Legalazation : Auma 2016 and MMRSA

TWS

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Sorry for being so uninformed but it seems like I keep reading different shit everywhere.... so what does this do to patients rights? Is prop 215 effected?
Prop 215 was effected by MMRSA.
Prop 215 is no longer as we know it . You are limited to 100 Sq ft or 500 if you are a caregiver .
 

curious2garden

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Sorry for being so uninformed but it seems like I keep reading different shit everywhere.... so what does this do to patients rights? Is prop 215 effected?
AUMA 11362.3.f
“Nothing in section 11362.1 shall be construed or interpreted to amend, repeal, affect, restrict or preempt: (i) Laws pertaining to the Compassionate Use Act of 1996.”
 
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Magic Mike

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Yeah but who will be eligible for prop 215 rights now?? Where will you find a primary care doctor that will write you a script? The days of easily qualifying for a doctor's rep I think are over. The new laws specifically state that doctor's are now subject to sanctions and punishments for writing too many scripts, as well as they have to operate within guidelines set forth by the new laws to even be able to write one.

Not only that, your script now has to come from your primary care physician . I know I don't qualify. I am very healthy. If I can I'll go that route, if I can't, I'll try to get a license, if that is available.

If neither of those routes work, fuck em. Fuck em all. I don't give a fuck. I am well grounded and have a very nice thriving BM growing/distribution network now.

The mob bootlegged alcohol well into the 1950's. The reason they were successful at that after prohibition is because the alcohol licensing was very tough to get at that time, and the taxes were very high, making a perfect storm for bootleggers for years to come.
 

curious2garden

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Yeah but who will be eligible for prop 215 rights now?? Where will you find a primary care doctor that will write you a script? The days of easily qualifying for a doctor's rep I think are over. The new laws specifically state that doctor's are now subject to sanctions and punishments for writing too many scripts, as well as they have to operate within guidelines set forth by the new laws to even be able to write one.

Not only that, your script now has to come from your primary care physician . I know I don't qualify. I am very healthy. If I can I'll go that route, if I can't, I'll try to get a license, if that is available.

If neither of those routes work, fuck em. Fuck em all. I don't give a fuck. I am well grounded and have a very nice thriving BM growing/distribution network now.

The mob bootlegged alcohol well into the 1950's. The reason they were successful at that after prohibition is because the alcohol licensing was very tough to get at that time, and the taxes were very high, making a perfect storm for bootleggers for years to come.
Definition of Attending Physician
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=hsc&group=11001-12000&file=11362.7-11362.83

11362.7. For purposes of this article, the following definitions
shall apply:
(a) "Attending physician" means an individual who possesses a
license in good standing to practice medicine or osteopathy issued by
the Medical Board of California or the Osteopathic Medical Board of
California and who has taken responsibility for an aspect of the
medical care, treatment, diagnosis, counseling, or referral of a
patient and who has conducted a medical examination of that patient
before recording in the patient's medical record the physician's
assessment of whether the patient has a serious medical condition and
whether the medical use of marijuana is appropriate.

I agree there is going to be a lot of discomfort, misunderstanding, costs etc... associated with this change, all the while I imagine the black market will continue apace. However it was time for legalization and hopefully mistakes will be rectified as we move forward.. Now let's all polish our resumes and go regulate this for the state :) Nothing like a 420 friendly workplace!
 

Magic Mike

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I hear that. this shit is actually starting to make me laugh . Its a perfect storm for the good old bootleg days. fuck control and tax the shit out of marijuana . it sounds like a big fail to me. control my dick first bitches i'm about to get minted off this shit. so blow me control freaks and tax my dick bitches <<<thats my attitude towards tax and control


sheeeit!!!

just got to be careful and a little bit more crafty lol
 

curious2garden

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Staff member
I hear that. this shit is actually starting to make me laugh . Its a perfect storm for the good old bootleg days. fuck control and tax the shit out of marijuana . it sounds like a big fail to me. control my dick first bitches i'm about to get minted off this shit. so blow me control freaks and tax my dick bitches <<<thats my attitude towards tax and control


sheeeit!!!

just got to be careful and a little bit more crafty lol
They couldn't make anything this crazy up only reality can be this fucked up. Just gotta roll with the punches and seriously the only way cannabis would get legalized was by making it financially lucrative to those in power. Hopefully it will swing toward the middle.

But I'm serious we ALL need to get jobs with the state :bigjoint:
 
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Magic Mike

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Definition of Attending Physician
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=hsc&group=11001-12000&file=11362.7-11362.83

11362.7. For purposes of this article, the following definitions
shall apply:
(a) "Attending physician" means an individual who possesses a
license in good standing to practice medicine or osteopathy issued by
the Medical Board of California or the Osteopathic Medical Board of
California and who has taken responsibility for an aspect of the
medical care, treatment, diagnosis, counseling, or referral of a
patient and who has conducted a medical examination of that patient
before recording in the patient's medical record the physician's
assessment of whether the patient has a serious medical condition and
whether the medical use of marijuana is appropriate.

