Moveon ... please move on.

ViRedd

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Subverting Democracy By Bill O'Reilly for BillOReilly.com
Thursday, Sep 06, 2007
The Wall Street Journal did a good job this week of exposing the vicious tactics of the far-left outfit "MoveOn." The story centers on Democratic Congressman Brian Baird, an ardent opponent of the Iraq war, who recently traveled to that hellish country and, surprisingly, came back saying that the "surge" is improving things there.

Well, MoveOn and its internet hit men immediately began damning Baird and even funded a TV commercial airing in his Washington State district aimed at getting him out of office.

As the Journal put it, "[MoveOn] doesn't aim to engage in debate, but to punish and silence Democrats who dare think for themselves."

And MoveOn has largely succeeded. Few Democrats want to be defamed and attacked by an organization that has millions of dollars and no standards of honesty. MoveOn and its character assassins have infiltrated a variety of political websites and there are no rules.

The funding behind MoveOn comes from radical left-wing billionaires George Soros and Peter Lewis, from the Richard and Rhoda Goldman Fund which has assets of nearly $400 million, and from the ultra-liberal "Tides Foundation." MoveOn members also donate.

So the operation is awash in dollars and can buy attack advertisements all day long. Last year, Senator Joseph Lieberman lost the Democratic primary in Connecticut largely because of MoveOn's blistering campaign against him.

The two party system in America has always been delicate, and I believe we need a vibrant third party to prevent just what is happening right now: The Democratic Party is being pulverized by far-left loons who are intimidating moderate Democrats and, in turn, imposing a radical agenda on the party.

It is hard to picture John F. Kennedy embracing extremism like this, but Senators Clinton, Obama, and Edwards all seem to be fine with MoveOn and its tactics, which is frightening, to say the least.

Congressman Baird is the rare exception in today's political arena. You may disagree with his assessment of Iraq and his liberal voting record, but the guy has guts. He made an independent assessment of Iraq after he traveled there. He then came home and stated said assessment to his constituents. He did what elected officials are supposed to do—examine situations honestly. He does not deserve to be attacked by anyone.

There is nothing on the right that compares with the tactics used by MoveOn and the reach it has purchased. These people have co-opted fanatical left mainstream media people at the New York Times and NBC News, among others, and can get their propaganda spread quickly. The far-right has little, if any, access to the mainstream media.

So only a fool would dismiss the MoveOn outfit. Armed with tons of money and zero scruples, it is subverting democracy by creating fear in the political marketplace. When good men like Senator Lieberman and Congressman Baird become targets of hate and defamation—and their own party doesn't stick up for them—you know something is very wrong.
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medicineman

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Ellen Tauscher clearly revealed the dynamics of the game to everyone (who was listening): http:/daily kos
Rep. Brian Baird (D-WA), who recently returned from Iraq as well, said his experience led him to believe the escalation should be sustained until next year. Asked to address Baird’s comments, Tauscher suggested he had become a victim of the "green zone fog":​
I will tell you that when you get in the Green Zone, there is a physiological phenomenon I think called Green Zone fog. ... It’s death by powerpoint. ... It’s always that their argument is winning.​
She added later, "It’s very, very easy to be influenced, from their point of view, that things are better." She said they will "shape" facts to show gains being made. Meanwhile, the reality in Iraq is that there is a lot of sectarianism in the government, particularly at the Ministry of Interior. "The MOI is basically this sleeper cell organization of Shiite death squads," she said.​

"I don't know of anybody who isn't desperately supportive of the military," she said. "People want to say positive things. But it's difficult to say positive things in this environment and not have some snarky apologist for the White House turn it into some clipped phraseology that looks like support for the president's policies."​

Meantime, Baird has so many requests for interviews that he already has offered a two-hour media availability Monday, after Petraeus and the U.S. Ambassador to Iraq, Ryan Crocker, testify before the House.​
Rep. Brian Baird (D-WA), who recently returned from Iraq as well, said his experience led him to believe the escalation should be sustained until next year. Asked to address Baird’s comments, Tauscher suggested he had become a victim of the "green zone fog":​
I will tell you that when you get in the Green Zone, there is a physiological phenomenon I think called Green Zone fog. ... It’s death by powerpoint. ... It’s always that their argument is winning.​
Do I mean that Baird has gone irretrievably over to the dark side when I say that? No. I mean that Baird has discovered what, for Lieberman, proved to be the "gateway drug" -- media stardom for being the Democrat who will go on record to provide the coveted Dems DividedTM storyline.


Best reaction to this so far?
Rep. Pete Stark, D-Calif., told Congressional Quarterly: "I'll give Brian a gun and let him go to Iraq and shoot whoever he wants."​
Unfortunately, it seems Baird's been aiming squarely at Democratic feet. And loving it.
hat? No. I mean that Baird has discovered what, for Lieberman, proved to be the "gateway drug" -- media stardom for being the Democrat who will go on record to provide the coveted Dems DividedTM storyline.
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krime13

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Hey, as far as I am concerned, the guy has just voiced his own opinion, not a fact...big deal.
 

medicineman

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the dems really don't like it when people think for themselves. he must be assimilated!

lol






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Somebody must have held the dude down and injected him with the Bush koolaid. Anytime you mention a Democrat that is in lockstep with Bush and Lieberman (The turncoat), you know something is fishy, Probably waterboarded him for days, you know, the non-torture procedure where they hold your head under water intill you think you are going to drown, ~LOL~ what geniouses.
 
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