Just passed in the Senate

ktwister

Member
1/15/2009--Introduced.Saving Kids from Dangerous Drugs Act of 2009 - Amends the Controlled Substances Act to make it unlawful for any adult (at least 18 years of age) to knowingly and intentionally manufacture, create, distribute, or dispense, or to possess with such intent, a Schedule I or II controlled substance that is:
(1) combined with a candy product;
(2) marketed or packaged to appear similar to a candy product; or
(3) modified by flavoring or coloring with the intent to distribute, dispense, or sell it to a person under 21 years of age. Imposes enhanced criminal penalties for violations. Exempts any controlled substance that has been approved by the Secretary of Health and Human Services under the drug approval process or that has been altered at the direction of a medical practitioner for a legitimate medical purpose.


PASSED in the Senate on 7/29/10. :evil:

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-s258/show

If this bill is passed entirely, it includes ALL states within the U.S.
Thought it would all be shut down through the states federalizing ALL health care, but maybe THE PROGRAM will get an early retirement through some other kind of subterfuge. Be Aware.
 

Serapis

Well-Known Member
Is anyone here manufacturing schedule 1 drugs for kids or making it look like candy?

#3 covers the cookies and candies made and sold by medical dispensaries, so what is the problem with this law?
 

ozzrokk

Well-Known Member
Is anyone here manufacturing schedule 1 drugs for kids or making it look like candy?

#3 covers the cookies and candies made and sold by medical dispensaries, so what is the problem with this law?
The candy yes... The cookies and brownies etc I would have to say no cause it says
modified by flavoring or coloring with the intent to distribute, dispense, or sell it to a person under 21 years of age...... If intended to be dist. to person UNDER 21 Medicine in a shop of medicine is meant for those 21 and over
 

rzza

Well-Known Member
1/15/2009--Introduced.Saving Kids from Dangerous Drugs Act of 2009 - Amends the Controlled Substances Act to make it unlawful for any adult (at least 18 years of age) to knowingly and intentionally manufacture, create, distribute, or dispense, or to possess with such intent, a Schedule I or II controlled substance that is:
(1) combined with a candy product;
(2) marketed or packaged to appear similar to a candy product; or
(3) modified by flavoring or coloring with the intent to distribute, dispense, or sell it to a person under 21 years of age. Imposes enhanced criminal penalties for violations. Exempts any controlled substance that has been approved by the Secretary of Health and Human Services under the drug approval process or that has been altered at the direction of a medical practitioner for a legitimate medical purpose.


PASSED in the Senate on 7/29/10. :evil:

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-s258/show

If this bill is passed entirely, it includes ALL states within the U.S.
Thought it would all be shut down through the states federalizing ALL health care, but maybe THE PROGRAM will get an early retirement through some other kind of subterfuge. Be Aware.
i think we as patients and thc candy eaters are just fine.

i have a five year old and i think its somewhat a good law. after the hashbash this year i had some ozone candies, like 3 different flavors. the next day i had my pocket stuff on the coffee table. my kid picked em up and said whered you get this? with a big smile on his face. he thought i brought him home candy and he didnt believe me that it was medicine and i had to explain that i didnt mean to leave it out for him to see and its adult medicine.
once i made cannabutter and a cake but i was sooo scared that he would eat it the next day if i saved it (he can find anyting hes like a dog) so i ate the whole thing that night (either that or throw it away).
ive decided now to not make any edibles or have em at my house. id rather smoke anyhow ...
 

deprave

New Member
but yeah....This is obviously business as usual in washington...some sort of background deal or alterior motive is behind this if not some kind of trojan horse (I did not read the bill) - The thing about kids is just a distraction and its how they will get it thru....People giving kids drugs in candy/food Is there a documented case of this ever happening? its not like its some kind of epidemic...The politicians are almost forced to vote on this or they look like bad guys so whats the alterior motive or back room deal here, thats what worries me, is the DEA up to something or what? I don't beleive for one second this bill has anything to do with protecting kids, they could care less about kids.

Lets just hope its targeted at MDMA (XTC) smugglers or something and not pot brownies, makes sense because XTC does look like candy especially when they put the cartoon symbols on it....It won't be long before marijuana is not a schedule 1 drug anyway.

IDK I beleive this is targeting XTC and not anything else because they put stuff in there that kind of protects medical marijuana people. I say good because XTC is kind of an epidemic with young people especially and is cut with all sort of dangerous chemicals that have killed/done serious damage to people but the sad thing is it could be used against mj edibles for a person in a non-medical mj state but I kind of doubt somone would be charged federally for like a batch of pot brownies? What are the odds?

Frankly I don't know how they can keep on passing laws that uses a drug schedule from the 70's - really wish they would update it to modern times as there is a good amount of things that have simply been proven incorrect since.....Accord to the federal drug schedulding; marijuana has no medical value and is addictive and lsd/peyote/shrooms is addictive? lol? common sense , you cant even dose LSD frequently if you wanted to because your body builds complete immunity to LSD very rapidly that last for a quite some time.
 

ktwister

Member
I think maybe the brief synopsis of this is causing some confusion in the INterpretation of the law area. I'd advise anyone interested in this area to research it. ALSO, VERY interesting where she rep's in the coming timeframe. For more clarification, here's what one article of the nearly hundred I read had to say:

