My Amare Full-Bore Pro-4 Grow #1

PicklesRus

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do you think the sun cloak puts out alot less heat then the amares?
The suncloak is about 180lm/w, more efficient than the Cxb3590s in the amares. But the amares have the monos, which are photosynthetically more efficient than white leds. If i had to wager, I'd bet the suncloaks generate less heat watts per total watts. Enough to matter? I couldnt tell you.

@Hybridway those suncloaks are sick fucking lights.
 

Hybridway

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The suncloak is about 180lm/w, more efficient than the Cxb3590s in the amares. But the amares have the monos, which are photosynthetically more efficient than white leds. If i had to wager, I'd bet the suncloaks generate less heat watts per total watts. Enough to matter? I couldnt tell you.

@Hybridway those suncloaks are sick fucking lights.
Thanks! I like them both allot. Per watt, all light sources are about the same when it comes to room temps I've found. Maybe slight differences or variation.
 

Hybridway

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A few close ups.
Just found out today that the Ace of Spades is actually a special cross the seed company (or private breeder) made for my patient. It's Ace Of Spades x Astro Dog. I'm really liking her & am about to load up the cloner w/ her tonight.
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The Sweet Black Angel I've only grown once before under HPS. That grow she came out w/ big colas n like floresent green but lacked some in crystals n smell. Now, under my Amare she's got more frost n a great smell. image.jpgThe Kings is bulking up nicely for a plant that's got fading leaves. I need to learn what she likes so I can provide it for her in the future. Maybe Kush plants require a lil different nutrient plan. I know AN has a line just for Kush's but I always thought that was a mktg thing only. Could have some validity to it. image.jpgSFV-OG is going well but I only have one cut in the cloner that I attempted to clone about a week into flower n she hasn't rooted yet so that may be the end of that strain for awhile. Which is fine cuz I'm seeking the highest yeilding, most resistant, stinkers I can get n I've had plenty that are better then her. She's still a great gal though. image.jpgThe Flo is just an awesome plant w/ buds of super high bag appeal, smell, crystals & density. Off the charts gassberry smell. Grown her twice so far n she was easy to grow & resistant to problems that seamed to effect the others. Not this time though. The double spraying just prior to flower left her w/ an external leaf issue that looked very similiar to a deficiency. Usually early purpling followed by fading yellowing would be signs of a deff. but that's not the case. All plants are getting the same of everything & the others are fine for the most part. The one in the Cloak is fading too but not as bad. Im guessing the high light levels didn't help the already weakened leaves. Basically she's just not putting on weight. Hope I don't have this problem w/ the 3 nice ones vegging for the next run. The orangish hairs is just wind burn. image.jpgLooking like they are all enjoying having their own dedicated light. Takes about 3 months veg to get that though so next run will probobly be 9 plants instead of 7.
Got a new Milf (marijuana I'd like to flower) today. Banana Puff. Getting the Purple Chem-D in a few weeks once my buddy sexes them. Also got another new strain coming that's a 30%'r. No name though. Me n my buddy will be the only people to have it on the east coast n only the breeder n whoever he gave it to will have it on the west coast. So, I'll have to make a name for it. Still trying to find out the genetics but it's all top-secret stuff & im not really getting anywhere w/ that. Guess I'll just have to flower it n go w/ obvious traits related to smell n taste.
Tonight they're all getting a pure RO flush to get ready for the next phase. I usually do 3-4 fresh water feeds during flower to rinse off the roots n keep the medium from packing w/ salts n shit.
 
