~journal~ jumboSWISHER's hoping for a JUMBO yeild

jumboSWISHER

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whats up everybody!
first off,feel totally free to post away. info,pics,converstaiton, whatever, just keep it respectful =]
iv been on RIU for a while now, close to a year. started my first grow here :clap:

well iv decided to to go to my legal limit of 15 plants. have 5 flowering at the moment, one mother plant, and just took 9 clones on the first.
im starting this journal to keep track of all these gorgous ladies haha

so first off, let me tell you about my setup :-P
i use black gold soil
FFgrow big, FFbig bloom, molasses,
and iv come to realize this strain im going to stick with( hybrid of super silver haze) likes a good dose of used coffee grounds when switching to 12/12.
2x 150w hps in the vegg room ( only one up untill clones root within the week) 8 inch ocelating fan, in a 2 ft wide, 6 ft long, 3.5 ft tall cubboard.
flowering room is my basement, have a 12,12 ft area thats 7.5 ft tall for growing. 1x 1000w hps, 12 inch ocelating fan.

my setup is pretty ghetto, not looking to make a million $$$. just want enough personal smoke to keep me, and my family happy =] haha


sooo NOW... the pics:clap: haha




the flowering room
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5th week 12/12 ( LST,multi rooting sites, topped, supercropped)
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the strain im goona stick with :clap: 7 or 8th week 12/12
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clones from her
4th week 12/12
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15th day 12/12

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mother plant and clones

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ill be updating this quite a bit, im the hermit crab type so RIU is a daily routine for me lol and again feel totaly free to post whatever you like! :leaf::leaf:
peace out!
 

jumboSWISHER

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oh yea, in pics of flowering room, you can see a door on the wall just floating there haha thats the cubboard i made for FREE to use as a vegg room
 

jumboSWISHER

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How to mrs a plant

OK guys just in case you are new or have absolutely no clue what im talking about im gonna toss this one out there for the people in the cheap seats...

you keep hearing me and JumboSwisher talking about MRSing a plant and how it increases yield.. here is the basics...the only catch is you have to know how to clone a little (don't really have to be good at it really) and you have to have the guts to cut up your plant (not really cut it up but you will get the gist shortly)

MRS stands for Multiple Rooting Sites

you will be basically creating a entirely stand alone rooting structure and feeding system for your plant which will supplement the plant in such a way as to allow it to constantly run with its nutrient uptake going full throttle 24/7 (this will also help with the metabolizing of micro nutes and allow more of them to enter the system also just by design)

all you have to do is break out your rooting hormone and your scissors and pick a bottom branch that is nice and fat and low hanging ... something that would normally make a killer clone

now we are going to sacrifice this future monster clone for the sake of the plant..

you take this branch and instead of clipping a few nodes back and then using it to clone ...you cut off the end of it creating the same 45 degree angle you would normally make on a clone and scar it the same as a clone also... just like its the end of a clone getting ready to put it in your clone box or growing medium

you will now have a branch with a clone end sticking out where the bud site would normally be...
now the same as cloning you need to wet it and dip it in rooting hormone ( powder .. gel ... whatever)
and you will want to take this butchered branch and put it at least a inch into the soil below the plant bending it down into the dirt and making sure it wont pop back out again

what you have just done was make a alternate rooting site for the plant and as soon as it takes hold in about a week or 10 days you will see a sudden burst of vigor out of your plant and you will want to cut your nutes back to half strength

this is the only drawback and one of the major money savers for the high priced nutrient buying crowd out there...

with twice the rooting zone now occupying the pot it is utilizing more of the soil mass and also pulling out locked out nutrients the original root structure couldn't hope of getting so it will fill the plants gas tanks up pretty quickly and will also utilize the new incoming nutrients on a much more efficient scale which makes for less nutes left in the soil ... less nutes needed to maintain the plant at peek... and a plant that is getting just as much as it can handle on a full time basis increasing yield to huge potential...

all i can say is try it ... buy all means prove me wrong if you can... i have been using this technique for about 2 years now since i thought it up in a stoned stupor one night while taking clones and it has not failed me yet :smile:

