My Amare Full-Bore Pro-4 Grow #1

Hybridway

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Same thing I see in my space. Brown to white when I flip the monos. A huge benefit for them that I see is vegging plants. Since they are on separate switches the cobs don't need to be on initially. From seed I grow the plants between 8-12 inches tall under monos only.

Hybrids pictures are deceiving at this stage. When he drops them or the plants grow to the 18" distance the monos still blend well and are beneficial as far as my grows with them vs without have been. I have done this many times in the summer while trying to lower overall room wattage. I agree from the pictures the monos are not doing much at 30-36 inches.
Yeah, they're pretty far away right now. Hoping to get them a few inches over the top trellis. That's the 12-1300 ppfd mark.
Kindve feel like I should've dropped them another 3"., then they'd be at 12-1500 3" above the top trellis.
Right now the top trellis is 1080.
There's a difference of about 100 between the lights spaced @ 25" on center.
I'm actually really impressed by the #'s I got off just the monos & they cover perfectly.
 

Kronickeeper

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Just my 2 cents but after a few grows under just cob a Johnson cx9 unit that uses CXA 3070. The plants I grew under just monos quality were a little better. Stronger smell, less fox tailing and slightly more crystal production. With that being said I think the monos in the Amare isn't a bad idea if it gives you that added spectrum to get that extra bit of terpene/crystal production I don't see in just the cob by its self.
 

Hybridway

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Just my 2 cents but after a few grows under just cob a Johnson cx9 unit that uses CXA 3070. The plants I grew under just monos quality were a little better. Stronger smell, less fox tailing and slightly more crystal production. With that being said I think the monos in the Amare isn't a bad idea if it gives you that added spectrum to get that extra bit of terpene/crystal production I don't see in just the cob by its self.
Agreed!
Last grow my Amare weed was the highest quality I ever grew.
I compared it directly to another led light that utilized whites only, also to my hps. It blew away my hps weed in terps, crystals & all around quality by allot, and was a bit better then my all white led. That light was 24k though. Basically hps spectrum but fuller.
I'd really like to get an all white cob light using 35k to do a side by side to see what the differences would be in weight & quality.
Probably have to get a test done to really know. Otherwise people here would just say I'm being biased.
If there's one thing I've learned over the past few years growing, it's that spectrum plays a huge role.
Burple gives off the quality in smoke but seems to severely lack in everything else needed. At least that's what i saw using my Hydroponics Hut.
 

Kronickeeper

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Agreed!
Last grow my Amare weed was the highest quality I ever grew.
I compared it directly to another led light that utilized whites only, also to my hps. It blew away my hps weed in terps, crystals & all around quality by allot, and was a bit better then my all white led. That light was 24k though. Basically hps spectrum but fuller.
I'd really like to get an all white cob light using 35k to do a side by side to see what the differences would be in weight & quality.
Probably have to get a test done to really know. Otherwise people here would just say I'm being biased.
If there's one thing I've learned over the past few years growing, it's that spectrum plays a huge role.
Burple gives off the quality in smoke but seems to severely lack in everything else needed. At least that's what i saw using my Hydroponics Hut.
Yea the burple spectrum gives great quality just no penetration, and doesn't pack on the weight like cobs do. im really interested in these AMares. I threw an old 120x3 grow blue light I had in with the Johnson just to get that extra bit of spectrum to see if I can get the quality up plus with it being winter the extra heat has my temps sitting perfect.
 

monkeychief

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Agreed!
Last grow my Amare weed was the highest quality I ever grew.
I compared it directly to another led light that utilized whites only, also to my hps. It blew away my hps weed in terps, crystals & all around quality by allot, and was a bit better then my all white led. That light was 24k though. Basically hps spectrum but fuller.
I'd really like to get an all white cob light using 35k to do a side by side to see what the differences would be in weight & quality.
Probably have to get a test done to really know. Otherwise people here would just say I'm being biased.
If there's one thing I've learned over the past few years growing, it's that spectrum plays a huge role.
Burple gives off the quality in smoke but seems to severely lack in everything else needed. At least that's what i saw using my Hydroponics Hut.
All you have to do with the Amare is turn off the monos and you got yourself a plain cobber. Disputing without confirmation is biased and ignorant. Even with CFL, most know the benefits of adding cool-whites with warm-white. These trolls are too busy hating, ignoring the truth or just plain stupid.
 
