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My 8hr flowering experiment

Discussion in 'Grow Journals' started by torontoke, Mar 27, 2015.

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    torontoke

    torontoke Well-Known Member

    Lol mine too sir
     
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    torontoke

    torontoke Well-Known Member

    IMG_3262.JPG Happy to say my field trip plants have finally stiffened up. I had a pipe cleaner ring around these to keep em upright.
    Now they are like bamboo shoots.
    Sort of topped the way tty explained. These were done on the 2nd 4th and 6th node.
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    Field trip is gsc forum cut x sunshine daydream
     
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    mr. childs

    mr. childs Well-Known Member

    damn you, now we all have to see what honestly can be achieved. people thought i was crazy when i tried to do a full run in the 1 liter airpots, and i thought did something spectacular by yielding an ounce & change
     
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    torontoke

    torontoke Well-Known Member

    An oz per gal is good
    Once the optimum cycle is reached tho with the help of automation and technology who knows how much is possible.
    There has to be a limit but how do u find it?
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    Veg, veg, veg and veg some more;
    20161211_114436.jpg this one came out to 25oz. That's a standard 5 gallon bucket.
     
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    torontoke

    torontoke Well-Known Member

    How long to veg something like that?
    Sort of exactly my point about veg time equaling the extra yield verse just multiple tops
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    6 months total from day of cloning to chop day.

    Wasn't gonna happen without careful training and topping tho, so I'm pretty sure they work hand in hand.
     
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    torontoke

    torontoke Well-Known Member

    I'm sure there is a lot of factors all working together.
    So that's roughly 4months of veg?
    And the screen was full pre flip
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    I don't like to count the first two weeks in the cloning tray as 'veg', but that's a minor quibble.

    The trellis is mostly full at flip. There's a bit of room left for stretch.
     
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    mr. childs

    mr. childs Well-Known Member

    that was my thought, to veg for 6 months @ 24/0 and just prune constantly
    to essentially have spring for six months
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    I find 3 1/2 months is sufficient.
     
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    mr. childs

    mr. childs Well-Known Member

    remember people doing the party cup grows, as the craft advances will we all now try get 5 oz's from a 1 gallon by vegging at 24/0 for 3 months then flowering for 8 hours on 16 hours off? extreme possibilities
     
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    torontoke

    torontoke Well-Known Member

    Extreme possibilities and very limited documented attempts.
    Probably the worst thing prohibition has done is stifle research and people attempting things.
    Because of the legalities everyone is dead set on using the tried and true methods.
    Hard to blame em really
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    Most of my veg ran 6 on/2 off.
     
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    torontoke

    torontoke Well-Known Member

    Lucky charms lower is making walking away from pollen chucking hard.
    This might get revegged and hit with lc and Sinatra pollen.
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    torontoke

    torontoke Well-Known Member

    Lc day 40ish
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    whitebb2727

    whitebb2727 Well-Known Member

    That's mostly true.

    I've found in my experience that no matter the technique yield is dependent on root mass and veg time.

    With topping and anything similar doesn't yield more in the same veg time.

    All it does is change the ratio of buds you get.

    A single cola plant will have one large bud, a number of medium buds and a lot of small ones.

    Top it and you get two main colas slightly smaller, even more medium and a lot more smaller.

    If that makes sense.

    Now I have grown scrog with a lot of tops. It yields more but you have to veg longer.


    Oh and I put some rku and lando cross in solo cups.
     
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    torontoke

    torontoke Well-Known Member

    Thanks ebb for mostly agreeing with me lol
    Hope you have some luck In that hunt....
     
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    whitebb2727

    whitebb2727 Well-Known Member

    Lol. Yea. I agree. Don't know why I said mostly.

    It all evens out in the end. Veg a couple plants for a long time or grow a bunch with little veg time.

    There is only so much a given space can provide.

    I will enjoy the hunt. I like hunting of all sorts. From animals for food to diamonds in seeds.

    I may do some crossing myself.
     
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    GroErr

    GroErr Well-Known Member

    Purely by the numbers, the longer veg, monster plants would be the way to get the most out of a space. aka ttystick's monsters yielding at 5 zips/gallon of medium. You only lose the veg time, flowering time should be consistent across strains phenos.

    To each his own of course, you have to go with your own preferences/focus. For me, what it really comes down to is variety and putting all your eggs in one basket. If that monster goes wrong you've just set yourself back a few months vs. a few weeks. And to tie up a room with a couple of monster plants means less variety which I'm not willing to trade for yields.

    I think I joked with @ttystikk that if I were to go vertical monsters I'd need a 20x40' garage or the like to get the variety I like.
     

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