Last night the United States Senate voted to double the penalties for the nation’s newest existential threat: brownies made with marijuana!
The Senate unanimously passed Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)’s “Saving Kids from Dangerous Drugs Act of 2009″ (S. 258) that targets pot brownies and other marijuana edibles preferred by some medical marijuana patients. The bill next moves to the House; if it passes that chamber, anyone making pot brownies or similar products could be subject to double the fines and jail time for regular marijuana.
This bill’s passage marks a step backwards for Congress, which this week also passed the Fair Sentencing Act that reduced the sentencing disparities between cocaine and crack from 100:1 to 18:1. Now we have a new disparity: pot brownies and other marijuana edibles are now treated as something twice as bad as just distributing marijuana.
“Candy Flavored Meth”
Marijuana prohibitionists often hide behind vague threats to children, and DiFi’s bill is no different. Her “Saving Kids from Dangerous Drugs Act” is framed to make politicians afraid to oppose. “How dare you voted against saving kids from dangerous drugs?”
But DiFi doubled down on the “Reefer Madness”-style hysteria. In championing this bill, Feinstein raised the spectre of “candy flavored meth” as the target of her bill. Something tells me that once, sometime, somewhere, someone claimed to have found candy-flavored meth, probably cut with pixie stix. DiFi ran with this to cover for her true target: marijuana edibles.
Really? Pot Brownies?
Yep. While DiFi’s public line was all “candy flavored meth,” the bill is written broadly enough that pot brownies and other marijuana edibles can be grouped into the law. She mentioned marijuana products in her support of the legislation, of course, but she sought to distract. Here’s the relevant text of the bill:
(1) UNLAWFUL ACTS- Except as authorized under this title, including paragraph (3), it shall be unlawful for any person at least 18 years of age to knowingly or intentionally manufacture or create, with intent to manufacture, create, distribute, or dispense, a controlled substance listed in schedule I or II that is–
‘(A) combined with a candy product;
(B) marketed or packaged to appear similar to a candy product; and
‘(C) modified by flavoring or coloring the controlled substancewith the intent to distribute, dispense, or sell the controlled substance to a person under 18 years of age.
‘(2) PENALTIES- Except as provided in section 418, 419, or 420, any person who violates paragraph (1) of this subsection shall be subject to–
(A) 2 times the maximum punishment and at least 2 times any term of supervised release

The text singles out “candy products,” which is a broad grouping; it also specifies products “modified by flavoring or coloring,” which expands the scope of the law. While the bill is ostensibly aimed at distributing drugs to people under the age of 18, it’s broad enough to pose serious problems for both medical marijuana patients and for dispensaries selling these products to patients.
What’s DiFi got against pot brownies? Prop 19.
Feinstein’s was one of the first bills introduced in the Senate in 2009, and sat idle after it was referred to the Senate Judiciary Committee. That is, until California’s Prop 19 to legalize marijuana started gaining momentum in the spring.
Dianne Feinstein is one of the most vocal opponents to Prop 19. Thought she’s not up for reelection, like other Democratic opponents of legalization in California, Feinstein not only opposes Prop 19, but is actively supporting the campaign to defeat the initiative. In order to help the cause of marijuana prohibitionists, she started to move her anti-pot brownie bill.
How did the bill pass?
A member of the Judiciary Committee, DiFi started to push Chairman Pat Leahy to move the bill through the committee. While the bill didn’t go anywhere for 16 months, DiFi had the Judiciary Committee consider the bill on May 27, which passed it on June 17. Then, with the August recess approaching,
At first, the bill wasn’t supposed to go anywhere. But within the last 36 hours, the picture shifted. Firedoglake was ready with an organizing alert to mobilize opposition to the bill. (Though the excellent Students for Sensible Drug Policy were out early with an action to the Senate.) Then, late yesterday, the Senate passed the bill through unanimous consent. Not only did no sane Democratic Senator step up to put a hold on the bill, no Senators even voted against it.
Do do we really need to put more people in jail for marijuana?
Absolutely not. More people are arrested for marijuana possession than any violent crime combined. Blacks and Latinos are unfairly targeted with marijuana arrests; while whites make up a third of marijuana users, relatively few are in prison. Moreover, since 1984, the country’s prison population has quadrupled. Half of our prisoners are in for drug offenses. We now have 5% of the world’s population, and 25% of its prisoners.
This week Congress voted to reduce sentencing disparities and to reduce prison populations. At a time when the country is taking significant steps to tackle this important issue, Dianne Feinstein and the Senate voted to increase those numbers for… marijuana brownies.
What’s next?
This is one of the many subversive attacks on marijuana legalization by prohibitionists opposing Prop 19. DiFi is only happy to oblige. Countering the prohibitionists will require a massive movement of organized action to give Prop 19 the support it deserves in California. But it goes beyond this election: much needs to be done to sustain activism and organizing in every state that will be voting on marijuana legalization and reform in 2010, 2012, and beyond.

i think we as patients and thc candy eaters are just fine.

For now...... :confused:


i have a five year old and i think its somewhat a good law. after the hashbash this year i had some ozone candies, like 3 different flavors. the next day i had my pocket stuff on the coffee table. my kid picked em up and said whered you get this? with a big smile on his face. he thought i brought him home candy and he didnt believe me that it was medicine and i had to explain that i didnt mean to leave it out for him to see and its adult medicine.
once i made cannabutter and a cake but i was sooo scared that he would eat it the next day if i saved it (he can find anyting hes like a dog) so i ate the whole thing that night (either that or throw it away).
ive decided now to not make any edibles or have em at my house. id rather smoke anyhow ...
The sad thing about it is Finkstein designed the actual sale of the bill to good parents, like yourself, to believe it is what it is. Kind of like the Patriot Act. You also have to consider whether you'd like to smoke or not entirely isn't the question. Medibles also are in actuality not just for hashbash, but really for those who don't have the lung capacity or need to ingest the thc in another way that is safer medically for them.
 
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