Kind soil?

bbyb420

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Haha I love his claims that his soil will feed a 5 gallon grow seed to harvest.. Yeah if you have dwarf plants. Something else I want to know, what is with the fucking smell?? Ammonia and dog shit was the way my dad described it. I had to install my carbon filter in veg just so it wouldn't creep into the house and make everyone gag.
 

Stonironi

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Haha I love his claims that his soil will feed a 5 gallon grow seed to harvest.. Yeah if you have dwarf plants. Something else I want to know, what is with the fucking smell?? Ammonia and dog shit was the way my dad described it. I had to install my carbon filter in veg just so it wouldn't creep into the house and make everyone gag.
It was some toxic shit!! He puts it in bags that don't breathe causing it to go anaerobic super quick . It's ok ask him about it and he will blame you for doing something wrong to his soil. It's a straight up joke imo but there are people that get results from his stuff or they claim . But I've met more that have had problems than anything and now you are another one . Welcome to the club .
 

Stonironi

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Stoni have you got a thread going? How's the rare Dankness that you've been growing, you must be half way into flower by now.

Man I almost empathize with phil, somehow, seems this thread has devolved into swamp mud. maybe I'll give it a rest
I wouldn't empathize with someone that takes your money knowing that there product is shit and then blames you for messing it up and offers you nothing but a nasty attitude. On a brighter note ,Rugburn is going great should be done sooooon :) thanks for asking. Yeah I'm over it now too though honestly . Live and learn . Ya know . No I don't have a thread. I posted a few pics in the water only thread by dr pecker but I haven't put anything up in a couple weeks .
 

Illinois Enema Bandit

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I haven't read farther than the dozen or so posts the OP or mod quoted n started the thread with,the problem I see is the seller of this Kind Soil not listing the ingredients in the soil more than price,adults don't give a shit about your profit margins & bag costs but they do want to know exactly what's in your soil before they buy it,or plan a grow around it,not listing the soils ingredients is a bad business model from jump street,not providing the products ingredients when asked directly to do so is down right insulting to professional marijuana growers.

I pay a lot of money to botanicare & general hydroponics because of the ingredients in their products I use,and spend a shit ton of coin on,not providing a complete list of what's inside the soil reeks of Advanced Nutrients go go juice sales pitch & is no Bruno my friend .

my advice given as a professional grower & provider is this,get your shit together,drop the secret formula act and tell your prospective customers exactly what it is you reccomend they buy from you .

saying something kin to " stfu n buy my shit cause it works,trust me" will only harden customers against your business.
 

Illinois Enema Bandit

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We don't need the recipe we just want to know whats in it. Its not going to tell us how to make it. pepsi does label the ingredients Mountain dew pitch black= carbonated water,high fructose corn syrup, citric acid, natural flavor, sodium benzoate(preserves freshness), caffeine, gum arabic, sodium citrate, red 40, calcium disodium edta(to protect flavor), sucrose acetate, isobutyrate, blue 1, caffene content 54mg/12 fl oz With this information I still have no idea how to make mountain dew.
very true & not an absurd request,dudes who stand to lose $10k from a bad soil mix or gain $10k from a good mix are only doing due diligance,funny how general hydroponics will send you an msds sheet listing "exact" quantity's of every ingredient if we ask & botanicare will do the same .

nobody wants to reverse engineer some pre made soil mix except the cfl in moms closet crowd who digs dirt from behind the garage,pro growers don't have time to mix 5 yards of soil :lol:

I wouldn't buy the soil on GP .
 

mrbungle79

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I haven't read farther than the dozen or so posts the OP or mod quoted n started the thread with,the problem I see is the seller of this Kind Soil not listing the ingredients in the soil more than price,adults don't give a shit about your profit margins & bag costs but they do want to know exactly what's in your soil before they buy it,or plan a grow around it,not listing the soils ingredients is a bad business model from jump street,not providing the products ingredients when asked directly to do so is down right insulting to professional marijuana growers.