I agree there is going to be a lot of discomfort, misunderstanding, costs etc... associated with this change, all the while I imagine the black market will continue apace. However it was time for legalization and hopefully mistakes will be rectified as we move forward.. Now let's all polish our resumes and go regulate this for the state :) Nothing like a 420 friendly workplace!
I hear that. I will attempt to make a sincere effort toward obtaining a "micro" business license if that is available. I know and believe I am very capable of running a legit op, I've been running 2 for 12 years now.

The availability of this licensing was never disclosed though and that concerns me. So that may very well be unattainable for most. I do have a partner and we're very qualified, but, the competition for these licenses could be fierce and very limited, and very expensive. I just watched the owner of harborside get 1 san leandro license and the owner of Blum got the other. Both of these individuals own dispensaries making 20-30miliion per year and have hundreds of millions in backing. And, I think these are the "small" players they were referring to.

At any rate good to see others take on this , besides my own situations and interpretations of what this means to me in my scenario.

I really wish everyone the best with this shit , don't get busted now that weed is legal lol
 

curious2garden

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I hear that. I will attempt to make a sincere effort toward obtaining a "micro" business license if that is available. I know and believe I am very capable of running a legit op, I've been running 2 for 12 years now.

The availability of this licensing was never disclosed though and that concerns me. So that may very well be unattainable for most. I do have a partner and we're very qualified, but, the competition for these licenses could be fierce and very limited, and very expensive. I just watched the owner of harborside get 1 san leandro license and the owner of Blum got the other. Both of these individuals own dispensaries making 20-30miliion per year and have hundreds of millions in backing. And, I think these are the "small" players they were referring to.

At any rate good to see others take on this , besides my own situations and interpretations of what this means to me in my scenario.

I really wish everyone the best with this shit , don't get busted now that weed is legal lol
I know you just can't make this shit up. Anyway I hope you'll be able to get a license. I imagine at the start it will be tough, hopefully it will calm down when some legal precedent has been made. Until then we just keep doing what we do I suppose.
 

Magic Mike

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They couldn't make anything this crazy up only reality can be this fucked up. Just gotta roll with the punches and seriously the only way cannabis would get legalized was by making it financially lucrative to those in power. Hopefully it will swing toward the middle.

But I'm serious we ALL need to get jobs with state :bigjoint:
Not a bad idea at all , it is probably a better investment . It is easier to grease politicians if you are around them . I am guessing success in this new "legal" industry relies a lot on politics which kind of sucks for most , sad but true

it would also be nice to form private social clubs for advancement for the group, self enforcement of rules, writing rules , and ultimately making shit work by force, and gentleness is it's own kind of force, like infiltration

many powerful movements came from social injustice and oppression and evolved into great machines

I am hoping for the best for everyone . This is a big think tank for a lot of us .
 

doublejj

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I believe trump will reschedule marijuana to a schedule 2 drug. this will end recreational pot nation wide...
 

potroastV2

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Damn Man! Do you ever say anything that is factual? :roll:

Your ideas about Prop 64 and the progress we're making in cannabis prohibition is not going to slow us down, and what you think will happen is wrong. Please stop.

:mrgreen:
 

curious2garden

Well-Known Mod
Staff member
I believe trump will reschedule marijuana to a schedule 2 drug. this will end recreational pot nation wide...
JJ Dronabinol/Marinol (synthetic THC), is currently Schedule III why would they reschedule II? Even if they do our state laws are allowing us to manufacture and distribute a Schedule I so re-scheduling to II shouldn't create any greater problem. So I don't see how this would be an issue? Maybe I'm just not seeing it?
 

GroErr

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Everything I've read about AUMA is sounding exactly where the Canadian legalization initiative Is headed, control and taxes, no room for the little guy, corporate MJ for a few connected players with big pockets and taxes for the various levels of government.. This model is exclusive and less beneficial overall than an open market, small business creates the largest number of jobs on both sides of the border and open markets create more competition.

It's not legalization, that's not what we've been fighting for so many years. Yes, some would say it's better than getting your door pounded but to me that's a defeatists attitude.

The good news is that with everyone taking a cut in this corporate "legalized" market, there should be plenty of room for the BM, just a different version of it.

I don't grow for profit and rarely sell any of what I grow, but many do and it's been their primary income for many years. To essentially shut them down because they can't afford to play in the new corporate sandbox is just f'n wrong and will just create more tension and legal issues for years to come. Do it right or don't do it at all. Rant over.
 

curious2garden

Well-Known Mod
Staff member
rescheduleing to 2 or 3 marijuana ends recreational pot.....period
When the psychoactive ingredient in pot is already a Schedule 3 and we just legalized recreational in spite of that can you please explain how?

I don't sell. I only grow and breed. So possibly I don't understand the market forces at work so please enlighten me. Thanks
 

BobBitchen

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Prop. 64 will replace, repeal and supersede Prop. 215. Remember, Prop. 215 is a voter initiative. And under state law, there is only one way a voter inititaive can be changed, and that is with another voter inititative. And since Prop. 64 is also a voter initiative, and purports to regulate and tax “both nonmedical and medical marijuana” (Section 2B), Prop. 64 will unquestionably repeal Prop. 215.
 
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