Molasses
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terpenophenolic
yes i even said as a post yesterday to virgin harvester, that you said you don't use molasses and so you should not be telling others how to use it because you cannot speak out of experience, how do you know what the most definitive , article on molasses is? you just said you don't use molasses..so you don't know shit...i do have first hand experience, i have used molasses for over 7 years as part of my fertilizer regimen, i've done everything with it including foliar spraying, and i will tell you from first hand experience...it works but definately leaves a risidual on the plants that could clog the stomata.
nobody said you had to use molasses...just don't give people advice for shit you have never done..
babygro
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I made it perfectly clear before I pasted that information that as I didn't use it myself, I wasn't speaking from experience.
Not only that, it was posted with the specfic intention and for the attention of one person - VirginHarvester. Quite what any of it had to do with you, you asshole it beyond me.
Why can't you understand that oh intellectually challenged one?
kieahtoka
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Why would it matter? they both do the same thing, the nutrients are just derived from different sources.. it's actually just a matter of preference to use organic or chemical based nutrients. Anyways. Fertilome makes a wide array of foliar sprays and fertilizers. Some are organic, some are not. the one I currently have in my hand is a chemical based one. I'll go later on and look at some of their organic nutrients and get you the facts on some of them.
babygro
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I don't have to use something to understand what it does or how it's used. I always investigate things in some detail before I use them myself and Molasses isn't something I want to use. That doesn't mean I don't understand what it is or what it does or how it does it.yes i even said as a post yesterday to virgin harvester, that you said you don't use molasses and so you should not be telling others how to use it because you cannot speak out of experience, how do you know what the most definitive , article on molasses is? you just said you don't use molasses..so you don't know shit...i do have first hand experience, i have used molasses for over 7 years as part of my fertilizer regimen, i've done everything with it including foliar spraying, and i will tell you from first hand experience...it works but definately leaves a risidual on the plants that could clog the stomata.
nobody said you had to use molasses...just don't give people advice for shit you have never done..
And whats more, I'm just as entitled to express my opinion on here about things as anyone else is - regardless of whether I've used the product or not, and regardless of whether that's good or bad to your own 'sensibilites'.
As far as I'm concerned, the article I posted yesterday is the most definitive article on Molasses I've come across. Do you understand that that is a personal opinion? Do you understand that, that was a personal opinion directed at one person - VirginHarvester? Not you, not Kieahtoka, nor anyone else but VirginHarvester.
What the fuck any of this has to do with you, to be honest is way beyond me. If you don't like the information I post or how I post it, put me on ignore and save everyone all this grief.
Undoubtedly the reason you get residual on your plants leaves is because you're not using it in the correct way or dosage, and I don't need to have used Molasses for 7 years to be able to say that, knowing you're a complete an utter asshole is enough for me to know you probably aren't using it correctly.
Try it as a foliar spray in an organic tea next time with some wetting agent and see if you get any leaf residuals, and oh, most foliar sprays should be used in conjuction with plain water spraying as well. Only a total and utter asshole would use diluted Molasses on the underside of leaves by the way, no wonder you got some stomata clogging.
babygro
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Apparently it doesn't matter to you - you go and save yourself some money.
To the rest of us who like to grow organically, or as close to organically as we can it makes a world of difference.
And neither am I going to explain the difference to you between organic and inorganic - go look that up yourself.
nongreenthumb
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I started a thread not so long ago asking people who grew organic weed and bought organic produce from the shops. I only got one reply.
kieahtoka
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dude that was way out of line, chill out. the way someone acts doesn't dictate how they grow or the way they use a product.He has stopped insulting you so calm down a little bit.
kieahtoka
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Babygro, if you've used a foliar spray before you'd know that it is extremely hard not to get it on the undersides of some leaves if you're growing a dense bush. This is one reason why I'd prefer something else. You don't necessarily have to worry about clogging stomata.
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terpenophenolic
did i say i spray it directly on the underside of leaves? no,and i don't think you understand much about growing at all considering you may have had 3 grows...but you want people to think you know alot...and then you degrade people for pointing out your mistakes.
i also didn't tell you how i applied it so you don't knowyou assume i don't use a wetting agent or make teas, but actually i do, you are just making assumptions just like you always do guessing not actually knowing that's what you do.I have been growing many years and know many more breeders and farmers and actually know, not assume many things, more than you could hope to retain in your tiny head, ever. all foliar feeding leaves residual even if you use plain water to wash away residual you will never get ever little bit, some stomata will get clogged, it's worse when you have cane sugars in the tea..even when you use what you say is the correct "dose".I'm not saying so many stomata are clogged it out ways the benefits of the foliar feeding but i prefer to feed my plants through the soil...man you are funny you get so frustrated you have to call people names...LOL..LOL...so funny
hey babygro you know jack about cannabis, come battle when you get out of cannacollege and you actually have some knowledge and skills to back your attitude, then you can fill up your posts with more knowledge than BS, C&Ps and name calling...lol...you are laughable...
nongreenthumb
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I dont use molasses.
What I do use is a mixture of spray mixes, I use plagron phyt-amin on older plants and nytrozyme on younger plants, when I mix them I always add some non-ionic wetting agent to let the leaves absorb it better, I do this every 5 days or so. Half way between sprayings I have a seperate bottle that is just ph'd water. I use the to spray the underside of the leaves to stop stomata from being blocked.
What I do use is a mixture of spray mixes, I use plagron phyt-amin on older plants and nytrozyme on younger plants, when I mix them I always add some non-ionic wetting agent to let the leaves absorb it better, I do this every 5 days or so. Half way between sprayings I have a seperate bottle that is just ph'd water. I use the to spray the underside of the leaves to stop stomata from being blocked.
GraF
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yeah, no shit... lol
It is pretty much impossible for 1000 people crammed into 1 place to get along with no arguments though..
I do have 1 answer though- BabyGro isnt going to try ANYTHING that Videoman has recommended. Period. I know someone agrees with me on that one!!!
It is pretty much impossible for 1000 people crammed into 1 place to get along with no arguments though..
I do have 1 answer though- BabyGro isnt going to try ANYTHING that Videoman has recommended. Period. I know someone agrees with me on that one!!!
kieahtoka
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I'll agree on that.
kieahtoka
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I like to share the love and help people. most of my rep comes from problems I've helped people resolve. Haven't had one complaint yet, except from babygro.kieatoka, how do you have more rep than me? My plants look a 1k times better than yours
kieahtoka
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I havent recieved any rep from people about babygro except vman. and I wasn't even bashing babygro then just having a simple debate, he gave me rep cause I made some good points.
kieahtoka
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My plants are not 3 inches tall, I've got a plant a month old and is showing prefloers, it's quite healthy. I made newb mistakes yes, but havent we all? My first grow was bagseed anyways so it was more of an experiment. I wanted to try a hydro grow and didn't have an soiless mediums to start with. I had around 80+ seeds so I decided, why not?
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