Make it rain technique ?

whitebb2727 · Mar 9, 2017

Friction1957 said:
Ever hear of a flush? Basically the same thing, and yea, "were true then you would see the majority of farmers/growers doing it." so ummmm yea, a majority of people ARE doing it.

Flushing is not even the term. It is leeching. Farmers do it to remove salts from the soil.

I can assure you farmers are not flushing their crops before harvest. Lol!

homebrewer · Mar 9, 2017

DCobeen said:
well said. Oh your kali mist how long does it like to go in flower? I am not sure how long rm3 did his but man the high was a bit early with which way am i going kind of high. but I could still see why people spend so much time growing land races. I am gonna grow some for sure as the high was fun and it kept me up all night. I would love to smoke some that is grown the distance. and will as I do believe I got some not sure if pure Kali mist or whatever it was. I will look in my seeed bank and see.

My f1 kali mist mom goes 100-110 days. Duck helped me dial in a good window for her. The f2s that I'm going through right now are a bit varied but the ones with the most potential (in my opinion) are going to go a minimum of 90-100 days. I think one will go 115ish? We'll see.

whitebb2727 · Mar 9, 2017

Mrs.medgrower said:
I do understand your negative attitude while defending your friends, that's what friends do even if their friends may be wrong. However what gives you the right to attempt to quote me? You failed, I did not love your stuff! ! As a matter of fact the stuff I smoked at your house made me vomit by the time we got to the mall. Maybe you're not as of a grower as you thought. Although I don't agree with many of your friends techniques if it works in their environments great for them.(many pictures however show differently) What we have in our plants environment works amazing as Mr. Medgrower has proven time and time again. There is nothing wrong with using the soil we use, it's what is made for. The results are proof of that. I personally think
adding kitty litter to your soil is stupid, if it works for your friend great. We have tried other medium, but ocean forest works for us.

If our stuff was so average why were you at my house asking for it? The stuff you left for us was less then pleasing, sorry hun but I couldn't give it away. It sat there for like 3 weeks.

So far the CH9 plants have been my favorite. I have been open to the others. The CH9 pants are fixing my health issues, I love the taste and overall effects. My doctor was floored on the reduction of my cysts by 40% in 6 months. She said it was almost like looking at someone else's ultrasound.

I don't get this whole make it rain technique, (the natureofthisthread right? ) In nature if you took that small of a section of earth with a plant the size of the pot you use and it rained the equal inches to what is poured into the buckets it would drown them and directly effect your results. (Like when the orchards get a season with to heavy of rains ) These were my experiences with my friends who lived on farms.

Say what you want, but please never misquote me again it makes you lose credibility.

L O fucking L

Med grower cant even stand on his own two feet. Has to have his wife fight his battles for him.

Mrs.medgrower · Mar 9, 2017

whitebb2727 said:
L O fucking L

Med grower cant even stand on his own two feet. Has to have his wife fight his battles for him.

He can fight his own battles. I didn't get involved until DC brought me into it. I stood up for myself. I guess you boys don't know what a strong woman looks like. I had every right to be mad that DC lied about what I said, and didn't bother explaining why I was banned.

Are you sad that you don't have a sweet girl that has your back like I have my mans? I guess that's why we have been together for 8 1/2 years because together we thrive. He has always had my back why shouldn't I have his?

MichiganMedGrower · Mar 9, 2017

whitebb2727 said:
L O fucking L

Med grower cant even stand on his own two feet. Has to have his wife fight his battles for him.

You belong with the riddlers white. You still choose your investment like I said about you. . I'm right here. You talk of me in the third person to my wife like a bitch.

Can't you see the amount of lying they do to protect their pathetic leader of amature hobbyists yet?

How can you be a farmer and believe any of rids silly crap has merit?

And I ask again. You saw pics of his garden and scrawny buds and thought this is a guy I want to invest money in.

That's the big lol here.

thenotsoesoteric · Mar 9, 2017

Lol. This thread has a back story I'm missing. I thought this was a discussion on a growing technique? Guess it's a rip MMG a new asshole kind of thread. :roll:

Anyway back to the MIR technique. I totally understand stand the concept of allowing excess runoff when watering/feeding plants in containers to avoid salt build up. I grow in Tupur mix and typically allow some runoff each feeding but when I mention "flushing" I'm talking about the ritual of people applying way too much fertilizer during the grow and then trying to "flush" the plants out with water for the last two weeks.