I pay a lot of money to botanicare & general hydroponics because of the ingredients in their products I use,and spend a shit ton of coin on,not providing a complete list of what's inside the soil reeks of Advanced Nutrients go go juice sales pitch & is no Bruno my friend .

my advice given as a professional grower & provider is this,get your shit together,drop the secret formula act and tell your prospective customers exactly what it is you reccomend they buy from you .

saying something kin to " stfu n buy my shit cause it works,trust me" will only harden customers against your business.
the ingredients list is on their site and I've linked to it at least once on this post. it's not a secret. no, i've never used it nor will I.
 

Stonironi

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very true & not an absurd request,dudes who stand to lose $10k from a bad soil mix or gain $10k from a good mix are only doing due diligance,funny how general hydroponics will send you an msds sheet listing "exact" quantity's of every ingredient if we ask & botanicare will do the same .

nobody wants to reverse engineer some pre made soil mix except the cfl in moms closet crowd who digs dirt from behind the garage,pro growers don't have time to mix 5 yards of soil :lol:

I wouldn't buy the soil on GP .
The soil is no good . It doesn't matter what is in it . It don't work !!!
 

Stonironi

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Greetings again,
My kindsoil grow test is coming up during the next few months(hopefully 55 days). If I have problems or not I will surely test the ph of the wet soil(upper and lower) and also test the ph of the plant/pot runoff water. That way I will have some facts at hand if something went wrong instead of wondering or concluding kindsoil is "absolute junk" out of frustration.
What ever happened to your kind soil grow ??? Lmfao did it not work for you either ?
 

Stonironi

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I haven't read farther than the dozen or so posts the OP or mod quoted n started the thread with,the problem I see is the seller of this Kind Soil not listing the ingredients in the soil more than price,adults don't give a shit about your profit margins & bag costs but they do want to know exactly what's in your soil before they buy it,or plan a grow around it,not listing the soils ingredients is a bad business model from jump street,not providing the products ingredients when asked directly to do so is down right insulting to professional marijuana growers.

I pay a lot of money to botanicare & general hydroponics because of the ingredients in their products I use,and spend a shit ton of coin on,not providing a complete list of what's inside the soil reeks of Advanced Nutrients go go juice sales pitch & is no Bruno my friend .

my advice given as a professional grower & provider is this,get your shit together,drop the secret formula act and tell your prospective customers exactly what it is you reccomend they buy from you .

saying something kin to " stfu n buy my shit cause it works,trust me" will only harden customers against your business.
page 5 1/3 way down the page I posted the list of ingredients in this soil. But it really don't matter
 

Illinois Enema Bandit

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page 5 1/3 way down the page I posted the list of ingredients in this soil. But it really don't matter
sentence 1 of the post you quoted of mine says & I quote " I haven't read farther than the posts the OP quoted to start the thread" ,meaning there's no way I could have read page 5 & I said that right off the bat .

now pages later you quote me again,only this time proclaim " I don't care " ,which makes 2 of us because I don't grow in soil.

instead of waiting for a 2nd thread to be created,then allowing it to go 5 pages it seems to me theres a much better business plan, you should have told the guys to chill the fuck out for a half hour so you could post the info they asked for, then posted it with an apology for not providing it from post #1.

many of us here make our living in the same industry as you do & we know 1 universal truth,with angry customers you won't last long, I've pissed customers off before but instead of arguing with them I send them home with a pound & gain loyalty, instead of giving up try offering a bit of free soil to the members you were arguing with would go a long way bro,but that's my business model & it don't work for everybody .

best of luck to you as I wish you no I'll will .
 
Lol im actually still waiting for the zombies next post, that dude dlftmyers seemed to have good grow w the pro mix

What kind of pro mix did you use there seems to be diff brands of it

I don't think they make an accurate soil ph probe. This is the best way to go, MSU soil test. I think it's like $14 http://www.msusoiltest.com/ Or you could try these soil test kits, they're more accurate than the probes and they can get pretty elaborate.

Whats your supersoil recipe just curious
 
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