Lighting for a 32"x32"x48"

Olive Drab Green

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The only pompous prick I've seen in this entire thread are each and everyone of the people coming on here saying "anything other than COB is a waste of money" get real man.

There are lighting solutions for every set of circumstance. I expressed that I am not going to spend $200+ ... I also expressed that I'm not going to build my own light. I've also expressed my concerns regarding temperature and still only one single post I'm this thread has actually offered any sort of valuable input with the link to the Meizhi light.

I would advise everyone else to read the concerns on future threads to actually offer valid input to address the concerns of the poster.
Unlike you, people actually want to yield shit. You'll be saving more buying COBs than you would anything else. You're the one worried about money. If this is the case, yes, anything other than COB is a waste of time.

You just think you can yield good and keep startup cheap at the same time and you can't. It's ok, though. You'll learn.

Putting you on ignore. Don't say I didn't tell you so later.
 

Olive Drab Green

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Between 1GPW (Yield typically aimed for with HPS) and 1.5-2.0 GPW (Yields achieved commonly with COBs), I dunno why any of you wouldn't spend $50-60 more than you would for an inefficient Vipar when you could yield what an HPS would bring you for less energy cost.
 

giantsfan24

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Well...that went to hell really quickly. lol

All I can really offer is my experience and that I'm moving to cob's due to cost savings in electricity, durability and environmental control. From everything I've studied over the past year and a half, it's the best choice. I'm a personal grower looking for a couple of ounces a year in a legal state.

Peace man! Good luck!
 

txponto

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Unlike you, people actually want to yield shit. You'll be saving more buying COBs than you would anything else. You're the one worried about money. If this is the case, yes, anything other than COB is a waste of time.

You just think you can yield good and keep startup cheap at the same time and you can't. It's ok, though. You'll learn.

Putting you on ignore. Don't say I didn't tell you so later.
Your ignorance is amusing at every turn. If I'm growing for myself alone, which is the case, then I don't need huge yields. As is using a handful of CFL's I'm yielding an ounce per harvest. I don't recall saying I was worried about money. What I said was that I am not going to spend $200+ on something when I don't need to. I do not care about electric costs, which I've explained. My concerns are simple.... I want to yield more than I am with CFL's. I am also concerned with ease and temperatures. I don't know why you can't just read what has been said and offer valuable input with the factors provided. I don't give a flying fuck about what cobs can do or have done. I've stated SEVERAL times that I am not going to invest $200+ nor am I going to fabricate my own light. Yet you continue to shove COB's down mine and everyone else's throat. Every post you have made on this thread and others is a somber reminder that some people are nothing more than pawns of commercialism. Be gone pest.
 

Yodaweed

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I'm struggling deciding on lighting for my space. I have been using CFL's in a fixture that I assembled. After 3 successful grows I want to upgrade a bit in hopes of some better yields. In each of my grows under mixed 2700k and 6000k 23watters I've managed right at an ounce each grow. Only 1 flowering plant at a time. I was thinking of just going with one of those blurples but there seems to be a lot of hate towards those and I'm not certain as to why. I'd be ok with a COB kit but for my space I think it's overkill and it doesn't seem economical based on the pricing I've found. I don't care about my electric costs. BUT with a space this small I'd rather not deal with HPS and the heats they put out.
I think for your space a quantum board type light would be best, they can help with height restricted grows , @robincnn and @Stephenj37826 would know more than me about it. They make prefabricated unit's like a nextlight mini, i think would be perfect for your area.


http://growershouse.com/nextlight-mini-led-grow-light

@NapalmD has a grow log using one .
 

txponto

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Well...that went to hell really quickly. lol

All I can really offer is my experience and that I'm moving to cob's due to cost savings in electricity, durability and environmental control. From everything I've studied over the past year and a half, it's the best choice. I'm a personal grower looking for a couple of ounces a year in a legal state.

Peace man! Good luck!
I can respect your choice, but it isn't the solution for me. I'm already harvesting a few ounces a year. I'm just looking to bump that up some without having to build my own shit or invest so heavily. Like I've said I know there are other options yet I'm still being pressured into something I've said I do not want nor am I comfortable with.
 

Olive Drab Green

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Well...that went to hell really quickly. lol

All I can really offer is my experience and that I'm moving to cob's due to cost savings in electricity, durability and environmental control. From everything I've studied over the past year and a half, it's the best choice. I'm a personal grower looking for a couple of ounces a year in a legal state.

Peace man! Good luck!
You are probably going to end up with way more than a couple. Probably a few pounds a year, more like.
 

Ganjineer

Member
Given your up-front cost constraints, dislike of diy, and apathy towards electricity cost I'd say the HPS with a cool tube to help with the heat will be an adequate solution for you. It'll get the job done just like you want. You'll be happy with the results.

I will add the caveat that LEDs are the future of lighting. More light for less power is the name of the game and COBs are a simple way to achieve that. The folks in this thread are trying to help you look outside of upfront cost when making a decision that will impact your grows and yield for the next year or two. But as you said, it's not an option, so you've solved the problem yourself!
 