Peace ... Out !! bongsmilie





this is a post AM I NORML made in the *official ghetto growers group* i used this method on the LSTed plant. it works wonders people =] im goint to do this with atleast 7 of the clones in the next few weeks.
 

jumboSWISHER

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well i just harvested my big SSH plant :clap:
this girls first 4 weeks of flowering was under CFLs so im pretty proud of what i got :leaf: :leaf:
 

nlblue

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excellent post. gotta bookmark it for reference, though I think I got it down to memory. Couple questions on it though. Did you put the rooting hormone on it once only - then dip it in the soil?? or did you wet it and put some plastic wrap around it to keep it moist for awhile first and then dip it in the soil? or what? Also: What strain is the very round looking plant in the 10th photo (92kb)?
 

jumboSWISHER

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nice ta see sumone checked it out =] lol
i dipped it in rooting hormone once, and put in soil emediatly. then just watered the plant normally. i tied the branch(2nd root site) to the main stem to make sure it wouldnt pop back out of the soil. i tried this on another plant and the stem popped out in the middle of the night and screwed it all up haha
and the plant in that picture is the same strain as in pics 5-8.my friend bred this strain from SSH, im not sure with what. i mentioned earlier i noticed this strain likes a good does of used coffee grounds (N) in the beggining of flowering. it takes 2-3 waters for the N to break down in the soil so its just Nitrogen deprived in the pic.
 

nlblue

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I was thinking about the possibilities with this method. What do you think of this? Put a branch in a completely different container and let it root. once it takes hold and gets good growth, cut the branch close to the mother plant and wa-la you have two plants. no seperate cloning cuts needed.
 

jumboSWISHER

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damn, yea in theory that wud work =]
cutting the main stem might stress both plants pretty bad tho?
i was thinking, what if you could work 4 or 5 stems into seperate containers and let it vegg untill all 5 pots have good root mass. you could grow a GINORMOUS plant!!! hahahaha
not very practical, but it would b an awesome experiment
 

D.tea

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I'm really curious about all this separate root site stuff. Definitely going to do a comparison grow next time. How young could this be done?
 

jumboSWISHER

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nice ta see ya D.Tea lol
yea im seriously debating weather i should keep 2 or 3 clones in soil to do a comparison grow. im going to keep atleast 1 forrsure to make sure i atleast have something to clone from if i kill the plants in hydro.. lol
but it can be done as soon as the plant has long enough internodes to get em in the soil. probly week 3ish if its a real bushy plant.
 

D.tea

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Yum! My CFL makes nice little bushes, at least has my first time :) I'm def going to try this, but ghetto and without the root hormones
 

prebs

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this is great jumbo, definitely marking this down and Im gonna have to try that mrs thing with those results.. thanks man
 

D.tea

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Yes, the MRS thing is an absolute must try.

Perhaps my next grow, I'll reference you for the idea? Is it your idea! Are there links and science and such behind this?! I'm sooooo curious!
 

jumboSWISHER

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this is great jumbo, definitely marking this down and Im gonna have to try that mrs thing with those results.. thanks man
hell yea man!!
Yes, the MRS thing is an absolute must try.

Perhaps my next grow, I'll reference you for the idea? Is it your idea! Are there links and science and such behind this?! I'm sooooo curious!
well the idea is all AM I NORML's. gotta give him all the credit for this. i was just the one person that tried it i guess lol
im not sure how much research has been done on this method, the deepest into detail i know is the post AM I NORML made in the ghetto growers thread. i know for a fact that the plant uses nutes WAY more efficiently. i burnt my plant up in veg pretty bad because i did not know this. and had some lockout problems during flowering. but kinda figured it out on my own as i went lol
im not sure how much AM I NORML knows about this either, but he has been doing it for 2 years with great results. a few people on here trying it and comparing results/problmes/advice, i think could make MRS VERY popular.
 

jumboSWISHER

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soo.. THE CLONES ARE IN HYDRO!!! :hump:
the system went together pretty easily. and only cost about $80 :mrgreen:
the clones had WAYYYY more roots then i thought. there doing good tho. dont seem to have taken much stress from pulling all the soil from them. im running nutes at 1/4th strength, and PH is at 6.1 as of 5 mins ago lol
man it feels good! cant even explain how excited i am to see the next few weeks :twisted:
 
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