Is the ViparSpectra Reflector-Series 300W LED Decent?

Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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REALSTYLES said:
I'm not here to swing dick none the least. I used to run burple lights so I do know what I'm talking about no dick swining here

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You can see which one is better 1 400w dyi light vs a Mars II 1200 and 1600 @Olive Drab Green you should try a cob light you love it and you think differently about the light you are using now.
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COBs are definitely the way, man. No standard LED can compete. That comes next. Gonna order one for a single plant grow next month and take my Vipar to my collective's spot.

I stated this earlier, that COBs were best power and efficiency.
 
Walterwhiter

Walterwhiter

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Olive Drab Green said:
ViparSpectra isn't a bad company. Mars is worse in quality than ViparSpectra, and nearly anyone here will tell you that, yet you back them and cite their flaunting your money in your face as a reason to buy from them. That's pretty ridiculous, man.
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From what I read the quality is questionable and if anything goes wrong you have to fix but I guess if you are a diy guy that could be good
 
frica

frica

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Olive Drab Green said:
COBs are definitely the way, man. No standard LED can compete. That comes next. Gonna order one for a single plant grow next month and take my Vipar to my collective's spot.

I stated this earlier, that COBs were best power and efficiency.
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Cree/Nichia/Osram high power SMDs can.
For big companies SMDs is still the easier thing because you can reflow solder and mass produce lights, COBs are easier for DIY but SMDs are easier on a very large scale.

But the technique between (white) SMDs and COBs are roughly the same just different packaging
 
JorgeGonzales

JorgeGonzales

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Olive Drab Green said:
ViparSpectra isn't a bad company. Mars is worse in quality than ViparSpectra, and nearly anyone here will tell you that, yet you back them and cite their flaunting your money in your face as a reason to buy from them. That's pretty ridiculous, man.
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Honestly, I don't want to argue, but their Amazon copy is deceptive, at best. They name it a 300W light (it isn't), say it replaces a 250W HPS (it doesn't).

It's not fun tearing onto a light somebody bought and is growing happily with, but at the end of the day if somebody actually tries to replace a 250W HPS with this they are going to be disappointed. The numbers just don't work in the universe we live in. A light growing weed is only proof that a light can grow weed, but no guarantee that it isn't an overpriced, hot and inefficient way to do it. A lot of people using Mars Hydro and friends seem to miss that point.
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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JorgeGonzales said:
Honestly, I don't want to argue, but their Amazon copy is deceptive, at best. They name it a 300W light (it isn't), say it replaces a 250W HPS (it doesn't).

It's not fun tearing onto a light somebody bought and is growing happily with, but at the end of the day if somebody actually tries to replace a 250W HPS with this they are going to be disappointed. The numbers just don't work in the universe we live in. A light growing weed is only proof that a light can grow weed, but no guarantee that it isn't an overpriced, hot and inefficient way to do it. A lot of people using Mars Hydro and friends seem to miss that point.
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Guaranteed, it can and does.

A light is only a piece of it all, anyway. But it does work as stated.

And furthermore, this is all coming from a guy who talks shit on ViparSpectra while singing the praises of MarsHydro. Case closed, you have no clue what you're talking about. Hope the Mars employees throw more parties with your money and record it for you to see instead of improving their products like they should.
 
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JacksonJ

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ruwtz said:
Wow, coming on strong dude. Nothing smug about us defending a purchase - its only a choice we make to get where we want to go.

And yeah, i know, i've seen those websites you talk about. Did you ever think that maybe someone is getting paid to advertise?? Really not a far fetched idea. Follow your nose to find the bulls*t.
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Thats just what you would expect from guys like this. If they're getting good reviews, and we don't like it, they're obviously getting paid to review those products good. In comment sections like this, it's easy to filter out people that are over the top know it alls.
 
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JacksonJ

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TacoMac said:
That's odd. Very odd. Because on just about ever single website related to lighting for Marijuana, the ViparSectra brand is in the top 10 recommended lights.

Odd how you two know something that nobody else in the entire marijuana community seems to know...and at the very same time say the LED industry is completely bogus while running LED lights.