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Vato_504

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A few close ups.
Just found out today that the Ace of Spades is actually a special cross the seed company (or private breeder) made for my patient. It's Ace Of Spades x Astro Dog. I'm really liking her & am about to load up the closer w/ her tonight.
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The Sweet Black Angel I've only grown once before under HPS. That grow she came out w/ big colas n like floresent green but lacked some in crystals n smell. Now, under my Amare she's got more frost n a great smell. View attachment 3927238The Kings is bulking up nicely for a plant that's got fading leaves. I need to learn what she likes so I can provide it for her in the future. Maybe Kush plants require a lil different nutrient plan. I know AN has a line just for Kush's but I always thought that was a mktg thing only. Could have done validity to it. View attachment 3927239SFV-OG is going well but I only have one cut in the cloner that I attempted to clone about a week into flower n she hasn't rooted yet so that may be the end of that strain for awhile. Which is fine cuz I'm seeking the highest yeilding, most resistant, stinkers I can get n I've had plenty that are better then her. She's still a great gal though. View attachment 3927240The Flo is just an awesome plant w/ buds of super high bag appeal, smell, crystals & density. Off the charts gassberry smell. Grown her twice so far n she was easy to grow & resistant to problems that seamed to effect the others. Not this time though. The double spraying just prior to flower left her w/ an external leaf issue that looked very similiar to a deficiency. Usually early purpling followed by fading yellowing would be signs of a deff. but that's not the case. All plants are getting the same of everything & the others are fine for the most part. The one in the Cloak is fading too but not as bad. Im guessing the high light levels didn't help the already weakened leaves. Basically she's just not putting on weight. Hope I don't have this problem w/ the 3 nice ones vegging for the next run. The orangish hairs is just wind burn. View attachment 3927241Looking like they are all enjoying having their own dedicated light. Takes about 3 months veg to get that though so next run will probobly be 9 plants instead of 7.
Got a new Milf (marijuana I'd like to flower) today. Banana Puff. Getting the Purple Chem-D in a few weeks once my buddy sexes them. Also got another new strain coming that's a 30%'r. No name though. Me n my buddy will be the only people to have it on the east coast n only the breeder n whoever he gave it to will have it on the west coast. So, I'll have to make a name for it. Still trying to find out the genetics but it's all top-secret stuff & im not really getting anywhere w/ that. Guess I'll just have to flower it n go w/ obvious traits related to smell n taste.
Tonight they're all getting a pure RO flush to get ready for the next phase. I usually do 3-4 fresh water feeds during flower to rinse off the roots n keep the medium from packing w/ salts n shit.
Looking damn good brother. Rocking those 4's
 

Evil-Mobo

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It's all looking good bro :blsmoke:

I have some SBA in veg right now going to clone it soon so I have more to grow out got it as a cut from a buddy. Will be my first time growing it but I have smoked it before and it's good stuff.
 

Hybridway

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Looking damn good brother. Rocking those 4's
Yeah mang, really glad I chose them. Victors hella good to do buss w/. He's working hard right w/ Anova now to achieve the highest % spectrum to the "Medical Curve". The Pro-9 was coming in @ 73% of the MC & the New lights he's making will be around 80%. Amare truly does contain Canna-Specific spectrum & is only getting better.
Editted: Some said high CRI & enhanced spectrum was a waste of electricity/efficiency just to realize now that 90CRI cobs n white light LES's are flowering/growing better then the 70-80CRI's by A chunk. They get less output per watt w/ the high CRI but get more total growth despite the less output in umols. Amare is not only higher umols per watt then most but also doing that w/ the enhanced spectrum & highest CRI led fixture available. Not just now either, for the past 4 yrs. Now, every comp. owner that hated & disagreed w/ their approach of using high CRI is making the switch.
I should've got me some plain white cobs last year n did the direct side by side. As we can see, others are doing the 90-80cri side by sides now w/ just cobs & are seeing a tremendous difference. Enhanced high CRI is even more radical. But I don't see anyone saying, oh Hybrid, sorry for hating n bashing you for using Amare, you were right. Amare crushed all other lights in the Anova testing.
Don't mean to stir up shit by saying this stuff, it's just that these guys were so rude n attacked me or Amare every chance they got just to be wrong n never apologize. I was never a shill, just a guy trying to set the record straight & respond to obscene BS that even common sense should've told them they were wrong. Oh well! Is what it is. Now they can all play catch-up & pretend they discovered something new. Haha!
Doing my own side by side for others didn't happen. Not that it's necessary now that most can see what high CRI does in open testing here on this forum. There's a few guys doing a great job showing the difference in side by sides as we speak.
It's all looking good bro :blsmoke:

I have some SBA in veg right now going to clone it soon so I have more to grow out got it as a cut from a buddy. Will be my first time growing it but I have smoked it before and it's good stuff.
Nice! I wish I had cloned it myself now that I see how it's coming out under the Amare's. Way more terps. It's good to have a bright green strain in stock too. I don't see much of that around anymore.
 
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Hybridway

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Yo @Hybridway what happened to Smo
He just don't bother w/ RIU much anymore. Think you can see him on AFN. Still plugging away though. I'll give him a call tom. To check on him.
Smo is chilling he's busy building lights
Now you see why he tried to keep those single cob n round MW driver builds on the hush on this forum? Now their selling them as DIY kits, (inevitable of course). At least he got a good year out of them first. I think they're only $30 more to buy them pre-built from SmoBro. I like those too.
How many watts of led are you using right now? I ask cuz you said all the LEDs growing together are just about giving you your 600w HPS results. I bet adding a few of those single cobbers in 5k around an HPS hood would rock!
 
