Justifying Corporate Salaries in America

Fogdog

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I believe it's the dollar that drives the us economy, oil has to be sold in "us dollar" which in reality worth nothing more than paper and ink, didn't you see what happened to who tried to sell their oil in a different currency?

Israel is more than a partner to the US, more like the manager.

multinational corporations = most likely majority of shares owned by a few individuals or families.

yes we heard Trump's words about "Islamic Terrorists", like we heard about communism before and Palestinian terrorists.

"Much more than half of the people of the US are completely ignorant about people in other parts of the world. There is no hidden conspiracy, it's all out in the open for all to see if they will only look."

True statement there, things like that do not get covered in the main stream media, they just show stupid stuff called "entertainment".

"you sound more like Trump"
that hurts man :cry:
Tty is correct in that the problem isn't one wealthy family but many with a common interest of building wealth and sustaining power. The common factor is wealth and political power, not race or religion in that group. They come from many countries, not just the US or EU.

My comment about Trump was intentionally sharp. I don't have patience with racists, antisemitism, Islamophobia or others who demonize a particular class or race or religion. Really the only reason I'm even talking to you is because I read where you differentiated between "Zionist" and "Jew". It meant to me that you weren't lost to antisemitism and we may share the recognition that zealots and radicals of one kind or another are as much of an affliction on common people as the wealthy class. In your part of the world, assuming you live in the Middle East, one class of zealots that plague the people living there are Zionists. But there are others. Daesh, for instance. At least that's my way of thinking of it. Of course, it's more complicated than what I've just said.

For an example of a particularly vile US Islamophobe, search on Flaming Pie and check out some of her posts from last year.

edit: You might see a different side of Buck if you visit some of her posts.
 
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Fogdog

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I hate most sports, I throw and run like a little girl. I like Archery :)
I too am a complete klutz. I love to play baseball or a variant we call softball but am terrible at it. A person who is good at archery has patience and the ability to focus on an objective. I was very much into that sport as a kid. But wasn't good at that either because I didn't have much patience and kept losing my arrows. The sport I'm best at is free diving. Not swimming pool stuff but going out in the ocean and diving under the water without a SCUBA tank. I spear fish but am really just there to see what is there.
 

Fogdog

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$200,000 is more like a copper parachute. A lot of money, sure, but not remotely on the scale the real players work on.
True, 200 grand is chump change in the larger picture. It's still an amount that some will kill for. It's much more than many manage to save in a lifetime. It's quite the opposite of what Sanders has preached about in terms of corporate responsibility.

Also agree that the CEOs of large corporations get real money when they fuck up and get fired. The problem with this argument is that nobody should get a pay-off if they get fired for fucking up. Not Sanders' wife and not Carly Fiorina. Both fucked up in their position as leader of an organization and both walked with a really nice check. Both are wrong. Morally if not legally.
 

MarWan

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Tty is correct in that the problem isn't one wealthy family but many with a common interest of building wealth and sustaining power. The common factor is wealth and political power, not race or religion in that group. They come from many countries, not just the US or EU.
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I cannot dispute that, religion has nothing to do with it, in fact they (let's call them TPTB) breach almost every teaching of all main religions, they only use it when it serve's their purpose or agenda.
There are Zionists in Palestine (arabs) Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain, Jordan, Egypt, Iran, Qatar and many other countries in the middle east and other places, They come in all shapes and color.

My comment about Trump was intentionally sharp. I don't have patience with racists, antisemitism, Islamophobia or others who demonize a particular class or race or religion. Really the only reason I'm even talking to you is because I read where you differentiated between "Zionist" and "Jew". It meant to me that you weren't lost to antisemitism and we may share the recognition that zealots and radicals of one kind or another are as much of an affliction on common people as the wealthy class. In your part of the world, assuming you live in the Middle East, one class of zealots that plague the people living there are Zionists. But there are others. Daesh, for instance. At least that's my way of thinking of it. Of course, it's more complicated than what I've just said.

For an example of a particularly vile US Islamophobe, search on Flaming Pie and check out some of her posts from last year.

edit: You might see a different side of Buck if you visit some of her posts.
I totally respect you for that, and that's why I take you seriously.

Daesh is basically a creation of the CIA, Mossad, Saudi Intelligence and some other countries, just like Sep 11, it gave the US and Israel and their allies a reason to get involved in Syria and other places.
Some of the injured of the so called "Muslim terrorists" were receiving treatment in Israel.
The Iraqi government had announced several times that The US Air force were dropping supplies to Daesh.

I've a pretty good Idea about uncel Buck, But I doubt his intentions :)
I like reading his posts, he make me laugh hard some times.
 

