Molasses?

Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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greasemonkeymann said:
retiring from this thread, and he is on ignore.
Dr.who is wrong, I am wrong, you are wrong, we are all wrong, his plants are way better than anyones, his miracle grow is awesome, molasses makes your trichomes stack on like nothing, makes your dick grow longer, your wife/gf hotter, your car faster, and it cures cancer too.
yee haw.
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Cool, thanks, bro. Love you, too.
 
Gary Goodson

Gary Goodson

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Olive Drab Green said:
Why do you keep saying that? I never said that. I said I agree with its use in soil. And I believe, as products for trichomes are made of potassium sulfate (or silicate), as you said yourself, that potassium has been identified as the macronutrient responsible. I just argued that a tablespoon of BSM has nearly a gram, which is a pretty good sized amount. That was my argument.
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Hey, you asked the question, I just gave you my answer.
 
Olive Drab Green

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Gary Goodson said:
Hey, you asked the question, I just gave you my answer.
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Right, I just think you misinterpreted how strongly my assertion was. If you can find another source rich in potassium, that would work just as well. Like I said, it was work vs. not work, not is better vs. doesn't work.
 
Olive Drab Green

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And as I said, the only other thing that contributes, probably more so than the potassium, is genetics. But you can't feed and fuel those genetics to their greatest potential without the proper nutrients. BSM is not a complete nutrient, it's just got a good source of extra potassium and other micronutrients.
 
Olive Drab Green

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BarnBuster said:
beets make my poop red so I don't like them. I wanna know if i'm bleeding internally

whoops, sorry wrong thread
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My brother was drunk one time. He goes "Damn.. These beets are so fresh.. Snap.." He bit into it, ate it, and rubbed it on my chest. Joke was on him, though. The next day, he thought he was dying from alcohol poisoning when he went to take a shit.
 
Dr.Pecker

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Potassium does not increase resin production. If it does, please provide a link for me to catch up on the subject. As far as I know it promotes air exchanges with plant stomata and moisture exchanges between plant cells. It helps prevent transplant shock and produces fatter stems. You can easily overdo it with potassium and lock out magnesium so be careful. https://www.ipni.net/ppiweb/bcrops.nsf/$webindex/84CBB51751971AB3852568F000673A10/$file/98-3p04.pdf http://www.adonline.id.au/flowers/the-potassium-myth/
 
Uberknot

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Dr.Pecker said:
Potassium does not increase resin production. If it does, please provide a link for me to catch up on the subject. As far as I know it promotes air exchanges with plant stomata and moisture exchanges between plant cells. It helps prevent transplant shock and produces fatter stems. You can easily overdo it with potassium and lock out magnesium so be careful. https://www.ipni.net/ppiweb/bcrops.nsf/$webindex/84CBB51751971AB3852568F000673A10/$file/98-3p04.pdf http://www.adonline.id.au/flowers/the-potassium-myth/
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ohh nice to know about that lock out....um is there some place that shows which nutes lock out the other?
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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Dr.Pecker said:
Potassium does not increase resin production. If it does, please provide a link for me to catch up on the subject. As far as I know it promotes air exchanges with plant stomata and moisture exchanges between plant cells. It helps prevent transplant shock and produces fatter stems. You can easily overdo it with potassium and lock out magnesium so be careful. https://www.ipni.net/ppiweb/bcrops.nsf/$webindex/84CBB51751971AB3852568F000673A10/$file/98-3p04.pdf http://www.adonline.id.au/flowers/the-potassium-myth/
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If this is the case, then this is the fundamental flaw I was asking for, in which case, I am sorry. I will do some more background research regarding potassium being a myth as it pertains to flowering, but if you are right, I truly am sorry.

Regardless, even if potassium is a myth, molasses is still useful as a fertilizer. Not that it's better than any other fertilizer, but it won't harm your plant and will at least contribute in a beneficial way. That was my main argument.
 
Dr.Pecker

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Uberknot said:
ohh nice to know about that lock out....um is there some place that shows which nutes lock out the other?
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I'm sure there is. Google is a great place to start looking. You might have to leave the marijuana forums and visit a botany website. Same rules apply for cannabis as they do for other flowers.
 
Olive Drab Green

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I am looking as we speak, and what I'm finding says what we're disputing here is heavily contested all over. I'm not arguing one way or the other. But I'm getting sources for both, although most are saying it does, and the dissent says that the yea's are all misinformed.
 
Olive Drab Green

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1."Growers should also be aware that a lack of potassium can result in sparse amounts of flowers. Thus, you should increase potassium during mid- and late-flowering. Avoid nutrients deficiencies and use Marijuana Booster." -The Weed Blog



2."In order to keep your plants growing strong during the flowering process, deciphering the proper amount of Potassium (K) your garden needs is vital. Potassium is a prime facilitator for carbohydrate metabolism. So, if your plants aren’t receiving the right amount, the plant’s sugar production slows dramatically which makes it difficult for your plants to store necessary energy they need to develop buds.

When a Potassium deficiency occurs, plant growth not only stalls, but it also affects the quality of buds, which will decline without proper nourishment. Using Potassium supplements during this stage of your garden’s lifecycle will aid in keeping the quality of your plant’s buds at optimal levels." -http://the420times.com/2015/03/exploiting-the-power-of-potassium-for-your-cannabis-plants/


3."At this stage, using a PK formula will ensure your plants get adequate phosphorus and potassium - the nutrients needed most at this stage. Many gardeners use different techniques to develop hardness and ripeness, some include: adding molasses to your feeding schedule and using Bombastic by Atami. Often, gardeners will deliberately stress the plant mildly right at the end of the flower stage.
Many of the desirable characteristics about Cannabis are largely a result of the biological defense mechanisms employed by the Cannabis plant. By creating somewhat stressful environment, you "trick" the plant into focusing its last energy at protecting itself from the stress and recovering which can lead to increased resin and potency of cannabinoids as well as an increase in essential oils.
Light shocking (finishing the plants out with 24 to 48 hours of straight darkness) and PK spiking (adding very high levels of Phosphorus and Potassium) are two methods that when used in moderation on healthy thriving plants, consistently delivers a small but noticeable boost in quality that can often serve as the "cherry" on top of your sundae." -http://www.thenorthwestleaf.com/pages/articles/post/why-a-plants-final-3-4-weeks-of-grow-are-so-important
 
Olive Drab Green

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Like I said, it's pretty contested, with most saying it is beneficial for what I had originally stated. Do you have any good plant chemistry resource sites?
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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Also, every Cannabis fert company that makes a bloom booster uses potassium silicate or potassium sulfate as one of its main components. I mean, it seems to be the general consensus that potassium does increase flowering and resin production. I dunno what to think, Doc.
 
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