marijuana interfering with your medication?

Soo buddy, you're taking medication for vomiting nausia, and then another meant for depression and you're taking the for sleep?? Honestly bro, you wanna sleep? Eat some edibles. 80 - 120mg of an indica edible should be perfect and then smoke a bowl half hour later.

I tey to get all my patients off pills (if possible) and they love it! Drop the pills,they're the problem. I've got multiple patients with, crones, tumors, over active thyroid, patients on their death bed in chemo and honestly a strong edible has gotten them all to cut back to no pills or at least HALF! Trying contacting the CHEEBA CHEW company out of Colorado. They work with patients and have large doses in small tootsie rolls made from pharmaceutical grade hash oil. Thy come in sativa, indica, hybrid, and CBD. Also DAY DREAMERS CHOCOLATES out of want Cruz is effective with 180mg bars also in same selection as well as The BHANG BAR COMPANY.

i go to kaiser, and they're nothing but pill pushers. I think with the right strain you can achieve relief from those ailments, be it restlessness, insomnia, pain or a combination of. Try a heavy kush, or purple mix. TULE FOG (deep chunk x the haze) is my new go to. But a good BLACKBERRY has always been pretty Harvey for me, mix with an edible and GOODNIGHT!!

Any other questions please feel free to ask, I myself had the same issues as you and have since switch to solely edibles, wax, and flower as my night cap!
 
And did you notice the ITTY LITTLE BITTY DISCLAIMER at the top of that page you linked??

QUOTE "This information was prepared by the National Cannabis Prevention and Information Centre in Australia, and used with permission. Some information may not be accurate for U.S. readers" END QUOTE

CANNABIS PREVENTION of Australia.
 

LWD

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I know buddy, a lot of it is not all BS though, cannabis does have interactions with people who take anti-depressants and anti-psychotics. They just aren't trying to straight up prevent cannabis or maybe they are that evil who knows. As good as you may want it to sound some cannabis can exacerbate insomnia in users. Damn cannabis prevention, I should of known. While a majority of cannabis just works as good as you say. I'm just trying to understand why all the doctors think they have the info to want to link cannabis to induced psychosis for example. There's definitely something amiss, and not all sugar coated how you present it.
 

sunni

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what works for some might not work for others do not attack people who use prescription meds, you do not know their medical history do not play doctor with someones life because you think mj is the only known miracle plant that cures everything
everyones body is differently.
 

sunni

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on topic if you take like 10 dimenhydrinate and smoke mj you get electric shocks throughout your body not that you should be taking 10 dimendydrinate but anyways i had the experience while using it recreational when i was a drug addict, i than asked other people alone when they did it if it happened to them all 10 people said yes it was weird but never mentioned it interesting
 
I know buddy, a lot of it is not all BS though, cannabis does have interactions with people who take anti-depressants and anti-psychotics. They just aren't trying to straight up prevent cannabis or maybe they are that evil who knows. As good as you may want it to sound some cannabis can exacerbate insomnia in users. Damn cannabis prevention, I should of known. While a majority of cannabis just works as good as you say. I'm just trying to understand why all the doctors think they have the info to want to link cannabis to induced psychosis for example. There's definitely something amiss, and not all sugar coated how you present it.
Yes, I did know that. I also did say cannabis INDICA and CBD which actually reverse the effects of THC when It comes to psychosis in people already predisposed with that chemical imbalance/ mental disorder. Obvious, don't give someone psychotic something highly psychotic active.

Sorry to say its all money bro, no marijuana dispensary or company is partnered with an instituon. Doctors, pharmacys, government, medical pharmacy companies are all connected. Doctors are too comfortable to loose their jobs for someone to "smoke weed."

If people grow their own medicines, they shit on the doctors who prescribe said " medications" and the companies who produce them, they shit on Medicare and insurance who wants you to have to take medicine ata costs thousands f dollars a year so you THINK you need insurance to help pay for it. I don't know what is any of those pills and what the chemicals actually do, do you?

alao did you knife psyife

You know what's in the cannabis you grow and that your body is BORN with THC receptors.

Here's an article about chicken feed containing arsenic, WHICH IS TOXC TO HUMANS AND HOW THE COMPANY (Pfizer) WHO PRODUCES THE CHICKEN FEED IS THE SAME COMPANY THA MAKES VACCINES.

heres the article where the FDA admits to LYING about all this:

and the excerpt:
"But now the evidence is so undeniable that the manufacturer of the chicken feed product known as Roxarsone has decided to pull the product off the shelves (http://www.grist.org/food-safety/20…). And what’s the name of this manufacturer that has been putting arsenic in the chicken feed for all these years? Pfizer, of course — the very same company that makes vaccines containing chemical adjuvants that are injected into children."

http://intellihub.com/2013/07/21/fda-finally-admits-chicken-meat-contains-cancer-causing-arsenic/


IM not trying to be rude, I work with many patients in a collective. Im about the patients and about getting off chemical bulls hit IN marijuana and also in patients.
 