Fogdog

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I cannot dispute that, religion has nothing to do with it, in fact they (let's call them TPTB) breach almost every teaching of all main religions, they only use it when it serve's their purpose or agenda.
There are Zionists in Palestine (arabs) Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain, Jordan, Egypt, Iran, Qatar and many other countries in the middle east and other places, They come in all shapes and color.



I totally respect you for that, and that's why I take you seriously.

Daesh is basically a creation of the CIA, Mossad, Saudi Intelligence and some other countries, just like Sep 11, it gave the US and Israel and their allies a reason to get involved in Syria and other places.
Some of the injured of the so called "Muslim terrorists" were receiving treatment in Israel.
The Iraqi government had announced several times that The US Air force were dropping supplies to Daesh.

I've a pretty good Idea about uncel Buck, But I doubt his intentions :)
I like reading his posts, he make me laugh hard some times.
I would like to read more about this claim that Daesh is a tool of the US, Israel, and Saudi Arabia. Can you post a link to an article that you find informative? I admit up front that I'm skeptical.
 

MarWan

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I would like to read more about this claim that Daesh is a tool of the US, Israel, and Saudi Arabia. Can you post a link to an article that you find informative? I admit up front that I'm skeptical.
We finally know what Hillary Clinton knew all along – US allies Saudi Arabia and Qatar are funding Isis
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/hillary-clinton-wikileaks-email-isis-saudi-arabia-qatar-us-allies-funding-barack-obama-knew-all-a7362071.html

Fact Check: Were Obama and Hillary Founders of ISIS? You Bet
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/08/12/fact-check-obama-hillary-founders-isis-bet/

mossad-officer-leading-isis-as-mosque-imam-arrested-in-libya
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/08/27/mossad-officer-leading-isis-as-mosque-imam-arrested-in-libya/

ISIS is working on Mossad/CIA Plan to Create Greater Israel
http://www.inspiretochangeworld.com/2015/09/isis-is-working-on-mossadcia-plan-to-create-greater-israel/

when I think about what is taking place in the middle east it mostly points out to achieving the goal of Greater Israel from the Nile River to the Tigris Euphrates.



 

Fogdog

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We finally know what Hillary Clinton knew all along – US allies Saudi Arabia and Qatar are funding Isis
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/hillary-clinton-wikileaks-email-isis-saudi-arabia-qatar-us-allies-funding-barack-obama-knew-all-a7362071.html

Fact Check: Were Obama and Hillary Founders of ISIS? You Bet
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/08/12/fact-check-obama-hillary-founders-isis-bet/

mossad-officer-leading-isis-as-mosque-imam-arrested-in-libya
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/08/27/mossad-officer-leading-isis-as-mosque-imam-arrested-in-libya/

ISIS is working on Mossad/CIA Plan to Create Greater Israel
http://www.inspiretochangeworld.com/2015/09/isis-is-working-on-mossadcia-plan-to-create-greater-israel/

when I think about what is taking place in the middle east it mostly points out to achieving the goal of Greater Israel from the Nile River to the Tigris Euphrates.
Thanks for this. There is a lot to go over here. It will take me a while, except for Breitbart which is proven not to be a reliable source of information. I'll read and think about it.
 

UncleBuck

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We finally know what Hillary Clinton knew all along – US allies Saudi Arabia and Qatar are funding Isis
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/hillary-clinton-wikileaks-email-isis-saudi-arabia-qatar-us-allies-funding-barack-obama-knew-all-a7362071.html

Fact Check: Were Obama and Hillary Founders of ISIS? You Bet
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/08/12/fact-check-obama-hillary-founders-isis-bet/

mossad-officer-leading-isis-as-mosque-imam-arrested-in-libya
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/08/27/mossad-officer-leading-isis-as-mosque-imam-arrested-in-libya/

ISIS is working on Mossad/CIA Plan to Create Greater Israel
http://www.inspiretochangeworld.com/2015/09/isis-is-working-on-mossadcia-plan-to-create-greater-israel/

when I think about what is taking place in the middle east it mostly points out to achieving the goal of Greater Israel from the Nile River to the Tigris Euphrates.



breitbart?

you dumb crackhead.
 

MarWan

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i would kill myself if you said this to me.
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Oh you turn me on so bad, I've grown to be obsessed with you

"I've Grown Accustomed To Your Posts"

I've grown accustomed to his posts,
He almost makes the day begin,
I've grown accustomed to the tune he whistle night and noon.
His smiles, his frowns,
His ups his downs are second nature to me know
Like breathing out and breathing in.

I was so really independent and content before we met,
Surely i could always be that way again and yet
I've grown accustomed to his looks,
Accustomed to his voice,
Accustomed to his posts.

