Lucky Luke
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Boveda packs don't effect the smell IMO. People just say that as an excuse I think.
losing my mind hay smell,no smell ect
see4
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shit. i didn't know that. and it totally makes sense. great advice.
john wishmyer
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its a bummer that everything is goes smoothly until post chop/smell dunno what im doing wrong mates, since my humidity was to wet a couple days ago left the jar open then closed next day found my humidity perfectly at 62, shame these things dont carry that amazing fruit smell when they were on the vine
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Cx2H
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Nah fux those things. You can do it better with out them. Drying is the real work of the game.what really! i just followed growweedeasy advise and purchased some for my my first harvest.
chemphlegm
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I read a grow bible, controlled a space for drying and put a tent in it.
perfect rh, temps, air flow scrubbed air too full time. Got an ac, dehuey, humidifier, base board heat.
My buds have super flavor and smells from harvest to exhale. They are ready smoke
in about 10 days, superb by 20, perfect flow, awesome burn, clean thick smoke exploding flavor.
they never ferment in a jar. Fermenting vegetable matter in a jar causes mold.
Mold ruins flavor, smells and effects.
I can overfeed for more (cabbage)weight, but then fermenting the buds to consume excess unused carbs will be
necessary, like curing sick buds I guess
perfect rh, temps, air flow scrubbed air too full time. Got an ac, dehuey, humidifier, base board heat.
My buds have super flavor and smells from harvest to exhale. They are ready smoke
in about 10 days, superb by 20, perfect flow, awesome burn, clean thick smoke exploding flavor.
they never ferment in a jar. Fermenting vegetable matter in a jar causes mold.
Mold ruins flavor, smells and effects.
I can overfeed for more (cabbage)weight, but then fermenting the buds to consume excess unused carbs will be
necessary, like curing sick buds I guess
GroErr
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Just a thought from a couple of comments you've posted including the last part "shame these things dont carry that amazing fruit smell when they were on the vine". If you're expecting that level of loudness dry/cured, that you get on the vine just before chopping, you'll be disappointed most of the time. Drying and curing them changes the smells and rarely do they match the loudness and specific smells you'll get when you're smelling fresh on-the-vine buds towards the end of the run.
I have a couple of phenos that match that smell/loudness, but most lose a good part of it and even completely change during the dry/cure...
john wishmyer
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what type of smells do you usually get? this is my first general grow just 6 plants all of em ready in 2s i havemt had one finished product that gives that ideal dank smell when you open the jar always hay tea kinda smell so fuckin lame man
DesertHydro
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it'll usually come back eventually. only had once or twice where i jarred too early and never really recovered.
i call bs on this. no offense and not trying to cause a shitstorm in the thread but ive had three different people tell me this lately. i think the key is to use them till its at the right level then take them out and seal it for the long term until needed.
charface
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I didn't want to get into the whole boveda thing because my data is all
Screwed up.
But I have used it a few times
First was just storage worked fine.
Then I went onto cure with it.
From memory?
First time it worked fine.
Next time it was a mess.
Took forever and the smells never fully
Came on.
I feel it was my fault for not drying enough before cramming the very large bovedas in large containers.
They never found balance.
Ultimately I threw them out and settled for what I got.
I still feel comfortable using them for storage but will have to do a side by side to see for sure if the boveda is messing with smell.
However I wont try to cure with them again. It may work for some but
Im afraid of it at this point
Screwed up.
But I have used it a few times
First was just storage worked fine.
Then I went onto cure with it.
From memory?
First time it worked fine.
Next time it was a mess.
Took forever and the smells never fully
Came on.
I feel it was my fault for not drying enough before cramming the very large bovedas in large containers.
They never found balance.
Ultimately I threw them out and settled for what I got.
I still feel comfortable using them for storage but will have to do a side by side to see for sure if the boveda is messing with smell.
However I wont try to cure with them again. It may work for some but
Im afraid of it at this point
DesertHydro
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i think theres dos and donts that we arent fully aware of yet lol
whitebb2727
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It makes a difference.
GroErr
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Most of what I run has fruity smells, lemon, blueberry while flowering. That usually changes, depends on the strain/pheno but a lot of mine that have strong fruit will turn more towards hash/kush flavours. Sometimes the fruit stays in the background but it changes from when it's first pulled/dried. I don't get the hay smells though with indoor. I have had it with outdoor when I harvested wet and dried too fast. That smell fades a bit with a cure but it's still there and changes the flavour for sure. Try slowing down the dry, run higher RH like 65% to slow it down, temps in the 65-70F range, works well for me. You want some airflow in the space/room but no direct air hitting them.
Squabblerz
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dry trim and make sure the bud is actually dry when you seal it up. moist buds will turn to hay semll and taste within a few hr's and it aint coming back if you do that. I look for the stem to break 50% of the way when folded over. if it just bends but doesn't break it's too wet to jar. if it breaks clean you're a little too dry but it's gonna taste 10 times better than jarring wet weed.
Lucky Luke
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No offence taken.
Its my first time using the packs and ive had them in jars for around 2 months and their has been no noticeable decline in smell. One jar will probably still be around for quiet some time (many, many months) so ill have more experienced views on them then. But they don't contain carbon and their in sealed jars, Boveda themselves say they don't effect smell, and being used for cigars for along time... Heres whats in them - https://maxcdn.bovedainc.com/msds/MSDS62.pdf
Have the people you spoke to used them to obtain the right RH or for storage (maintain the right RH)? Because they are meant for storage not as some magic cure pill as far as I'm aware.
A few things people seem to be unaware of with them. The RH of the buds have to be close to the RH of the packs. They wont make 80% RH buds 62%.
You need the correct weight of packs (or number of packs) per weight of product. (this can be found on their website but ill add it here for peoples reference. https://bovedainc.com/support/herbal/size-boveda-different-medicine-weight/)
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that was funny
ComfortCreator
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Im not going to comment on the other posts...ill just say you seem to be doing fine, and are observing the process and telling us what u see. What you describe is normal. You need to burp or even leave them out of the jar for an hour or 2 at a time...then back in the jar. Once you get an overnight RH reading of 65% or less, you are in the cure zone and can burp in the jars down to 62%.
Where you are stuck, imo, is lacking faith that your work will pay off. In fact you are following Nebulas process pretty well and you WILL get what you want, you arent there yet.
After picking, before dried to 65% or less, the smell can be ignored as long as it smells good. You are learning how it plays out. Have faith. You are doing fine. It will not smell like it did on the plant..but it will smell like when you squeeze it without doing the squeeze. Its not done yet. Follow her steps. Nothing wrong drying less than a week. There are many ways to get to a quality smooth finish.
Keep on your path, feel free to share.
Where you are stuck, imo, is lacking faith that your work will pay off. In fact you are following Nebulas process pretty well and you WILL get what you want, you arent there yet.
After picking, before dried to 65% or less, the smell can be ignored as long as it smells good. You are learning how it plays out. Have faith. You are doing fine. It will not smell like it did on the plant..but it will smell like when you squeeze it without doing the squeeze. Its not done yet. Follow her steps. Nothing wrong drying less than a week. There are many ways to get to a quality smooth finish.
Keep on your path, feel free to share.
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kovidkough
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necroooooo
BBQtoast
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Nebulas process is stupid.
ComfortCreator
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Im pretty sure it is the same as what most people do. In this thread the OP has it drying in the jars too wet. We can help him get it on track or argue....but what I see is....he did fine and doesn't know what to expect, nothing more or less.