I have a sciatic nerv problem, slipped disc, and a problem with my L5 & L7 and I still sometimes need a Vickdin and a flexerol ON TOP OF my indica edibles but the cannabis has made such a difference in my quality of life.

I won't have liver problems from all the pills they give me like so many before, and I don't wake up in a drowsy angry mood feeling not myself and like a rude bastard. I wake up revived and happy. There's a difference between sleeping and being sedated! Don't forget that brother! Don't let them turn you to a zombie!
 

beuffer420

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When I took opiates there was times ganja did mask the effects of the opiate. There was also times though, I could smoke after my dose and shoot myself right into orbit.
 
When I took opiates there was times ganja did mask the effects of the opiate. There was also times though, I could smoke after my dose and shoot myself right into orbit.
Two Vic's and then a bowl about half hr later puts me out and I don't feel my back all nit, AND I STILL HAVE DREAMS!! I hate waking up feeling like I didn't sleep, like I close my eyes and wake up and it's morning :/ that sucks. I love enjoying the fun of my subconscious!!
 

BWG707

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what works for some might not work for others do not attack people who use prescription meds, you do not know their medical history do not play doctor with someones life because you think mj is the only known miracle plant that cures everything
everyones body is differently.
Very, very true! Cannabis has helped me use less pain meds, which is a huge plus. But if I had to choose just one or the other, I would reluctantly has to choose the pain meds. Cannabis just does pack enough pain relief properties in it. Maybe if I consumed massive amounts of cannabis it might help more but then I would be a walking zombie. I'd be smoking/eating cannabis 24/7. For some patients you can find a tolerable combination of both, it takes some experimenting and time but it can be done fairly easy. I know some patients that just can not tolerate cannabis- it's not for them. The same is true with all the different pain meds. Find what works with the least amount of side effects and try not to keep upping your dose.
 
Very, very true! Cannabis has helped me use less pain meds, which is a huge plus. But if I had to choose just one or the other, I would reluctantly has to choose the pain meds. Cannabis just does pack enough pain relief properties in it. Maybe if I consumed massive amounts of cannabis it might help more but then I would be a walking zombie. I'd be smoking/eating cannabis 24/7. For some patients you can find a tolerable combination of both, it takes some experimenting and time but it can be done fairly easy. I know some patients that just can not tolerate cannabis- it's not for them. The same is true with all the different pain meds. Find what works with the least amount of side effects and try not to keep upping your dose.
I find this to be an asinine statement.
"I know some patients who cannot tolerate cannabis." But does everyone tolerate opiates and perscription meds the same?? No, they start everyone off on the same dosage AND GUESS WHAT SOME PEOPLE CAN'T HANDLE THAT. Check the long term affects on your liver for taking opiates over 5 years.

20- 32 mg of cannabis has shown to be a true standard DOSE. Where as the average person body starts to respond to the active chemicals in the THC. And no, if you ingested cannabis at such a high rate to where you were a ZOMBIE you would sleeping. Pain meds make Zombies.

90% of people on opiates HATE IT and the rest are people addicted to the high, sorry but its true. I've never found one person who's takin opiates over 3 years straight and said they liked it for any other reason than they're addicted. I work daily 11 hrs a day with patients, who I've been working with for over 3 years. Most of them don't even smoke. Many have been on opiates for 5 years AT LEAST. Everyday and night, try that and then speak on it.

I could ingest a large dose of cannabis at a time, probably more than you I GUARANTEE and I sir do not eat 24/7 but pretty much everyday. My average dosage per day is about 250- 375 mg through out the day. Plus amoking concentrates inbetween helping patients. There's nothing wrong with using cannabis. But I do see a problem with popping pills 24/7 which you would be doing the same way you claim you would need to with cannabis. YOU GET IMMUNE to Those opiates quick and need higher mg.

i also have a patient who's been taki opiates for over 15 years cause she HAS TO and now she needs Botox injections in her throat so she can swallow. BECAUSE THE OPIATES MADE HER VOMIT CONSTANTLY DESTROYING THE MISC,E IN ER ESOPHAGUS.

I'm not bashing, I'm saying you could get MOST results using the right kind of cannabis correctly. No don't go wild and just dose yourself crazy, see what works. Slowly using your pain meds, and as you progress subtract and add until you find a safe and effective use.

