Medical grow raided.

Hey guys i just became a licenced grower here in canada and I'm wondering if any one has heard of a licenced grower being raided to see if they are complying with their permit limits and/or by-laws they might be breaking...

Let me know if u guys know or heard of anything and any sort of prof would be nice

THX!!!

You don't get raided but you might have to show your garden to the authorities to make sure you are within your limits.

Depends, you can get busted even if you are a card holder for various reasons. Plant limit too high, grow is too close to a park, govt bldg, school, church ect.. Smell ordinaces if you op reeks to high hell.. . Stealing electricity. Hazardous operation (I would assume you can get busted for having an unsafe room, for example tons of lights, wires.. with no fire extinguisher.

and one of the main ones, trying to make $$$ off your bud & selling to everyone, having traffic come through the house is always bad.

......................................http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/content/2011/08/29/Ex-Mountie-Sues-Over-Medical-Pot-Raid

...................................http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/2011/oct/14/dea_raids_california_colorado_me

RawBudzski said:

Depends, you can get busted even if you are a card holder for various reasons. Plant limit too high, grow is too close to a park, govt bldg, school, church ect.. Smell ordinaces if you op reeks to high hell.. . Stealing electricity. Hazardous operation (I would assume you can get busted for having an unsafe room, for example tons of lights, wires.. with no fire extinguisher.

and one of the main ones, trying to make $$$ off your bud & selling to everyone, having traffic come through the house is always bad.

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No traffic! Lol thats crazy. 700$ electricity a month legit. so yet and still how do these things happen?

RawBudzski said:

Depends, you can get busted even if you are a card holder for various reasons. Plant limit too high, grow is too close to a park, govt bldg, school, church ect.. Smell ordinaces if you op reeks to high hell.. . Stealing electricity. Hazardous operation (I would assume you can get busted for having an unsafe room, for example tons of lights, wires.. with no fire extinguisher.

and one of the main ones, trying to make $$$ off your bud & selling to everyone, having traffic come through the house is always bad.

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So true, one thing i wanted to add having minors like your kids 16-18 smoking or having any contact with your meds. It is so important that medical users keep good security and do a good job representing this program properly if we want to have it around in the future.

jessica d said:

So true, one thing i wanted to add having minors like your kids 16-18 smoking or having any contact with your meds. It is so important that medical users keep good security and do a good job representing this program properly if we want to have it around in the future.

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It's gone in 2014, replaced with no cards, but instead a form filled out by doctor, sent into an "Authorized Dealer" to fill and send to you. There will be no more personal production, no more anything really... No doctor will sign a form for a cannabis script if their not willing to sign the current MMAR now.

The changes to this program are going to make it insanely difficult to get a prescription for cannabis from the current "We don't wanna sign" doctor population.

Pharoah said:

It's gone in 2014, replaced with no cards, but instead a form filled out by doctor, sent into an "Authorized Dealer" to fill and send to you. There will be no more personal production, no more anything really... No doctor will sign a form for a cannabis script if their not willing to sign the current MMAR now.

The changes to this program are going to make it insanely difficult to get a prescription for cannabis from the current "We don't wanna sign" doctor population.

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How does one become an "Authorized dealer"? and is there money to be made there?

cliffey501 said:

How does one become an "Authorized dealer"? and is there money to be made there?

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From my understanding, it takes a shit ton of money to become an authorized producer, the authorized dealer part is speculation at this point, but I'm sure it will be in the range of $500,000, I heard recently, that someone who grows hemp for a living was approached by Health Canada about production of medical cannabis, and from my understanding, you have to put up a $5,000,000 non-refundable "Bond" or whatever, + setup the entire grow operation to code.

As for the question, is there money to be made?

I'm going to say not at the first, no, because these authorized dealers or producers (Depends on authorized dealers will actually exist) will have to put up between half a million, to a million in non refundable monies, PLUS setup their storefront/production site according to Health Canada's Code, so you're looking at between $600,000 and $6,000,000+ to start one of these operations, meanwhile, just like right now, everyone will have a hard as fuck time finding a doctor who is willing to prescribe cannabis.

