Land and Heir Genetics / Paydirt seeds

Yep I agree with you. Definitely trade brought the wider leaf cultivars, in my humble opinion. I believe trade via/from China brought these here (and everywhere else) more often than not. At least since the 16-1700's if not much further back than that.
I know a guy who grew up in Kenya but I'd just as soon choke him than ask him a question so I guess he is out lol. My mate down South with the garden shop didnt answer my questions yet so will try to rattle him again.

I've seen some Congo cultivars with fatter broad leaves but only pictures

If they are in fact not I'm not going to put out anything that isn't verifiable

LandAndHeir said:

If they are in fact not I'm not going to put out anything that isn't verifiable

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I wasnt questioning their authenticity I was just curious as all I saw over on the West coast were narrow leaves. I was only down South a few trips and what I saw there was already packaged so no idea what it looked like previously.

Without having someone there on the ground will be hard to verify though a quick google search talks about pure western kenyan sativa landrace, but who knows how true that is. And that was some from a place called Migori. Sensi labels Kenyan as pure sativa landrace, but again thats just marketing. We need a weed nerd in Kenya

These came from an independent source. One of two scenarios exist ..he either made up fake stuff and lab results pics etc (which ain't difficult)..or he didn't lie and did gather them from his travels. Fate trust and taking chances is what I'm all about fam. Lets see what we get

Yeah like I said above I was exactly questioning the authenticity just having a conversation on them . I would do the same

I gotcha buddy I know you aren't questioning authenticity, but it made my brain work reading your awesome post...that's why I embarked on that little tangent

Crippie s1 going down soon too...

Gonna keep those for private use though....

Well fuck me sideways!! The 3 Kenyan males are now the three most truly intersex plants I've ever ever seen. All three equally displaying male and female traits in equal intensity. Full nuts and long beautiful pistils at the same time. This leads me to many questions! Of course I killed them but not before pics!




I tried my best to get both sex organs in the shots..look closely.


That brings me to the single female. She still hasn't shown intersex traits but I fear that may be because she was cut back so far in the move that the few nodes she does have rant accurately displaying the genes.....your thoughts?

LandAndHeir said:

Well fuck me sideways!! The 3 Kenyan males are now the three most truly intersex plants I've ever ever seen. All three equally displaying male and female traits in equal intensity. Full nuts and long beautiful pistils at the same time. This leads me to many questions! Of course I killed them but not before pics!
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That brings me to the single female. She still hasn't shown intersex traits but I fear that may be because she was cut back so far in the move that the few nodes she does have rant accurately displaying the genes.....your thoughts?

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I think you're probably right on the supposed female considering the way the other "displayed". So they've been reproducing themselves like that? I don't know what to think other than run some more and see if it wasnt luck of the draw?

Hey @LandAndHeir I am happy to say that I got the package. Will get some started as soon as I can, likely the next waxing crescent moon. Will have a look at beans in a bit, my kids just brought the mail up, and wanted to let you know.

Only 11 days too, shit thats short in comparison to East Coast shipping times to here or UK shipping time to here. Then alot of times things land here and are held at customs for a week or more before they are even looked at . Ah well, that con doesnt outweigh the pros of living here

LandAndHeir said:

Well fuck me sideways!! The 3 Kenyan males are now the three most truly intersex plants I've ever ever seen. All three equally displaying male and female traits in equal intensity. Full nuts and long beautiful pistils at the same time. This leads me to many questions! Of course I killed them but not before pics!
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That brings me to the single female. She still hasn't shown intersex traits but I fear that may be because she was cut back so far in the move that the few nodes she does have rant accurately displaying the genes.....your thoughts?

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he/she is a gorgeous representation of a plant with a high degree of intersex traits its a shame tho, was excited to see the kenyan in flower :/

I know it is literally the epitome of intersex. Thanks for following man I appreciate your insight greatly

Malawi 1, Malawi male, Malawi 2

Malawi 1, stretcher,more sensitive to cold. Longer internodes.

Malawi 2 , bushier, hardy, more mature leaf sets, more resistant to cold.

The male. Nice balls forming In week 2

All malawi day 13 day of flower

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All malawi day 13 day of flower

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How long do they take to finish? just wondering what is should be expecting

Should be about 14 weeks but it's the first time for me flipping these so we will see.