Kind LED Bar lights

Abiqua said:

Why should anybody take a chance on such scant information....Just saying. I want to promote good LED's, but the #'s are everything and you STILL don't want to play......

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Well, I have cct of each spectrum as well as lpw (again 165 average between models) a warranty, and results.
That's all I need to keep using & buying them.
I've answered all this to you before. You don't remember my saying they're custom cuz most comp. don't provide 70CRI? They use 70 to get the heavier weighted reds.

Kerovan said:

I would recommend one of the following. I have a 24x48 tent that I use with the 260W xl quantum board. It works very well for that size, the 320 would probably be a little better though.

https://growerslights.com/collections/horticulture-lighting-group-quantum-board-led-kits/products/horticulture-lighting-group-320-watt-xl-quantum-board-led-kit

https://growerslights.com/collections/horticulture-lighting-group-quantum-board-led-kits/products/horticulture-lighting-group-260-watt-xl-quantum-board-led-kit

You might be able to do ok with these strips I see some people recommending, but the strip grows I've seen lately in these forums are crap with plants 6 times taller than they should stretching for light. If a fly were to land on the top leaf they would probably fall over. They don't leave me impressed.

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I have the QB260 XL in another cabinet build. I like it, have not had a chance to grow under it yet though. I just was not sure if given my limited hight 30 1/2 tall, 20 deep, 52 wide, in my new cabinet that it would bee two much, or focused in too small of an area on the plants. That's why i'm looking into these longer strips to build my own in this one.

I can't tell how many led's are on these strips though. https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/samsung-semiconductor-inc/SI-B8V521B20WW/1510-2225-ND/

BigCityGrow said:

I have the QB260 XL in another cabinet build. I like it, have not had a chance to grow under it yet though. I just was not sure if given my limited hight 30 1/2 tall, 20 deep, 52 wide, in my new cabinet that it would bee two much, or focused in too small of an area on the plants. That's why i'm looking into these longer strips to build my own in this one.

I can't tell how many led's are on these strips though. https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/samsung-semiconductor-inc/SI-B8V521B20WW/1510-2225-ND/

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W/ only 30" hight, strips is the way to go. 10-15w, 4' strips.

With 30" height I would go with t5 flourescents. Or if on an extreme budget t8's would work. You can let the plants touch the bulbs. And you are going to have to go with an extremely well maintained scrog.

Kerovan said:

With 30" height I would go with t5 flourescents. Or if on an extreme budget t8's would work. You can let the plants touch the bulbs. And you are going to have to go with an extremely well maintained scrog.

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12w of good led strip accomplishes what 54w T-5 bulb does these days.
Tested the Horizons w/ a par meter & they were brighter then a 432w T-5 using only 100w.
T-5's are burnt toast & restrict air movement.
Practically no heat too.

F22b is 16sx9p
144 diodes

Kerovan said:

With 30" height I would go with t5 flourescents. Or if on an extreme budget t8's would work. You can let the plants touch the bulbs. And you are going to have to go with an extremely well maintained scrog.

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Screened out for sure, I figure that's the only way to go in this set up. There is no budget for this project but looks are important.

Kerovan said:

With 30" height I would go with t5 flourescents. Or if on an extreme budget t8's would work.

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This is terrible advice.

MajorAce said:

HLG-240h-48 would be a good driver
running 5 or 6 of the EB strips you linked.
$160 for the driver and Strips shipped from Arrow.
Im a major noob though so hopefully someone else chimes in.

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OK So i'm looking at these strips is 3500K https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/samsung-semiconductor-inc/SI-B8U521B20WW/1510-2226-ND/6624010

six strips.

would this be the driver? https://www.arrow.com/en/products/hlg-480h-48a/mean-well-enterprises

Where can I get the wire for connecting the strips to each other?

Thanks!

Hybridway said:

Well, I have cct of each spectrum as well as lpw (again 165 average between models) a warranty, and results.
That's all I need to keep using & buying them.
I've answered all this to you before. You don't remember my saying they're custom cuz most comp. don't provide 70CRI? They use 70 to get the heavier weighted reds.

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That literally explains nothing.

I don't have beef, I am just legitimately interested. The questions I ask of you, even Kind LED would be able to answer let alone the well detailed Legitimate sellers around the LED forums....providing bins and extrapolating power conditions......

Why can't you?

70 cri means nothing Hy.
I remember all of the conversation before, would you like to post it, because you obviously don't remember.

165 lumens/watt? is that Test Current or Max current? What is the test current and the max current.

BigCityGrow said:

OK So i'm looking at these strips is 3500K https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/samsung-semiconductor-inc/SI-B8U521B20WW/1510-2226-ND/6624010

six strips.

would this be the driver? https://www.arrow.com/en/products/hlg-480h-48a/mean-well-enterprises

Where can I get the wire for connecting the strips to each other?

Thanks!

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Same 6 strips and driver I got. Need at least 6 strip for that driver, but I am going to drive 14-16 before I am done

Sour Wreck said:

Same 6 strips and driver I got. Need at least 6 strip for that driver, but I am going to drive 14-16 before I am done

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Awesome, if I can fit more into the frame I'm building for the space I'll bump it up. Thanks again for the help.

BigCityGrow said:

Awesome, if I can fit more into the frame I'm building for the space I'll bump it up. Thanks again for the help.

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Now problem, good luck

For your space 8.3 sqft I would think 480 watts would be serious over kill. If it were me I would run the HLG-240H-48 with 6 strips. With 8 hb22b strips run on a hlg-480h is essentially a HLG 550.

https://www.arrow.com/en/products/elg-240-48a/mean-well-enterprises

this driver and 4x hb22b strips would be real similar to a qb 260(designed for a 2x4).

Abiqua said:

That literally explains nothing.

I don't have beef, I am just legitimately interested. The questions I ask of you, even Kind LED would be able to answer let alone the well detailed Legitimate sellers around the LED forums....providing bins and extrapolating power conditions......

Why can't you?

70 cri means nothing Hy.
I remember all of the conversation before, would you like to post it, because you obviously don't remember.

165 lumens/watt? is that Test Current or Max current? What is the test current and the max current.

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I answer what I can which is usually what I inquire about. I asked some of these questions & shared what I was told. The reason for the lack of info I think is because they're customized & from an unfamiliar maker.
165 average between different lights they have @ whatever they're running @. Some already know but SunCloak runs mega soft. Something like 20% the LEDs rated load. Them being efficient isn't a question to me.

MajorAce said:

For your space 8.3 sqft I would think 480 watts would be serious over kill. If it were me I would run the HLG-240H-48 with 6 strips. With 8 hb22b strips run on a hlg-480h is essentially a HLG 550.

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