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Mark Blyth, the economist who's making sense

Discussion in 'Politics' started by ttystikk, May 8, 2017.

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    Fogdog

    Fogdog Well-Known Member

    Something has to give. Take a listen to Cenks video posted on their website:


    Maybe his absolute statements are obnoxious but I don't hear the unthinking and false crap that we usually get from him and his sidekick, Kyle Kulinski.
    Its some new white pride salute. The fingers form the letter "W". They think that salute drives us libtards crazy. As you point out all it does for us it to make them look crazy.
     
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    SneekyNinja

    SneekyNinja Well-Known Member

    I'll check the video out later based on your recommendation, I usually don't waste time on "watch the video" but youre a credible dude.

    And thank you, my knowledge of white pride symbolism is somewhat out of date ;)
     
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    Fogdog

    Fogdog Well-Known Member

    The Cenk video is informative in that it tells us what he's saying to drum up support and inspire people to take action. He says nothing that we haven't heard already. What I liked about the video is it seems free of fake or false news while it tells us what JD stands for. The shit pad says isn't what Justice Democrats are saying. They ask for a voluntary pledge but also promise no cooperation. But the context of the "no cooperation" is framed with Manchin's attempt to get his Senatorial colleagues to agree to not endorse a candidate who opposes him. Cenk's not saying "my way or the highway" like our resident Sandernistas say. He's saying if you are a vulnerable conservative Democrat they won't cooperate with you, they will primary you. I say, have at it, good luck. Truly mean it. Good luck to them.

    What I also get from the video is he's willing to stop the fake shit and hyperbole to talk about Justice Democrats. Once you listen, let me know what you think. Maybe we will disagree and I'll be glad to hear why.
     
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    twostrokenut

    twostrokenut Well-Known Member

     
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    SneekyNinja

    SneekyNinja Well-Known Member

    Calm down, you're all emotional.

    The Govt owning things isn't evil, try get used to it.
     
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    UncleBuck

    UncleBuck Well-Known Member

    the nazi is acting like he pays taxes rather than taking ours.

    i guarantee his kid is being born on medicaid for the poors.
     
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    twostrokenut

    twostrokenut Well-Known Member

    relax guy, I never said evil. I would consider it a paternal arrangement, would you disagree?

    the issue is how left of center you are if you own 40% of production.

    about 40% left of center is my guess.
     
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    twostrokenut

    twostrokenut Well-Known Member

    all you do is think about me, it's very flattering.
     
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    tangerinegreen555

    tangerinegreen555 Well-Known Member

    The only thing that's further from the truth is Trump.
     
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    SneekyNinja

    SneekyNinja Well-Known Member

    You don't own 40% of production from taxes, that's Libertarian flavored stupid.

    If you don't like paying taxes then you're unpatriotic first off and secondly companies aren't forced to produce for and sell to the US market, yet it is the largest market in the world and they line up to sell their shit here.
     
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    Padawanbater2

    Padawanbater2 Well-Known Member

    Democratic politicians who campaign on conservative issues do not win elections in conservative districts. Please provide examples of conservative Democrats who have beat Republicans in a conservative district by doing what you propose

    Your entire gripe against Sanders for endorsing Mello was about his previous anti-choice stance on abortion. Why have you all of a sudden changed your tune to believing the Democratic party should accept an anti-choice stance in regards to abortion just to win elections in conservative districts? Manchin supported most of Trump's cabinet picks, do you want to fill the House with "Democrats" like that? What have we actually won if Democrats vote with Republicans on key issues just to placate their conservative constituents?
     
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    twostrokenut

    twostrokenut Well-Known Member

    you make widgets and I take 40% of what you earned but I don't own 40% of your production? then I tax you personally, inflationarily, tax all your imports around the same rate and if you dont like it your unpatriotic.....

    sounds very nationalist to me.
     
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    UncleBuck

    UncleBuck Well-Known Member

    joe manchin. fired a rifle through the text of obamacare, beat the republican for his seat in the senate.

    DERP
     
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    UncleBuck

    UncleBuck Well-Known Member

    ONOZ THE INFLATION TAX! THAT FUNDS THE SKY CHEMICALS MAKING MY DOGS TRANS.

    rand paul 2040 ron paul 2044 end the (((fed)))
     
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    twostrokenut

    twostrokenut Well-Known Member

    where do we get the money for endless warfare again?

    edit: crickets gibs us da monies!
     
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    Fogdog

    Fogdog Well-Known Member

    Do I have to repost what I said about Sanders again? OK, it's pretty easy.
    It's so funny that you don't even listen to what Sanders, the person, says anymore but you certainly get into a lather over any perceived criticism of your mythical left wing Saint Bernard. Bernie is saying he can and will work with people whom he disagrees with on this or other issues. You, on the other hand would reject his advice. I'm with Bernie. By the way, Bernie is liberal, not left in political ideology.

    There is a pretty good list of conservative Democrats who have won recently against Republicans. John Bel Edwards, currently governor of Louisiana, for instance, is a Catholic and by his faith is against abortion. He has served in US Congress. Oh yes, he trounced a Republican in every election for national or state office. By your views, Democrats should just tell him to switch to Republican, I guess.

    I will not vote for an anti-choice anybody. I recognize that the people of Louisiana have the right to vote for whomever they want. I would expect that the Democratic Party both stay true to commitment to women's rights and work with Edwards where there is agreement. And there are many areas of agreement that would not exist were there a Republican in that office.

    Now that I've ripped you a new asshole, maybe you can speak though it and tell me how much harder your black and brown coworkers expect you to work because you are white.
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    Indeed, something has to give; our current path is unsustainable.

    I don't claim to agree with anything and everything someone says just because they call themselves a lefty or progressive. But there are a lot of highly legitimate concerns about how things are going and why people are suffering and it's well past time to air those grievances.

    Charlottesville is an example of just how wrong things could go.
     
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    Padawanbater2

    Padawanbater2 Well-Known Member

    One fanatical segment of the far left wants to continue to ridicule, doxx, disrespect, dehumanize, and condone violence to solve the problem

    No reason to believe that won't work, right?

    Does proposing not doing any of those things mean you support their racist bullshit?

    No.

    This poster on Reddit said it better than I could, and I think he's right;

     
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    Padawanbater2

    Padawanbater2 Well-Known Member

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    UncleBuck

    UncleBuck Well-Known Member

    "progressives" crying about getting literal nazis fired.

    speaking out against "doxxing" nazis who go out into public spaces showing their faces, openly.

    fucking retarded.
     
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