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Hybridway

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All you have to do with the Amare is turn off the monos and you got yourself a plain cobber. Disputing without confirmation is biased and ignorant. Even with CFL, most know the benefits of adding cool-whites with warm-white. These trolls are too busy hating, ignoring the truth or just plain stupid.
That's the thing, I'd rather buy a cheap Cob kit n give it away later to show these guys the difference rather then sacrifice one of my Amares monos for a whole grow just to show them.
Really, I dont get why they don't get it. To me it's as common sense as it comes. Everybody knows burples kill hps in terps n crystals/thc. Everybody also knows white hps or cobs kills burple in yields. So why they don't get that enhanced white is better is beyond me by miles. It's like talking to bricks sometimes. You get the super quality & the yields w/o sacrificing either.
Thing is, some guys are doing so well w/ plain cobs, the only way they'd ever know the difference is by trying enhanced. Till then, they'll just be content. I get it.
Whatever. I'm sure I'll get trolled to death for that one.
Also, Amares not even any burple (multiple colors) they are the cobs, 65k diodes w/ a blue a red & an IR.
Just the colors that matter in filling in the gaps in regular white cobs making these fixtures not only electrically efficient but maximizing photosynthetic efficiency.
 
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tstick

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In my opinion the solution to making the "best" lights is to be able to have each grower decide, for themselves, what they need for their own style of growing. No two people are ever going to grow the same way or get the same results across the globe, anyway...

I think it's more appealing to growers to be able to choose the blend (or non-blend) of light they use -if possible. And, it IS possible.

I admire the Amare brand. I think the lights look great. I don't think it's going to be easy for any company out there who has tied themselves to a production design or two, to be able to compete with the almost infinite customization that some other companies are making available to customers, now.

Growers are like witches....add a dash of this...a pinch of that....wave hands around...stir the cauldron...And, at the end, we get....flowers. My flowers will never be your flowers...will never be his flowers...never be their flowers...There will never be any consistency or uniformity among an entire community of growers. It's like getting every guy to agree that one woman is the most beautiful of all....no one will ever agree...especially on the finer points.

You dig the way the Amare lights work and you are tuned into them probably better than anyone else, so I'm sure the community will be watching for what you can do to represent them! Good luck!
 

Hybridway

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In my opinion the solution to making the "best" lights is to be able to have each grower decide, for themselves, what they need for their own style of growing. No two people are ever going to grow the same way or get the same results across the globe, anyway...

I think it's more appealing to growers to be able to choose the blend (or non-blend) of light they use -if possible. And, it IS possible.

I admire the Amare brand. I think the lights look great. I don't think it's going to be easy for any company out there who has tied themselves to a production design or two, to be able to compete with the almost infinite customization that some other companies are making available to customers, now.

Growers are like witches....add a dash of this...a pinch of that....wave hands around...stir the cauldron...And, at the end, we get....flowers. My flowers will never be your flowers...will never be his flowers...never be their flowers...There will never be any consistency or uniformity among an entire community of growers. It's like getting every guy to agree that one woman is the most beautiful of all....no one will ever agree...especially on the finer points.

You dig the way the Amare lights work and you are tuned into them probably better than anyone else, so I'm sure the community will be watching for what you can do to represent them! Good luck!
Well put. Good way of looking at it.
I feel it's more universal like the Hortrilux red bulb though. Not the fixtures themselves but the spectrum.
Damn, the pressures on me here. Guess I did it to myself. lol!
I come in trying to represent w/ some beat ass multi-new strain plants n the first thing I do is poison them. Ha! WTF!
My biggest worry though is will they stretch to 3-6" above the top trellis. That's the 1200-1400 mark. Top trellis is about 980. I can't lower the lights later n if I go through the hassle to get that 3" now, I won't be able to raise them later if some plants reach tall.
Right now, the lights are 24" above the top trellis w/o lens.
I'm thinking I'm gonna need some luck here. To many different strains I've never flowered & the others only once.
I'll just do my best n whatever happens, happens.
 

Kronickeeper

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It's not that cob by itself produces bad quality it doesn't but compared side by side same clone under the burple there is a distinct difference in quality. It's not huge but it's noticeable the colas under the cob are massive especially in a scrog and I could never get that with with my Mono led units but I got more terpene and crystal productions under them. That added spectrum makes a noticeable difference in the final result.
 

monkeychief

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Anything can be improved upon so long as you keep an open mind and invest the time and resources to accomplish it. There's no dispute that plain COBs are more than capable of getting great results. It's the relentless hating and ignorant prejudice based on nonsense and ego that's pathetic. The worst is most, if not all of these haters have yet to test their ignorant theories before attacking others. It's fine to believe the world is flat, just don't go demonizing others who believe otherwise.
 