Frankly, the two of you smack of, "Since I bought it mine is best". Grow up.
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Now if you want and honest review, i'll give one. You've probably made your move already being that this thread is a little old. But for someone else looking, this may help.
I bought one of the viparspectra 300w LEDs for my first grown. It worked well enough. I got about 4oz off of each plant I grew with it. 4oz seems about average for 300w. It could be better if I had something stronger i'm sure, but for a budget friendly 300w led light, that i have proof works well, you would do well. Ignore what those others "professional commenters" have to say. If you're looking for something good, for yourself, you'll be happy. If you like to grow for yourself, and to give some to friends, i'd go 600w LED.IMG_1567.JPGIMG_1566.JPGIMG_1565.JPG
 
frica

frica

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JacksonJ said:
Now if you want and honest review, i'll give one. You've probably made your move already being that this thread is a little old. But for someone else looking, this may help.
I bought one of the viparspectra 300w LEDs for my first grown. It worked well enough. I got about 4oz off of each plant I grew with it. 4oz seems about average for 300w. It could be better if I had something stronger i'm sure, but for a budget friendly 300w led light, that i have proof works well, you would do well. Ignore what those others "professional commenters" have to say. If you're looking for something good, for yourself, you'll be happy. If you like to grow for yourself, and to give some to friends, i'd go 600w LED.
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And generic LED bulbs can pull 1g/w easy, for less money.

 
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Tim Brittain

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Olive Drab Green said:
ViparSpectra isn't a bad company. Mars is worse in quality than ViparSpectra, and nearly anyone here will tell you that, yet you back them and cite their flaunting your money in your face as a reason to buy from them. That's pretty ridiculous, man.
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You say that but I k s who has had fukin unbeliefable results in a 80 by 80 tent and 2 marrs hydro reflector 48 cost fuck all in electric 15 ounce dry cured
 
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JacksonJ

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nxsov180db said:
I guarantee it does not. A cheap 136 watt blurple will not come close to nearly double the wattage of HPS. Cheap blurples are actually neck and neck with the efficiency of HPS. My low powered COB's aren't even double the efficiency of HPS. You mean to tell me 544 watts of this blurple compares to a 1000w hps? Fuck no it doesn't. COB led doesn't even do that. You need to be in the neighborhood of 700 watts COB to compare to 1000w hps..
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Maybe you could try a little harder to sound cool by throwing the word blurple around more.
 
nfhiggs

nfhiggs

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JorgeGonzales said:
I don't usually say this, but google is your friend, as is this site.

I will even lead this horse to water, with minimal confusing concepts. Ready? They claim to replace a 250W HPS, so we will start there.

Question one: How many lumens does a 250W HPS make? That's your first question to answer for yourself. Try google. The second question is: how many lumens/watt is that? Hint, divide the lumens by 250.

Get back to me and we'll move on to step two.
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Let me tell you what's wrong with question 1. You're apparently trying to compare lumen output. "Lumens" are a measure of WHITE LIGHT intensity and is normalized based on the response curve of the human eye - which makes it heavily biased at 550nm (green light). It does not translate over in any meaningful way to blue/red monochrome light. For plants, you need to compare at the PAR output in uMoles, which is an actual photon count, independent of any frequency response curve. That's an apples to apples comparison. You're trying to compare apples to horseshoes.

Now, having said that, lets look at your other claim that basically, "its all lies". A standard 250W HPS bulb is rated for 27,000 lumens. That's 108 lumens per watt, not counting driver losses (actual wall consumption is closer to 290W typically). Samsung's LM531C white light diodes are rated for 168 Lumens per watt in 3000K color temp. Their 4 ft F-series strips at 3000K put out ~8700 lumens at 51.5 watts. Three strips (154.5W) will equal the lumen output of a 250W HPS. That is an apples to apples comparison.

Edit: This is not meant to imply I think that particular light will equal a 250W HPS, but there are LEDs that do so for less power
 
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Tim Brittain

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nfhiggs said:
Let me tell you what's wrong with question 1. You're apparently trying to compare lumen output. "Lumens" are a measure of WHITE LIGHT intensity and is normalized based on the response curve of the human eye - which makes it heavily biased at 550nm (green light). It does not translate over in any meaningful way to blue/red monochrome light. For plants, you need to compare at the PAR output in uMoles, which is an actual photon count, independent of any frequency response curve. That's an apples to apples comparison. You're trying to compare apples to horseshoes.

Now, having said that, lets look at your other claim that basically, "its all lies". A standard 250W HPS bulb is rated for 27,000 lumens. That's 108 lumens per watt, not counting driver losses (actual wall consumption is closer to 290W typically). Samsung's LM531C white light diodes are rated for 168 Lumens per watt in 3000K color temp. Their 4 ft F-series strips at 3000K put out ~8700 lumens at 51.5 watts. Three strips (154.5W) will equal the lumen output of a 250W HPS. That is an apples to apples comparison.
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The dude saying white is better than full spectrum you sir are an idiot lol
 
Enigma

Enigma

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I spent $200 on Veros.

They should put perform 400W actual draw of blurple at 140W.

Do in need to say more?
 
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