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List of clubs that rip off vendors in Cali

Discussion in 'California Patients' started by Dan Kone, Jul 22, 2012.

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    hairdog

    hairdog New Member

     
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    hairdog

    hairdog New Member

    Well im a " someone" who knew them prior to santa cruz and have been taken for more than any monetary value can cover...im new to this forum and dont know how to send a 1 on 1 message ....i shouldve googled him way back when too.....
     
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    hairdog

    hairdog New Member

    Im here to tell you that no he does not mean well..
     
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    Digital Man

    Digital Man New Member

    No argument here .............. I'm not defending the guy. The end of the line is in sight for him ........... he's either gonna do some time and/or his shop is going to be shut down would be my guess.
     
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    OmennemO

    OmennemO Member

    Great advice! I no longer deal with any dispensaries or clubs of any kind. There just isn't enough profit in it for me considering the expense, lower payout, and potential troubles.

    Concerning good ole Jeffrey David Sudman, he uses alias's JD Black, Jeffrey Black, etc. So trying to find his history is kinda improbable, until I found this thread. And when I learned that he is a convicted pedophile, that really got to me. I remember Jeffrey smiling at me (and I shaking that creeps hand), 'my handshake is my agreement, you have nothing worry about' were his exact words. Then that turd took me for over 5k. Not a huge amount, but it was from my first grow and it hurt, couldn't even cover my start up costs until the next run. And he's done a few interviews, and reporters in Santa Cruz seem to love the guy and his shady dispensary. Does anyone bother doing any journalistic research on their subjects?
    http://www.kionrightnow.com/news/local-news/masked-suspects-rob-santa-cruz-county-pot-shops/31447942
    http://www.kionrightnow.com/news/lo...over-santa-cruz-county-cannabis-laws/33741108

    Every time I see a new article I send the reporter the links and materials I've collected on the guy, sometimes I've even called them.

    http://www.meganslaw.ca.gov/
    Follow the links and use his birth name Jeffrey Sudman

    I appears he had his name removed from the corporation wiki, he was listed as as the Granny Purps president. In interviews he proclaims to be the Granny Purps CEO
    http://www.corporationwiki.com/California/Soquel/granny-purps-inc/66549437.aspx


    Let Jeffrey burn in jail and then hell, for what he's done, and the people and kids he's harmed!
     
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    dllpot

    dllpot Member


    weird I dont see how to send PM either. I would sure be curious to know myself. Was screwed over big time by them and by a lot more money that I see anyone mentioning. I know at one point he said he owed like 700K to vendors and over 500K to the state. That was years ago too. Used it as an excuse like I should feel sorry for him lol......
     
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    Herb_Potent

    Herb_Potent Member

    I just wanna sell my tree at the farmers market. Thats freedom. Don't think this upcoming legalization is freedom guys. Unfortunately these problems are going to get worse with all the imposed taxes.
     
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    Digital Man

    Digital Man New Member

    Many things will ............ this doesn't HAVE to be one of them. What bodes well in the case of growers/suppliers of any product ..... if the state has it's way, you won't be able to sell through into a dispensary anymore so the days of dealing with these retard club owners will be a thing of the past. Instead you will deal with one or two distributors ..... these distributors will now shoulder the responsibility of collecting from these guys ..... not you. Personally ............. if I NEVER have to step foot in a dispensary again, I'll be happy as a clam.

    As far as you being able to sell a tree at a Farmer's Market ..... never gonna happen. You're only able to do what you do now because the state needs the tax money. 20 years ago, people wished/dreamed these days would come. Guess it's never good enough for some.
     
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    Herb_Potent

    Herb_Potent Member

    Yea the dispensaries are overpriced as it is. It is just going to get worse with all the added taxes on top of a middle man wanting his cut. Have fun being satisfied with your regulation.
     
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    Digital Man

    Digital Man New Member

    LOL ........ I couldn't care less what dispensaries charge . I'm only concerned about getting paid for my products.... which will probably cease being a concern once the state takes over. You are obviously a patient/customer. This thread is about how not to get ripped off as a provider. I'm sure there's several threads out there for people that wish to vent about taxes.
     
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    Herb_Potent

    Herb_Potent Member

    The taxes start with the grower you know that right. Growers will be taxed. 17 different licenses are going to be implemented. You will have to pay for any of those based on what your doing. Growing. Selling. Buying. Transporting. Cooking. Extracting. Have you read anything about the laws being passed?
     
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    Herb_Potent

    Herb_Potent Member

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    Digital Man

    Digital Man New Member

    I've read AB-266 at least 5 times. I know what's involved. You forgot to mention the 12 different state agencies that will have a hand in this as well. Yes it's likely going to be a disaster but eventually they'll get it worked out. If they can pull this off in states like Colorado and Washington ........ it can get done here. Here the liquor business will be the model and that's fine with me. I'll deal with 3 buyers and sell 25 times the volume. What I lose in margins I'll make up in volume. That's how business works. You want to sell door to door or you want to sell into Safeway? Licenses aren't going to cost much IMO for growers and manufacturers. Small price to pay to stop looking over my shoulder and stop dealing with dispensaries.
     
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    Digital Man

    Digital Man New Member

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    Rusty Shakelford

    Rusty Shakelford Active Member

    Your not going to get a state licence unless you are legal in your local jurisdiction. This mean if you are in a city that has banned dispensaries and wont issue you a business licence, the state wont even talk to you. So its back into the black market for most of us. Lets all thank the state for helping us out after Creating our Non Profit, Getting a FEIN and collecting sales tax for all those years, just to get kicked to the curb.
     
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    Digital Man

    Digital Man New Member

    That's correct but this only becomes an obstacle if you let it. I'm a manufacturer for example .......... I'll simply get a license in a city where they will have me.
     
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    Herb_Potent

    Herb_Potent Member

    Agreed man good move. I wish you the best too.
     
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    Rusty Shakelford

    Rusty Shakelford Active Member

    Easier said than done. For example Unincorporated San Diego does not require a Business License, but you need to get approval from the Sheriffs dept. That requires you find a building that is in an Industrial Zone, and 1000 feet from Schools, Residence, Church, and just about everything else, so the available properties are few and have been taken. I would imagine this is pretty standard through most counties. You could find a Blank Piece of Property out in the Middle of nowhere, but the cost for building construction, bringing water and power to the property, etc, etc, etc,, is prohibitive.
     
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    Herb_Potent

    Herb_Potent Member

    Bro he's just gonna uproot his entire life and business and possibly family and go to an area that let's him operate legally it's so easy what are you talking about
     
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    Digital Man

    Digital Man New Member

    I'm in NorCal ........ there's plenty of cities nearby locally that allow what I'm going to be getting a license for. If you are in the retail side of things I can understand the concern but if you are a distributor or manufacturer .............. there will be plenty of options.
     
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