PetFlora

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Disclosure: I keep Hybridway on ignore but just happened to see this thread while signed out and was wondering if anyone had the following opinion.

Warning: The following questions, opinions and statements do not necessarily contain alot of love for Amare or PetFlora and may offend the easily offended, the needlessly positive and the objectively challenged.

So is it just me but wtf is the point of those extra monos and whites?:confused: What mA and/or beam angle can they be running at that they're helping, especially at that distance? From what I can tell they're practically obliterated by the COBs and the COBs' metal collar on those 3 COB models and that's what a suppossed premium priced brand has to offer in design and functionality? Am I missing something here? :confused: I'll shut the eff up in a moment and enjoy the show, (beautiful setup), but I just don't see the value or advantage in their offerings. Don't really see them as efficient at the wall or photosynthetically, especially with that design. Plus the brand is Pet approved so that's the kiss of death right their IMHO. Go ask Bustas Makin' Lumens. They had to change their name to get that stench off :P.

I can see why you feel that way "FEEL" being the operative word. .It's easy to criticize when you have never done a side by side.

IMG_3670.JPG IMG_3667.JPG Man my Amare sucks
 

CobKits

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It's not that cob by itself produces bad quality it doesn't but compared side by side same clone under the burple there is a distinct difference in quality. It's not huge but it's noticeable the colas under the cob are massive especially in a scrog and I could never get that with with my Mono led units but I got more terpene and crystal productions under them. That added spectrum makes a noticeable difference in the final result.
i agree
cobs= bigger buds
blurples = more resinous and compact
 

Hybridway

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This is a new room & is still being dialed. Forgot to run an exhaust in the ceiling on a timer. Being such a sealed room, there's nowhere for the heat to go & the intake is struggling to keep up. To much positive air pressure. I usually have a neutralization port but not this time. So, looks like I'll have to cut one in tonight. Gonna be a bitch w/ the plants in there.
Co2 is pointless right now. It's just getting pushed out & can't get past 680 w/o being super wasteful. It'll be nice when I install the mini-split cuz it recirculates. Stand-ups just suck the air/co2.
Another modification I'll be making but can't till after this run, is a way to lower n raise the lights. Maybe a bar set-up holding the lights on pulleys. Right now they have to just stay where they are n hopefully the plants grow up to them accordingly.
The girls are taking shape now. Looking better. I love the way they pray so hard.
 

sixstring2112

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This is a new room & is still being dialed. Forgot to run an exhaust in the ceiling on a timer. Being such a sealed room, there's nowhere for the heat to go & the intake is struggling to keep up. To much positive air pressure. I usually have a neutralization port but not this time. So, looks like I'll have to cut one in tonight. Gonna be a bitch w/ the plants in there.
Co2 is pointless right now. It's just getting pushed out & can't get past 680 w/o being super wasteful. It'll be nice when I install the mini-split cuz it recirculates. Stand-ups just suck the air/co2.
Another modification I'll be making but can't till after this run, is a way to lower n raise the lights. Maybe a bar set-up holding the lights on pulleys. Right now they have to just stay where they are n hopefully the plants grow up to them accordingly.
The girls are taking shape now. Looking better. I love the way they pray so hard.
just toss some lightweight clear plastic from the depot over the bitches and make the cut.yeah man,cant stand those worthless portable a/c units lol.get that minispilt in there asap doggie lol.

now we all know theres a few amare threads from hybrid where we can all go and talk shit about the light designs and this diode and that cob ect ect.lets not do this shit in the new thread people,let the man have a troll less journal,at least for a few days lmmfao :lol::lol::lol:
 

ThaMagnificent

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Just my 2 cents but after a few grows under just cob a Johnson cx9 unit that uses CXA 3070. The plants I grew under just monos quality were a little better. Stronger smell, less fox tailing and slightly more crystal production. With that being said I think the monos in the Amare isn't a bad idea if it gives you that added spectrum to get that extra bit of terpene/crystal production I don't see in just the cob by its self.
Im currently running the CX9 next to the Pro9 (with just the cobs on for now). I will take out the Pro9 and run 3x Pro3s to compare the 3070 v 3070
 
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