Sure when I first started I did it because Ed, Jorge and the High times crew all told me to do it, high times especially and they want you to do it with some pricey product from a sponsor, but over the years I learned how to actually grow plants, not weed.

Before I would run 2000 ppm and evener higher, my plants always looked good through veg but then in flower they'd start looking shitty and would taste like chemical waste. Years go by I decided to take several veteran growers advice and reduce nutrient concentration down by nearly 2/3. I typically veg at between 200-500 ppm and flower at 400-600 ppm and my buds are much beefier and the taste is night and day. If you're running co2 at 85F then the plants can metabolize 2000 ppm of fertilizer but otherwise you're pissing money down the tube. Never had to bother with a final flush since.

The thing I'm having a hard time justifying is the claim that drowning the plant will in turn excel growth rates. I have personally grown plants that I had watered too much compared to the rest of the crop and those plants drooped and were affected negatively by it and definitely 100% fell behind the rest of the crop never to catch back up. Nutrient lock out occurred, it took the plants a week or more to dry out and stunted their growth with no point of accelerated growth afterward.

thenotsoesoteric · Mar 9, 2017

homebrewer said:
Think hydro. My hydro plants get flooded 3x/day. The medium (rockwool) is breathable and dries quickly. Every time F&D hydro plants get flooded they get fed. The growth rates are insane. I applied that same line of thinking to the container side of my garden but tweaks needed to be made or else I'd drown my plants. I needed to formulate a more breathable promix blend and I also needed more ways for air to get into my pots. Why would you want to water everyday? Because in the right environment and supporting factors, you'll get a higher level of performance out of your plants. Coco growers with blumat systems have the right idea.

I agree with you. I don't leach my medium because I feed light enough and water to runoff. I think 'make it rain' is a different thing that probably works well in his more arid climate. Keep in mind his humidity level is a lot lower than yours in the midwest. If you made it rain you'd end up with root rot given your medium.

I only challenged him to a weed test because I was skeptical of some of the claims he made. But in his defense he also harvested something too soon and didn't cure before making those potency claims. The cure is very important, so is harvesting on time, and both can have a dramatic affect on potency. We also have different taste in herb but that doesn't mean that I have any less respect for him as a grower. He grows healthy plants and has a unique approach. Take what you like and leave the rest? Take Subcool for example. I'm not a huge fan of his online persona but that dude can grow. I'm not an organic guy but there are takeaways everywhere if we are open-minded enough.

Said with class, rep+.

whitebb2727 · Mar 9, 2017

Mrs.medgrower said:
He can fight his own battles. I didn't get involved until DC brought me into it. I stood up for myself. I guess you boys don't know what a strong woman looks like. I had every right to be mad that DC lied about what I said, and didn't bother explaining why I was banned.

Are you sad that you don't have a sweet girl that has your back like I have my mans? I guess that's why we have been together for 8 1/2 years because together we thrive. He has always had my back why shouldn't I have his?

Awwwwww. That's sweet.

Fyi, I have a strong woman that I've been married to for 14 years.

She doesn't fight my battles for me. Of course I don't go around doing dumb sit like putting my personal info online then getting tore up when it gets leaked. If that's what really what happened.

I read emails. Personally I think you guys lost a customer to rm3. I also think you guys are running amateur hour.

Keep trying. You guys will get there one day.

One last thing, I see you are just like your man. Your argument doesn't stand on its own so you have to resort to personal retorts.

whitebb2727 · Mar 9, 2017

MichiganMedGrower said:
You belong with the riddlers white. You still choose your investment like I said about you. . I'm right here. You talk of me in the third person to my wife like a bitch.

Can't you see the amount of lying they do to protect their pathetic leader of amature hobbyists yet?

How can you be a farmer and believe any of rids silly crap has merit?

And I ask again. You saw pics of his garden and scrawny buds and thought this is a guy I want to invest money in.

That's the big lol here.

Lets get one thing straight.

I'm not the dumbass that put personal info online. I also haven't talked to rm3 in months. I use very few of his techniques except for the t5's.

A bitch I am not. Who is the one on here been crying for months? Oh, that's right, its you.

You nor your wife have the intellectual acuity to make an actual argument so you call names.

Yes, I bought a couple packs of beans from rm3 to see for myself.

Go ahead I already know the response;

Blah blah blah, cry cry cry, blah blah blah, cry cry cry, name call.

Have a good one wallowing in your self pity.