I'm not bashing people who use them, I'm bashing the people who prescribe them making you think youre getting better, and that's the only way. When often times, I've found you trade one sickness for another.

Cannabis is a real medication, if you're growing it and don't believe what it does; then I'm sorry but you really are the criminal type making caregivers look bad. We're trying to provide a better quality of life for people, not for our bank accounts.
 

beuffer420

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Whatever route you choose to take for your pain or illness I just hope it makes you feel better. Feeling like chit is no fun and I wouldn't wish it on anybody. We are all different and what's works for some may not work for others. I wish everyone the best!
 

BWG707

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I find this to be an asinine statement.
"I know some patients who cannot tolerate cannabis." But does everyone tolerate opiates and perscription meds the same?? No, they start everyone off on the same dosage AND GUESS WHAT SOME PEOPLE CAN'T HANDLE THAT. Check the long term affects on your liver for taking opiates over 5 years.

20- 32 mg of cannabis has shown to be a true standard DOSE. Where as the average person body starts to respond to the active chemicals in the THC. And no, if you ingested cannabis at such a high rate to where you were a ZOMBIE you would sleeping. Pain meds make Zombies.

90% of people on opiates HATE IT and the rest are people addicted to the high, sorry but its true. I've never found one person who's takin opiates over 3 years straight and said they liked it for any other reason than they're addicted. I work daily 11 hrs a day with patients, who I've been working with for over 3 years. Most of them don't even smoke. Many have been on opiates for 5 years AT LEAST. Everyday and night, try that and then speak on it.

I could ingest a large dose of cannabis at a time, probably more than you I GUARANTEE and I sir do not eat 24/7 but pretty much everyday. My average dosage per day is about 250- 375 mg through out the day. Plus amoking concentrates inbetween helping patients. There's nothing wrong with using cannabis. But I do see a problem with popping pills 24/7 which you would be doing the same way you claim you would need to with cannabis. YOU GET IMMUNE to Those opiates quick and need higher mg.

i also have a patient who's been taki opiates for over 15 years cause she HAS TO and now she needs Botox injections in her throat so she can swallow. BECAUSE THE OPIATES MADE HER VOMIT CONSTANTLY DESTROYING THE MISC,E IN ER ESOPHAGUS.

I'm not bashing, I'm saying you could get MOST results using the right kind of cannabis correctly. No don't go wild and just dose yourself crazy, see what works. Slowly using your pain meds, and as you progress subtract and add until you find a safe and effective use.

I'm not bashing people who use them, I'm bashing the people who prescribe them making you think youre getting better, and that's the only way. When often times, I've found you trade one sickness for another.

Cannabis is a real medication, if you're growing it and don't believe what it does; then I'm sorry but you really are the criminal type making caregivers look bad. We're trying to provide a better quality of life for people, not for our bank accounts.
Wow! Defensive or what? I do know people that don not tolerate cannabis well at al. To the point they can not take it. Also I said if I had to choose I would RELUCTANTLY has to choose meds. I can tell you unless you experienced dibilitating pain, to the point where you can not even think about anything else, every single minute of every single day you can not even begin to understand chronic pain , let alone treating it. Just because studies have been done and you and others have had great success with cannabis as pain reliever doesn't mean it will work with everyone. I'm going to stop now and leave with this: if the was any one thing in my life I would want to change more than anything else, is I would love to not have to take any pills at all. Take from this what you want but until you, personally have been in severe chronic pain for yrs and yrs you shouldn't even try to preach to others.
 
Wow! Defensive or what? I do know people that don not tolerate cannabis well at al. To the point they can not take it. Also I said if I had to choose I would RELUCTANTLY has to choose meds. I can tell you unless you experienced dibilitating pain, to the point where you can not even think about anything else, every single minute of every single day you can not even begin to understand chronic pain , let alone treating it. Just because studies have been done and you and others have had great success with cannabis as pain reliever doesn't mean it will work with everyone. I'm going to stop now and leave with this: if the was any one thing in my life I would want to change more than anything else, is I would love to not have to take any pills at all. Take from this what you want but until you, personally have been in severe chronic pain for yrs and yrs you shouldn't even try to preach to others.
So explain to me why opiates are such a miracle?? They work on everyone??

Haha this is why I HATE RIU. The people on here LIKE you don,t read anything at all. but also, have no credible support for any of this. Humans are born with cannibinoids receptors. Point blank, fact. If someone can't handle it ITS CAUSE YOUR DOSING THEM TOO HIGH. And that's from a lack of knowledge by the person administering the dosages.

No one can handle opiates, they're not natural and they do intact provide all the negative things you're talking about. I had my back broken in a car accident hit by a drunk driver, and was addicted to methadone. So yes tell me about excruciating pain.

