My girls died :(

For many years I have grown, old fashioned with pots in soil. Past 2 years I have been playing around with aero/hydro setups. Well I had the unthinkable happen, my girls passed on. Fastest decline I have ever seen, 12 hours. They looked great at 6am before work, got home and whithered up and dead everything checked out as far as ph and ppm, ph of 5.8, ppm around 530. Temps were around 80, I am stumped. Anyone have a idea of the cause?

Can i see them?

Yea I will post a picture here in a few after I finish dinner, they literally whilted to the point only the stalk was upright, leaves laying down against stalk, still green.

Sorry.

This is one of them, roots are dry now pulled them from res this a.m. before work

Were the pumps working ok?

Yea everything was running great, I'm completely baffled as to what happened. I've grown c99 many times with great results, in the same setup at that lol

The other plant had slight purpling on the stem but that was adjusted and was getting better. The only thing I changed this run was a little superthrive but it was extremely low dose to the res, 1 teaspoon to 10 gallons.

Poor little plants. I have no thoughts to offer you but i am sorry for your loss.

Lost but not forgotten, well looks like I'll be breaking everything down this weekend and cleaning and restarting.

Any idea the water temps? You said temp was 80 F. Was the water that hot?

Looks like it dried out.. Roots maybe not big enough? This happens to me when I forget to water my cubes with my newly rooted clones.. Which reminds me.. Hah. watering time

Damn. That's gotta suck. I've heard with hydro it doesn't take all that long to see when you've done something wrong. As the roots are directly exposed to the chemicals without the buffer of soil.
Soil being more forgiving or something like that.

Water temp was 71, and my grow area is literally padlocked so no one can tamper with anything

This is why I stick to soil...I'm always screwing up something, but I have never managed to kill a plant. I would love to try coco...but I stick with what I know. I hope you find the answer to your problem!

I'm in soil and recently I've been experiencing something similar to what you had happen to you. In veg, everything is good. Once I put them in bloom, the leaves started to dry up and turn brown from the bottom up and even giving them teas didnt help. I'm still trying to figure out what caused it so I can prevent it from happening again.

Nugachino said:

Damn. That's gotta suck. I've heard with hydro it doesn't take all that long to see when you've done something wrong. As the roots are directly exposed to the chemicals without the buffer of soil.
Soil being more forgiving or something like that.

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Yep you mess up in hydro poof dead. Soil you can at least flush if you catch it early enough and still be ok. Hydro is deadly when you make a mistake because it happens so fast

Joe Blows Trees said:

I'm in soil and recently I've been experiencing something similar to what you had happen to you. In veg, everything is good. Once I put them in bloom, the leaves started to dry up and turn brown from the bottom up and even giving them teas didnt help. I'm still trying to figure out what caused it so I can prevent it from happening again. View attachment 3787636

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Wow those look burned to hell what is your PH of you water? I do not really know what that is as I have not experienced it or researched it due to not ever having the issue. I did however have one time where someone was using softened water and it kind of had the same discoloration

DarkWizard021 said:

The other plant had slight purpling on the stem but that was adjusted and was getting better. The only thing I changed this run was a little superthrive but it was extremely low dose to the res, 1 teaspoon to 10 gallons.

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That wouldn't effect the plants in a bad way at all unless your PPM was already out of control. But I feed sometimes at 2400 PPM out of the gate on my clones with no issues but I do not have a high N-P-K PPM, 1800 is usually where I am at day 3 on rooted clones with no issues, But that is just a blast of Silica, Mycorrhizae, Cal-Mag, Kelp and Amino Acids. Then I cut back to 1500 ppm max cutting out the Plus-C, and Cal-Mag

MrClone said:

Wow those look burned to hell what is your PH of you water? I do not really know what that is as I have not experienced it or researched it due to not ever having the issue. I did however have one time where someone was using softened water and it kind of had the same discoloration

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Bottom up? I have seen that with russet mites and spider mites. They start low and move up then destroy the plant.