Olive Drab Green

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Given your up-front cost constraints, dislike of diy, and apathy towards electricity cost I'd say the HPS with a cool tube to help with the heat will be an adequate solution for you. It'll get the job done just like you want. You'll be happy with the results.

I will add the caveat that LEDs are the future of lighting. More light for less power is the name of the game and COBs are a simple way to achieve that. The folks in this thread are trying to help you look outside of upfront cost when making a decision that will impact your grows and yield for the next year or two. But as you said, it's not an option, so you've solved the problem yourself!
Exactly this. Thank you.
 

txponto

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Given your up-front cost constraints, dislike of diy, and apathy towards electricity cost I'd say the HPS with a cool tube to help with the heat will be an adequate solution for you. It'll get the job done just like you want. You'll be happy with the results.

I will add the caveat that LEDs are the future of lighting. More light for less power is the name of the game and COBs are a simple way to achieve that. The folks in this thread are trying to help you look outside of upfront cost when making a decision that will impact your grows and yield for the next year or two. But as you said, it's not an option, so you've solved the problem yourself!
I'm not oblivious to the fact that COB are cheaper on the energy aspect and can perform really well. The cost and the DIY aspect of them are determining factors that have closed that door. At least for the foreseeable future. I have seen "COB Panels" on Amazon that on paper look like they would be pretty good for my space and how I grow, I don't know if anyone on these boards has used them or if they are in fact junk. I have seen grow journals for the 300w blurples that give me hope that they would provide what I am looking for. Yet nobody has given input on them beyond "save $50 and get COB"(even after I have flat out rejected the cost and DIY aspect of them.

I've given the highest amount of cash I am willing to throw at upgrading my lights yet every poster continues to say get this or get that which in some cases is SEVERAL hundred more than what I've stated I will spend. Not every grower is out to grow the biggest baddest bitch they can. What I have grown under CFL's has been nothing short of some great smoke. It has been better than what I was able to buy at $20 a g.

Just because some growers are willing to spend the upfront cash on some of these lighting systems does not mean every single grower out there is willing to do that. It is nothing more than a hobby and in the process has saved me a great deal of cash that has paid for vacations and such.

If anyone has any interest in actually helping me to make this decision then please do. But if your suggestion is COB or some DIY thing then please just do us both a favor and resist the urge to post that.
 

Ganjineer

Member
I'm not oblivious to the fact that COB are cheaper on the energy aspect and can perform really well. The cost and the DIY aspect of them are determining factors that have closed that door. At least for the foreseeable future. I have seen "COB Panels" on Amazon that on paper look like they would be pretty good for my space and how I grow, I don't know if anyone on these boards has used them or if they are in fact junk. I have seen grow journals for the 300w blurples that give me hope that they would provide what I am looking for. Yet nobody has given input on them beyond "save $50 and get COB"(even after I have flat out rejected the cost and DIY aspect of them.

I've given the highest amount of cash I am willing to throw at upgrading my lights yet every poster continues to say get this or get that which in some cases is SEVERAL hundred more than what I've stated I will spend. Not every grower is out to grow the biggest baddest bitch they can. What I have grown under CFL's has been nothing short of some great smoke. It has been better than what I was able to buy at $20 a g.

Just because some growers are willing to spend the upfront cash on some of these lighting systems does not mean every single grower out there is willing to do that. It is nothing more than a hobby and in the process has saved me a great deal of cash that has paid for vacations and such.

If anyone has any interest in actually helping me to make this decision then please do. But if your suggestion is COB or some DIY thing then please just do us both a favor and resist the urge to post that.
I understand, but I did give you a suggestion. I said you'll get the results you want from an HPS with a cool tube.
 

txponto

Well-Known Member
Exactly this. Thank you.
I would like to take just a moment to point out that in July 2016 this guy was able to post objectively about the very same light I mentioned. Now 5 months later is shoving cobs down my throat. It's almost as if people on these boards are being given something of monetary value to endorse these things.

This was posted by Olive drab green

https://www.rollitup.org/t/viparspectra-300watt-led-micro-grow-tent.904280/page-2#post-12638434

"Yeah, I've been, like.. The first guy to kind of take a chance with this brand so far, and I had a few reservations at first, but it's coming through, man. Despite everyone trying to tell me "No, man! Don't take a chance with that!" But yeah, it works. Waiting on my second 450 and I'll have something like a 900w-1000w setup for 412w. Now, TastyLED's T1-2100 costs like, 210, and it puts out 60 more micromols at 24" for 78w, so there are much more efficient and refined instruments out there. BUT! ViparSpectra works and is a good low-cost economy option for what it gives you. So have no fear."
 
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txponto

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Wow... Just a question guys, how loud is the viparspectra? In Db? Thinking of upgrading from my Cfls
Taken off of Amazon for the 450w panel.

Question:
How loud is the fan?
Answer:
The fans are very quiet . You have to pay attention to hear them .
By Aaron Greene on August 21, 2016
You won't be able to hear it. Super quiet.
By Amazon Customer on August 21, 2016
They are pretty quiet. But noticeable.
By Dave feger on August 21, 2016
Negligible.
By Punchy McKickass on August 24, 2016
The fans are audible but not too loud.
By J. G. Greenberg on August 22, 2016
 
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