Major difference bewteen "blackstrap" & general unsulphured molasses near harvest?

Cletus clem

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Don't some molasses also provide a good ratio of Ca and Mg? I used to use brer rabbit brand because of the high Ca and Mg. And would sulphered molasses do anything for terpene enhancement? I thought I read higher sulphur levels could bring them out. I only added it to teas and my compost piles, never directly to a pot.

Beer rabbit label.

Yeah, if properly digested. Which it wont be if watered into soil.
 

Cletus clem

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I hear ya. I say if it works well for you change nothing. Its all very subjective, from one user to another, so if you and yours love it you're doing it right.
I know that no matter what we add or trick to a plant will grow to its weakest resource. No matter how much nutrient is provided
for instance high temps will always adversely affect results and more of anything but the needed resource wont help that issue.

I like organic bio stim, and I know it occurs naturally in healthy compost so thats what I use. I got no knowledge about bottled ones, though I did use, until it was gone, two bags of beneficial bacteria(forgot the names), but havent for years. I saw no difference with the addition so I didnt continue. like when I add calcium, or sulphur, or anything now my plants fail. I think I'm at a sweet spot in soil.
Amino acids to chelate the calcium as well as open calcium ion channels. No nitrates and juuust enough k. If given the choice, she will take k all day. Nftg has a product called bloom khaos. Used as a foliar spray, it drives the plants hunger for calcium, So much to the point where if you dont supplement enough, you will see signs of deficiency overnight. Start using it a week before flower, then 2 weeks into as a foliar. Water in from there out. The lateral branching and bud site developement is unreal. Ive only just started using the bk, mostly because of the fear instilled by the owner of the company. I wanted to make sure i had my shit dialed in. It may work too good! IMG_1324.JPGThe 2 in the back are bodhi more cowbell (gsc fc x 88' g-13 hp) this cut takes alot of time and patience to develope what i like to see in a canopy. This is the first run with bk and it made my efforts look minuscule. No joke. Without it, i would be able to see straight through, even with scrog training. Under the screen turned into a free for all and all 4 i ended up having to prune back alot to keep things from getting ugly. Well see if it amounts to yield or spreads the same coat thinner. I also had 2 clones i had to take in flower that were taking a long time to recover and fill out. After a failed project, they were the only thing i had close enough to flower. Transplant, hammered with calcium and bk foliar did in a week what i had been working on for a month. Even if it dosnt translate to yield, its a definite shot in the arm with the added bonus of calcium hardiness.
 

whitebb2727

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Don't some molasses also provide a good ratio of Ca and Mg? I used to use brer rabbit brand because of the high Ca and Mg. And would sulphered molasses do anything for terpene enhancement? I thought I read higher sulphur levels could bring them out. I only added it to teas and my compost piles, never directly to a pot.

Beer rabbit label.

Yes. On top of which any decent carbohydrate at flower will help. It doesn't have to be molasses. Organic cane sugar works. The unprocessed brown stuff.

I use molasses. Only once after midway of flowering. I use far less than what people say to use. Half teaspoon per gallon.

I also use it and mighty spray any fresh soil I mixed and going to let sit for a bit.
 

OldAK-MTF907

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absolutely, but along with other stuff no dirt needs?

these same elements are available in a handful of compost, or rabbit poop, or all kinds of plant food items.
you hit it right on with "never directly to a pot"
Good stuff, as always I attempt to keep the beneficial parts, trash the useless/unecessary...(useless/unecessary are subjective as usual!) but I'm referring to the content of the comments and how they apply or benefit me and my grow. Anyway I agree with most of the "bottom line" info. In pretty much all of these reply's & comments & appreciate ALL of your input! On the behalf of great information recieved, I suppose I'll bid my digital adiue by saying (SO FAR!) EVERY GROW I've had the pleasure/priviledge of maintaining has been successful! The most recent few have definitely broke the proverbial mold in quality & aesthetics, hence my interest in picking experienced brains/1st hand techniques in hopes of collecting even small pieces of some "perfection formula", that I'm sure either doesn't exist, or exist's subjectively for many enthusiasts, on some level. Either way, in the right hands ANY info. is good info. (Imo) so I'll be around. Thanks again guys/gals!
 

OldAK-MTF907

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1506563320454-611104930.jpg1 of 3 (random bag seed strains!) that have reached the "finish line"! Kind of spicy with a fruity initial flavor and almost a 'cedar meets watermelon jolly rancher...!" aftertaste! Super pleased and so is my wife!
 

Cletus clem

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Good stuff, as always I attempt to keep the beneficial parts, trash the useless/unecessary...(useless/unecessary are subjective as usual!) but I'm referring to the content of the comments and how they apply or benefit me and my grow. Anyway I agree with most of the "bottom line" info. In pretty much all of these reply's & comments & appreciate ALL of your input! On the behalf of great information recieved, I suppose I'll bid my digital adiue by saying (SO FAR!) EVERY GROW I've had the pleasure/priviledge of maintaining has been successful! The most recent few have definitely broke the proverbial mold in quality & aesthetics, hence my interest in picking experienced brains/1st hand techniques in hopes of collecting even small pieces of some "perfection formula", that I'm sure either doesn't exist, or exist's subjectively for many enthusiasts, on some level. Either way, in the right hands ANY info. is good info. (Imo) so I'll be around. Thanks again guys/gals!
Right on. And great outlook. Always try to keep learning.
 

OldAK-MTF907

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Right on. And great outlook. Always try to keep learning.
Thats it man, exactly! In my professional career I decided years ago if it EVER starts to feel like "a job" or monotonous chore, or the day I feel I have no more to learn, I will head down to the local McDix & start flippin' fries & patties!
 

Jimmy Sparkle

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I have no idea if molasses works or not. I like it in some cookies but thats about all I know other than regular or "sulphured" molasses has no negligible effects on plants, actually plants do need some sulphur to remain healthy. Just sayin.
 

OldAK-MTF907

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I have no idea if molasses works or not. I like it in some cookies but thats about all I know other than regular or "sulphured" molasses has no negligible effects on plants, actually plants do need some sulphur to remain healthy. Just sayin.
Agreed fully. And I have added a bit (small tspn.) of unsulphured molasses to each gallon of water for my bigger plants in mostly organic, composted soil & in my personal experience it does keep the plants looking healthier in general.
 
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