In other words, you'll only likely get a prescription for end of life conditions, and not "Pain management" conditions, or any other condition currently approved by the MMAR program. The reason for this is because those DR.'s who did or do sign for conditions lesser than "End of life" conditions are few and far between, and do not advertise that they have prescribed, or are willing to in the future... Meanwhile, the ones who did advertise are currently under heavy scrutiny due to what appears to be an attack on the medical marijuana movement, and the legalize cannabis movement. And the reason most other doctors would only sign for end of life conditions, is because there isn't enough research to the benefits and side effects of cannabis consumption (Despite the countless thousands of cannabis use throughout the entire span of human civilization (At least the vast majority of it) and our current success as a species as a whole.

My point in that is that we didn't retard our social, or technological growth even tho cannabis has been recorded to be used by many ancient civilizations. Our Social growth however, has been retarded however by Prohibition. The major one is currently crumbling from the insides out, and is putting on a nice smile as a front.

if they dont fix that MMAR soon like the judge ordered we might be legal across the country, or easier access to doctors willing to sign. but from viewing the past i can see the government taking over like anyother pharma drug and sell it to us. either way we all gotta march on with the herb, legal or not.

I have had them come by my place to do check ups twice, I was actually wondering if bylaw you have to let them in or do they need a search warrant? I have nothing to hide so I let them come in, I recall reading somewhere that they must give you 48 hrs notice before they can enter without a warrant . Also the cop informed me that they have access to my surveillance cams . Do they need a warrant for that?

The answer to all of that is yes, they still need a warrant. Currently in Canada (likely to change to follow suit with the US and their new invasion of privacy bill) no police officer is allowed to enter a premises without a search warrant or probable cause, the smell of cannabis is no longer "probable cause" because you have an exemption for it. However, refusing to allow police to enter will trigger them to obtain a warrant and their no longer entering on your terms...

Pkkush said:

I have had them come by my place to do check ups twice

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What province do you live in?

I'm guessing frequency is based on the how the local police feel about MMAR grows and how often they're being abused in that area.

I could be wrong.

If the police show up unannounced just tell them you would love to show them your grow but you are late for an appointment and you are leaving now and to please come back another day.

Garm said:

If the police show up unannounced just tell them you would love to show them your grow but you are late for an appointment and you are leaving now and to please come back another day.

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^^ what he said

Garm said:

If the police show up unannounced just tell them you would love to show them your grow but you are late for an appointment and you are leaving now and to please come back another day.

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Ya right! If your legal and have nothing to hide why lie? Tell them FUCK OFF and get a warrant! Or if you really want to see than make an appointment and I will gladly show you. They are trained to see through lies so starting off that way is worse than telling them where to go.

I told them to fuck off and it felt sooo good. I told them to make an appointment and have not seen them since.

Pharoah, man you really look at the glass half empty. Do you really think its all gone in 2014? I do believe that changes will come but our government does not work that fast firstly, secondly they are already in hot water over other issues that are deemed more important(F-35) and we have an election comming up near that date.

I hope your wrong but if not, Fuck em all their my prescribed meds and no one can produce my strain.

Vaper

Sir.Ganga said:

Ya right! If your legal and have nothing to hide why lie? Tell them FUCK OFF and get a warrant! Or if you really want to see than make an appointment and I will gladly show you. They are trained to see through lies so starting off that way is worse than telling them where to go.

I told them to fuck off and it felt sooo good. I told them to make an appointment and have not seen them since.

Pharoah, man you really look at the glass half empty. Do you really think its all gone in 2014? I do believe that changes will come but our government does not work that fast firstly, secondly they are already in hot water over other issues that are deemed more important(F-35) and we have an election comming up near that date.

I hope your wrong but if not, Fuck em all their my prescribed meds and no one can produce my strain.

Vaper

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Hard to look at the glass half full when they've already got exactly what their planning on doing essentially mapped out, phasing out DG's and PPL's by 2014, the ONLY thing that's going to postpone that is if the people who become "Authorized producers" are unable to provide medicine to the entire country when they plan on phasing out DG's and PPL's, or we get a change in government.

Look at C-10, nobody heard about C-10 until harper started plugging away at that, and not only did it take next to no time to prepare, but it also went through all stages of law building in no time as well.

When the government WANTS to do something... I don't think it takes them long to do it, it's only when they don't want to change things that they take forever with it.

OGEvilgenius said:

You don't get raided but you might have to show your garden to the authorities to make sure you are within your limits.

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that is pretty much a raid

Corso312 said:

that is pretty much a raid

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i disagree.. a raid is when flash bangs are used, doors kicked down, pet dogs shot, handcuffs used.. automatic gun totting police all over the scene.. not when a few local police or whom ever knock at the door and ask to see a legal mmj grow..