MichiganMedGrower · Mar 9, 2017

whitebb2727 said:
Lets get one thing straight.

I'm not the dumbass that put personal info online. I also haven't talked to rm3 in months. I use very few of his techniques except for the t5's.

A bitch I am not. Who is the one on here been crying for months? Oh, that's right, its you.

You nor your wife have the intellectual acuity to make an actual argument so you call names.

Yes, I bought a couple packs of beans for rm3 to see for myself.

Go ahead I already know the response;

Blah blah blah, cry cry cry, blah blah blah, cry cry cry, name call.

Have a good one wallowing in your self pity.

Like I said regardless of facts you stay invested and avoid every question.

And I hope you feel better telling off my wonderful woman. She is independent and I don't tell her what or what not to do. She got mad at D.C. For being the lying self fantasizing jerk he really is and you went and instigated her. He even used her real name white.

You have made up your own mind and facts here. But even a re read of what has been written shows who is butt hurt and has an agenda.

I find all you invested babies entertaining. It's funny you all think I am still mad from months ago. D.C. Is cop bait and his leader is a fraud selling overbred mids. And a rat.

And I was told the personal info was deleted months ago anyway. By D.C. He was not supposed to tell me. The ass in charge would never admit he went and did the right thing after he brought all this on himself.

Did you have a comment on the amazing make it rain technique?

whitebb2727 · Mar 9, 2017

MichiganMedGrower said:
Like I said regardless of facts you stay invested and avoid every question.

And I hope you feel better telling off my wonderful woman. She is independent and I don't tell her what or what not to do. She got mad at D.C. For being the lying self fantasizing jerk he really is and you went and instigated her. He even used her real name white.

You have made up your own mind and facts here. But even a re read of what has been written shows who is butt hurt and has an agenda.

I find all you invested babies entertaining. It's funny you all think I am still mad from months ago. D.C. Is cop bait and his leader is a fraud selling overbred mids. And a rat.

And I was told the personal info was deleted months ago anyway. By D.C. He was not supposed to tell me. The ass in charge would never admit he went and did the right thing after he brought all this on himself.

Did you have a comment on the amazing make it rain technique?

Do I have a comment on make it rain. Yes. If you would reread you would know that I said I think its silly.

I will say one thing though. The most potent plants I ever had were stressed or stunted. I don't know why. Not saying all stunted or stressed plants are good.

I'm not invested at all. Hell all kinds of people make fun of rm3. I rarely say anything.

Look man. You were the one that got into dealing drugs. Don't give me the its quasi legal state thing. Its federally illegal. Its still a black market. You decided to put your personal shit up on a website.

Yea I like rm3 and all but you don't see me putting my info up there. Don't be surprised when you meet rats, thieves and crazies when dealing drugs.

Put your big boy pants on and accept you have a part in this shit and if you followed a few simple rules you wouldn't have this problem.

Now to your wife. I meant no disrespect. Who gives a flying fuck about some strangers on the net say? You mean to tell me you guys got so rattled that she went through the trouble of making a new account to respond.

I'm sure your wife is a wonderful person. You need to do a better job of protecting her. Yea dude was wrong for using her name but lets break this down.

You have some crazy mofo from the net that not only knows your name but where you live.

Come on use your fucking head. Never, never, NEVER crap where you sleep. Don't deal from home or where you grow. Don't meet new people at your house. Meet them out somewhere. don't use your real name.

Hell I've had mail correspondence with people from here. They have a fake name and sent to an empty house.

Once again, no hard feelings. You aren't cut out to do this shit. Now, quit fucking around and make a list of rules never to break. Include those I mentioned.

According to you, you let a crazy disrespectful person in your house. What if the next one just wants to rob you and leave you and your wife for dead?

Grow up and do some thinking for once.

Have a good one. I'm done.

DCobeen · Mar 9, 2017

Mrs.medgrower said:
Why did I get banned? Oh yeah because I suggested that one of your buddies gets his plant off the cold basement floor. Instead of taking my advise he had me banned for spam. You even admitted to my face in my house that he was wrong for that. I was very nice to you and you just go and drag my name in the dirt. Who gave you the right? As you should have noticed I don't always share Mr. views on things but what you just did sure makes me share his view on you. I'm disappointed that I allowed you in my home. However I am glad that I met your girl, she is sweet. How did she end up with a 2faced jerk like you? I started my RIU account to share my knowledge as well as see others views on horticulture, this crap makes me want to just sick to cosmetology forums. This seems to be more of a penis competition than a place to learn.