I've grown accustomed to his posts,
He almost makes the day begin.
I've gotten used to hear him say "Jew hater" everyday.
His joys, his woes, his highs, his lows
Are sencond nature to me know
Like breathing out, breathing in

I'm very glad he's a an asshole and so easy to forget
Rather like a habit one can always break and yet
I've grown accustomed to the trace of something in the air
Accustomed to his posts
 

BrewerT

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I grew up in a Reformed Judaism home. I can remember much of my school days being blasted with money jokes by only the teachers, and half the time, the kids, along with myself would look at them like what in the hell are they talking about!

Now that I am an adult, I can't help but wonder where all this money is that my Jewish Identity is supposed to bless me with. My parents both worked until 65 and had to just to retire. I am a Brewer for Long Trail Brewing. I made $56,770 last year. That's the income of a typical American. Almost half of Americans make under 60k.....and none of them are Jews except me apparently.

I am in no way a practicing or faithful Jew. Jewish laws general prescribe me as Jewish as my mother is Jewish. I am an ethnic Jew by birth. I have lived all but 5 years in America. 3 Years spent playing Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan and 2 years studying in Tel Aviv. 98% of Jews, from all walks of life, are in many ways the same as Americans. They work what life they have away all for a money. Its the only way to survive. Jews get this false label as being some wealthy society....and it's just not the truth.

Jews control, run, and own mostly kosher deli stores....idk how anyone can muster much more than that reality.
 

Fogdog

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We finally know what Hillary Clinton knew all along – US allies Saudi Arabia and Qatar are funding Isis
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/hillary-clinton-wikileaks-email-isis-saudi-arabia-qatar-us-allies-funding-barack-obama-knew-all-a7362071.html

Fact Check: Were Obama and Hillary Founders of ISIS? You Bet
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/08/12/fact-check-obama-hillary-founders-isis-bet/

mossad-officer-leading-isis-as-mosque-imam-arrested-in-libya
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/08/27/mossad-officer-leading-isis-as-mosque-imam-arrested-in-libya/

ISIS is working on Mossad/CIA Plan to Create Greater Israel
http://www.inspiretochangeworld.com/2015/09/isis-is-working-on-mossadcia-plan-to-create-greater-israel/

when I think about what is taking place in the middle east it mostly points out to achieving the goal of Greater Israel from the Nile River to the Tigris Euphrates.



I took a look. It's bullshit. These conspiracy theories that predict doom have no accountability. Ten years from now it will be something else.

I don't think I'll ever convince you that this stuff is used to manipulate you. Maybe it's just about donating money for a cause that is just about donating more money. Or maybe it's a recruiting tool for people who want to lure impressionable young people into a dreadful cause. I've found that people who are hooked on conspiracy theories are not worth talking to. Most are losers in real life and conspiracy theories make them feel "in the know". So, I'll just put you on ignore now and not wish you the best. This stuff is dreadful.
 

captainmorgan

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I took a look. It's bullshit. These conspiracy theories that predict doom have no accountability. Ten years from now it will be something else.

I don't think I'll ever convince you that this stuff is used to manipulate you. Maybe it's just about donating money for a cause that is just about donating more money. Or maybe it's a recruiting tool for people who want to lure impressionable young people into a dreadful cause. I've found that people who are hooked on conspiracy theories are not worth talking to. Most are losers in real life and conspiracy theories make them feel "in the know". So, I'll just put you on ignore now and not wish you the best. This stuff is dreadful.

I think it's a generational thing, seems like most people 45 or younger I talk to about all the crazy shit going on claim conspiracy, and I mean they think everything is a conspiracy.
 

Fogdog

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I think it's a generational thing, seems like most people 45 or younger I talk to about all the crazy shit going on claim conspiracy, and I mean they think everything is a conspiracy.
There are plenty of old men who talk about that stuff too. Even WWII generation had a conspiracy theory about FDR conspiracy to let Japan bomb Pearl Harbor. There was even one about a second shooter in the Lincoln assassination. During Vietnam, there were plenty of conspiracy theories too. Some psychologists say fake conspiracy theorists stem from the natural instinct to identity patterns that allow people to predict danger. What was an important survival skill is now a comfort to those who can't handle the complexity of today's life.

I also don't think MarWan had a chance. He doesn't understand today's technology, which indicates to me that his education wasn't very good. Imagine growing up with a poor education and surrounded by the kind of myths he tells here to explain his reasoning. Some people believe every word of the Bible or Quran is meant to be followed literally. Not too different than the run of the mill conspiracy theory.

But, yeah, the speed at which conspiracy theories propagate these days is faster than the speed of light. It was just hours after 10/1 disaster when the myth of a Las Vegas second shooter showed up.
 
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