing flower. Then pressing bubble or sift any where from 30% - 80% returns. The frostier the better. The larger the trichome heads the better.
 

natureboygrower

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It depends on the strain and the grower. Anywhere from 5% to 25% returns pressing flower. Then pressing bubble or sift any where from 30% - 80% returns. The frostier the better. The larger the trichome heads the better.
i think most of us who use glassware will continue to use it whether its a fad or not(i dont believe it is a fad)or if something easier comes along.i can run trim/sugar leaves and and get a decent return,however i tend to use buds.its more time consuming thats for sure,but its really turned into something more than just a way to make extracts/oil to me.ive enjoyed the challenge of learning about organic chemistry and for me,its not about the easiest route.i can apply this new knowledge to a whole lot of other things(i would like to learn more about extracting terps).i use etoh and have absolutely zero worries about ingesting any residual when i make my edibles where i would never feel comfortable doing that with bho.i have nothing against rosin,like i said,it looks and sounds killer.different strokes for different folks,as the saying goes.
 

dabbindylan

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Chemistry is the way too go. Cave men squish.... In a extract of rosin chips the trash of making rosin i obtained a 10.6% return from total plant matter mass. It was also pristine with a loss of .8% after winter and filtering....oggabogga i hit bud with club make hash *squish* lol
 

SweetLief

New Member
Google TerpMagic to find a line of steam stills for this application. It seems like people are just catching onto the benefits of steam distillation in this medical industry.

Steam distillation is good for extracting the essential oils of the cannabis plant, but it does not extract the resins THC, CBD, etc. You would need to run a second process to extract the resins with any of the various ways: ethanol, butane, CO2, etc.

The benefit of doing a steam distillation process first is that if you don't separate out the volatile terpenes before you extract, then when you do your solvent purge, you can loose terpenes in that evaporation. This can be undesireable because all that's left are the heavier, low-note terpenes so to speak. Instead, by using steam distillation, you pull the aromatic essential oils out first, you can re-add your terpenes to your finished product after you're finished purging it.

The spectrum of terpenoid compounds that come through in the steam process is like the finger-print of that plant. While you CAN make terpene reformulations using terpenes from other plants, to me that seems like artificial flavoring compared to organic. Instead of the broad range of terpenes that come through with steam, you're getting the 10 or 12 most potent terpenes blended in a 'tastes-like' formula. It's like a mariachi band versus a symphony. You can still tell it's a song, but it doesn't have the same depth of experience.

I think the entourage effect of terpenes on endocannabinoid receptors to modulate the effects of THC and CBD is going to be an exciting place in the future science of this industry.

Basically, as I understand it, steam distillation is an easy step to add to almost any existing extraction process. And yes; you do want to dry your material before your next process.
 
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