Oh why you got to go there. I didnt say anything bad about you. You are lost and that is why you keep trying to leave. If you stay where you are then you soul will turn and you will loose yourself. Look inside and you know I am telling you what you already know. You decided to be with a negative person.I feel him sucking the life out of you. he has nothing good to say about anyone but himself. Think feel and listen to yourself and you know it is true.

DCobeen · Mar 9, 2017

@whitebb2727 very sound and great advise. Its a bit more personal as I know him and I tried to help him but he wouldn't listen except a few growing tips. I gave up when he talked smack about Classic and then months later keeps bashing growers/breeders who can run circles around him. I do feel sorry for his GF not wife as I know she feels trapped as I have looked in her eyes. Tiss sad but true. Anyway you have a level head and sound advise.

whitebb2727 · Mar 9, 2017

DCobeen said:
@whitebb2727 very sound and great advise. Its a bit more personal as I know him and I tried to help him but he wouldn't listen except a few growing tips. I gave up when he talked smack about Classic and then months later keeps bashing growers/breeders who can run circles around him. I do feel sorry for his GF not wife as I know she feels trapped as I have looked in her eyes. Tiss sad but true. Anyway you have a level head and sound advise.

Thank you.

I tried working with a buddy of mine. Fucking one plant later he is telling me what I'm doing wrong and the bud he gave me was all leaf. I mixed some soil that would take him all the way through flower and he still insisted on putting large amounts of nitrogen to it.

I have no doubt your meeting was with respect.

I've got the dude pegged. Never wrong, the best at everything. One upper. Twist the narrative to fit.

Some people just aren't cut out for this.

If dude would listen a little it would go a long ways.

I grew up on a military base. My best friend growing up dad was special forces. Bad ass mofo. He was going to a local rinky dink shooting event with local law enforcement. I asked him why because he could out shoot anyone there. He told me to be humble and always be a sponge. If you go into something thinking you know everything then you will learn nothing.

Yes, I've told that several times here. I guess it stuck with me. It made sense.

DCobeen · Mar 9, 2017

whitebb2727 said:
Thank you.

I tried working with a buddy of mine. Fucking one plant later he is telling me what I'm doing wrong and the bud he gave me was all leaf. I mixed some soil that would take him all the way through flower and he still insisted on putting large amounts of nitrogen to it.

I have no doubt your meeting was with respect.

I've got the dude pegged. Never wrong, the best at everything. One upper. Twist the narrative to fit.

Some people just aren't cut out for this.

If dude would listen a little it would go a long ways.

I grew up on a military base. My best friend growing up dad was special forces. Bad ass mofo. He was going to a local rinky dink shooting event with local law enforcement. I asked him why because he could out shoot anyone there. He told me to be humble and always be a sponge. If you go into something thinking you know everything then you will learn nothing.

Yes, I've told that several times here. I guess it stuck with me. It made sense.

Michigan taught me to be humble and to learn plants inside and out so they can survive a hostile grow environment which many strains couldnt handle but I would not knock any of them or the breeders. I did what I set out to do and grow a happy plant start to finish in MI and will take this knowledge and share it when its needed and those willing to listen and take what they need from it. Every grow room is diff and there is no set way. I like how you think and you sound like your head is on straight. Keep growing while your growing is my new motto.

MichiganMedGrower · Mar 10, 2017

whitebb2727 said:
Do I have a comment on make it rain. Yes. If you would reread you would know that I said I think its silly.

I will say one thing though. The most potent plants I ever had were stressed or stunted. I don't know why. Not saying all stunted or stressed plants are good.

I'm not invested at all. Hell all kinds of people make fun of rm3. I rarely say anything.

Look man. You were the one that got into dealing drugs. Don't give me the its quasi legal state thing. Its federally illegal. Its still a black market. You decided to put your personal shit up on a website.

Yea I like rm3 and all but you don't see me putting my info up there. Don't be surprised when you meet rats, thieves and crazies when dealing drugs.

Put your big boy pants on and accept you have a part in this shit and if you followed a few simple rules you wouldn't have this problem.

Now to your wife. I meant no disrespect. Who gives a flying fuck about some strangers on the net say? You mean to tell me you guys got so rattled that she went through the trouble of making a new account to respond.

I'm sure your wife is a wonderful person. You need to do a better job of protecting her. Yea dude was wrong for using her name but lets break this down.