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Evil-Mobo

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He just don't bother w/ RIU much anymore. Think you can see him on AFN. Still plugging away though. I'll give him a call tom. To check on him.

Now you see why he tried to keep those single cob n round MW driver builds on the hush on this forum? Now their selling them as DIY kits but we're his original idea & execution. At least he got a good year out of them first. I think they're only $30 more to buy them pre-built from SmoBro. I like those too.
How many watts of led are you using right now? I ask cuz you said all the LEDs growing together are just about giving you your 600w HPS results. I bet adding a few of those single cobbers in 5k around an HPS hood would rock!
I have two 6500K in the veg closet and four 3500K in one of my 3x3. They're 55 watts each. Then there's the QB in the other 3x3 that pulls 322 at the wall on full blast but will be dimmed soon too much light to get close to canopy in my space.

I will be taking down my first all led girl in a day or two and we will see how she does. The buds are smaller but dense than I am use to but there's trichs everywhere and the two cobs in the veg closet are doing a great job too I am very pleased so far. I need another run or two with both lights to dial them in better and form a good opinion
Still dialing things in but I feel close to getting there. Just ran some autos really quickly to build up the head stash that was low and then I can get back to photo period plants and a breeding project or two that I have planned.
 

PicklesRus

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@Hybridway you really think the extra blues and reds make that much of a difference compared to just a white cob? Do you have any documented info I can read about that?
 

Hybridway

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@Hybridway you really think the extra blues and reds make that much of a difference compared to just a white cob? Do you have any documented info I can read about that?
Yes I do. Everywhere you look going back 10 yrs when Burple started. Now you can find more in depth science behind it all. As for white, we see how well natural light does. Who'd a thunk right? lol! Best of both worlds mixed just right. They're using 65k base, 630 (extending natural white) 470 (filling the gap in white) & 720 far red. Makes a high CRI natural full spectrum.
High CRI whites are killing it too. Cuz they have that extra umfff.
All I know for sure is things get allot brighter when I kick on my monos. Plants respond w/ mucho happiness! Adds 450 umols on the SE-450.
 

Hybridway

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Here's a peak of the backsides that you can't really see from the front pics taken for normal updates. Took these on a 2' step ladder.
AoS x Astro Dogimage.jpgKingsimage.jpgSFV-OG image.jpgWhen I set these, I put the shorter halves near the wall to get the reflection. In retrospect, I won't do that again cuz the taller stuff in the front gets wind burn from the fans. Gonna try to find some smaller oscillators that fit on the wall behind the lights. I see some guys here w/ them but can never find them in the store. Maybe an office supply store or something? Or I'll have to look online. Right now the big stand up fans are in my isle which kindve makes it a bitch to move around. But it's functional for now.
Next run I'll have the room dialed in.
Weekly updates tom. night.
Far from perfect but a heck of allot better then last run.
 
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Hybridway

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Day 35
SFV-OG, had to tie her up again. She's got Topplidious. image.jpgKings, bulking up nicely. I kick on the monos for 4-6 out of the 12. image.jpgSweet Black Angel, gotta get this cut back. She turned out to be damn good. Just wish she had been under here from day 1. The stretch she caught for about 5 days under the shop lights made her a bit lanky. image.jpg
Flo , good news, one of them is starting to grow again, the other one has yet to kick back into gear. The one growing got her monos back. No T-5 for them though. image.jpgAce of Spades x Astro Dog, filled the cloner up w/ this one last night. Shooting for a grow w/ all AoS the one after next. What a beast she turned out to be. To think, I almost got rid of her based on that last shit grow. Get to use the T-5 for about 6 out of the 12 hours. image.jpg
All's good in the Hood!
Hope All's well w/ everyone else.
 
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Evil-Mobo

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Looking good bro killing it. That SBA is looking nice. I can't wait for the auto's to finish to do my SBA run in both tents. Will be (4) SBA in 5 gallon SIP's in each 3x3 :) Got a bet with a buddy on how much I can pull with the LED's, so the pressure (friendly) is on. The same guy has grown this under HPS for quite some time so there is a baseline for the comparison :)

I have toked his buds of it before and it's Dank as hell one of few strains that works for me with my insomnia.

If you have have an issue getting a cut back just holla! :hump:
 

Hybridway

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SBA image.jpg Liking this one. Gonna have to get the cut back. Thanks on the offer Evil. My buddy should still have it in stock. I'll Lyk!
This one I have got huge under the HPS. More terps n frost under the LEDs though. Deffinetly allot more bud per watt too.
What's SIPS again? Think you told me awhile back. Forgot.
How's the autos doing? Are they in both tents?
 
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