LEd light advice

well said. i agree with you. if they will make me the panel with the setup i want ill get it. if not ill buy an area 51 and not expand as fast. i think they need to focus their lights on either veg or bloom not both, you loose allot when you do that. i also love getting new knowledge. and i know you have done research. but i also have to consider the cost per sq ft. and $30 is in my budget for sure. i jsut want great bud. Ill know when i harvest. im using 4 par38 led bulbs hanging and a 180 watt ufo(10 band with uv/ir) to flower/bloom 4 plants if i can get 2 oz total ill be happy. and if those led's can grow it right then ill go from there the total real watt for them is 112 + 18 +18 +12 +12 =172. plus cfl drop ins with Mylar reflecting them if i need too.

DCobeen, it has also been documented that the Mars II LED panels have shipped with metal shavings inside of the unit.
This can cause a number of problems like, toxic fumes, a short circuit, or even a fire.
There is a reason you see us recommending the same handful of LED panels over and over again in these threads.
I would personally recommend Area 51, I've had fantastic results with them, myself.
As for the Mars II's, when something looks too good to be true, that's because it is.
Good luck.

okay. you all are all pushing me at the area51. looks like ill jsut go that route.
check this out i add my nutes to my water ppm=562 with bloom nutes. i check ph its 5. well i want some veg nutes in also so i only have mg 12/4/8 liquid feed on hand i add 1/4 tsp it goes to 998 ppm. i then check my ph its 6.2 which is perfect. all this time ive been fighting ph issues with old ph meter and my new meter is fast and accurate. so i just had to add a little mg liquid feed which i find out has ph balance'r in it. humm well ill also order ph up i dotn want to use to much of this mg fert. its for my fing flowers outside lmao.