You have some crazy mofo from the net that not only knows your name but where you live.

Come on use your fucking head. Never, never, NEVER crap where you sleep. Don't deal from home or where you grow. Don't meet new people at your house. Meet them out somewhere. don't use your real name.

Hell I've had mail correspondence with people from here. They have a fake name and sent to an empty house.

Once again, no hard feelings. You aren't cut out to do this shit. Now, quit fucking around and make a list of rules never to break. Include those I mentioned.

According to you, you let a crazy disrespectful person in your house. What if the next one just wants to rob you and leave you and your wife for dead?

Grow up and do some thinking for once.

Have a good one. I'm done.

None of what you wrote is really what happened at all. And none of your tips about crime even apply here.

It's like you missed everything I actually said about all of this and only comprehend the mis direction and your own thoughts about it.

Thank goodness you are finally done. You never contributed even a little understanding in this matter.

But nice story to tell your aspiring drug dealing nephew or something.......

MichiganMedGrower · Mar 10, 2017

DCobeen said:
Oh why you got to go there. I didnt say anything bad about you. You are lost and that is why you keep trying to leave. If you stay where you are then you soul will turn and you will loose yourself. Look inside and you know I am telling you what you already know. You decided to be with a negative person.I feel him sucking the life out of you. he has nothing good to say about anyone but himself. Think feel and listen to yourself and you know it is true.

You should not have continued your shit about me and my woman D.C. You have crossed the line here and I was leaving your dumb ass alone. I never said anything about you until you had to make things personal right here in this thread pretending to defend someone else lying about your own achievements.

Well I did tell Rm3 back when you made me and the Mrs. mold sick with your moldy weed.

Now you have faked your way into actual trouble again.

And what you just said will be with you forever. You will never ever get over it. ;-)

MichiganMedGrower · Mar 10, 2017

DCobeen said:
@whitebb2727 very sound and great advise. Its a bit more personal as I know him and I tried to help him but he wouldn't listen except a few growing tips. I gave up when he talked smack about Classic and then months later keeps bashing growers/breeders who can run circles around him. I do feel sorry for his GF not wife as I know she feels trapped as I have looked in her eyes. Tiss sad but true. Anyway you have a level head and sound advise.

And you repeated it as if you are going to be fine. Lol.

MichiganMedGrower · Mar 10, 2017

whitebb2727 said:
Thank you.

I tried working with a buddy of mine. Fucking one plant later he is telling me what I'm doing wrong and the bud he gave me was all leaf. I mixed some soil that would take him all the way through flower and he still insisted on putting large amounts of nitrogen to it.

I have no doubt your meeting was with respect.

I've got the dude pegged. Never wrong, the best at everything. One upper. Twist the narrative to fit.

Some people just aren't cut out for this.

If dude would listen a little it would go a long ways.

I grew up on a military base. My best friend growing up dad was special forces. Bad ass mofo. He was going to a local rinky dink shooting event with local law enforcement. I asked him why because he could out shoot anyone there. He told me to be humble and always be a sponge. If you go into something thinking you know everything then you will learn nothing.

Yes, I've told that several times here. I guess it stuck with me. It made sense.

And agreeing with the biggest fake here is what I said you would do all along.

Even the riddlers know the truth about D.C. There are threads on his fuck ups.

MichiganMedGrower · Mar 10, 2017

DCobeen said:
Michigan taught me to be humble and to learn plants inside and out so they can survive a hostile grow environment which many strains couldnt handle but I would not knock any of them or the breeders. I did what I set out to do and grow a happy plant start to finish in MI and will take this knowledge and share it when its needed and those willing to listen and take what they need from it. Every grow room is diff and there is no set way. I like how you think and you sound like your head is on straight. Keep growing while your growing is my new motto.

I gave you healthy 5 node clones that I harvested healthy and on time. I waited months. Never even saw a healthy pic or a bud to smoke despite sending pics of my clones growing to you and seeing you most every week so you actually had stock.

I gave you seedlings you said we're growing great. Never saw the plants again.

And the rest of your growing career has been the same. You never finish a Grow thread. Ever.

Shame you had to make this personal. I left you out of this online shit. You brought your own consequences on yourself.

Good luck. And you are literally the worst grower here. And you won't get it right. Even though this shit is easy. Well as easy as you make it.

Air injected dirt is not a thing. It only serves to disrupt the cec.

Make it rain technique ?

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