I have patients who undergo chemo therapy and radiation simultaneously. You try chemo and radiation at the same time 34 treatments, and tell me about pain. Maria is able to walk into our shop hours after she's had treatment. I don't know how many cancer patients you've seen after a treatment but I've got about 15 I see regularly. That's pain.

Like I said at the end, I don't hate you cause you need pain meds. I hate the negative effect long term use lf pain meds can do and that no one addresses that fact at all. Keep popping your pills bro, I don't care get your relief. You just might be taking part in the wrong movement.
 

BWG707

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So explain to me why opiates are such a miracle?? They work on everyone??

Haha this is why I HATE RIU. The people on here LIKE you don,t read anything at all. but also, have no credible support for any of this. Humans are born with cannibinoids receptors. Point blank, fact. If someone can't handle it ITS CAUSE YOUR DOSING THEM TOO HIGH. And that's from a lack of knowledge by the person administering the dosages.

No one can handle opiates, they're not natural and they do intact provide all the negative things you're talking about. I had my back broken in a car accident hit by a drunk driver, and was addicted to methadone. So yes tell me about excruciating pain.

I have patients who undergo chemo therapy and radiation simultaneously. You try chemo and radiation at the same time 34 treatments, and tell me about pain. Maria is able to walk into our shop hours after she's had treatment. I don't know how many cancer patients you've seen after a treatment but I've got about 15 I see regularly. That's pain.

Like I said at the end, I don't hate you cause you need pain meds. I hate the negative effect long term use lf pain meds can do and that no one addresses that fact at all. Keep popping your pills bro, I don't care get your relief. You just might be taking part in the wrong movement.
I said not one word about opioids being "miracle cure". Where are you getting this from? I don't read? I would be willing to bet I've read more in the last 5 years than you've read in your entire life. Im disabled and reading is one of the few things that get me through the day. I in no said said that cannabis doesn't help and people shouldn't use it. I said it doesn't work for everybody- quit trying to put words in my mouth. Cannabis helps a whole lot of people, including myself. And I'm not saying opioids are better. But in some situations they are very helpful. Could you imagine not having opioids during war times. Are you going to give somebody with a arm blown off a joint? Do you realized that certain meds are use for certain types of pain? morphine does not necessarily help any pain you have. ive had to deal with more pain than most people and i find myself fairly well educated about treating some pain. Not only have i had to deal with my aforementioned nerve pain but also ive lost limbs ans to top it all off i get kidney stones alot. dont tell me what will give myself relief and what doesnt, or what i SHOULD be taking and what i shouldnt. Don't be silly, just because I INFERRED that cannabis is not the end all cure all med you go nuts. Of course cannabis would be a much milder med with less side effects than most if not all pharm. meds I don't think you understood what I posted. Maybe you need to read and understand what you read a bit better. You are so far off base about what I said and meant it is comical. Have you been battling chronic pain, from your responses you haven't, just supply cannabis to patients. It's one thing to supply cannabis and to observe patients but IRS a whole new world being in the situation first hand. I can tell from your twisting of what I said and the way you jump to the defense that you are fairly young. Gain a little more personal experience then come back and re read what I posted. Just because you perceived an attack on cannabis you threw all logic out the window and when nuts because you believe it is your high and mighty cause to preach to virtues of cannabis. Believe me I know a lot more about it than you do. I've done research on cannabis starting in the early 70's. when did you start, when you joined this forum? Grow up then talk to me. You have twisted, and read things into my post that wasn't even there. You completely missed my whole point. Take a breath and re read my post without prejudice and I think you'll find that our views concerning cannabis are along the same lines.:peace:
 

sunni

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i love when people "push " cannabis, do they realize they are just as bad as someone "pushing" pain meds.....
ya have to wonder

dont act like a doctor cause you arent. plain and simple, you are literally playing with someones life if they listen to you, (this goes for both sides canna or med)
 

beuffer420

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I have a buddy who broke his back falling off a roof we were working on. Cannabis can't even touch the amount of pain he is in. He does use cannabis and says it helps, but with all the rods in his back its just not enough. So it all depends on your condition. He is going to get the rest of his back fused with rods in the next couple of months as every new surgery ultimately ended up ruining another section of his vertebrae. I guess what I'm getting at is some pain does need to be killed with opiates and its just the way it is. I don't think you would tolerate the guy if he was just eating cannabis, I don't have a broke back but the days I'm really bad off I'm not good for anybody. Pain makes me pissed as all can get, just someone talking to me when my pain is a ten is enough to make me want to slap them when they talk to me. We all deserve to live life comfortably right?
 
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