My Grows just ain't working...

You're an armchair quarterback. And $32,400/year is jackshit for a dangerous job where you risk getting robbed or raided every day. Plumbers make over $100/hour...

If you can't afford to buy your weed you need to grow it. Plain and simple. Nothing is for free. I don't think you're grasping just how rude you sound when you demand that others work and risk their freedom for you without any real compensation. You'll never find a grower while acting like this. I wouldn't even be willing to consider taking on someone with your attitude.

Beggars can't be choosers.

purklize said:

You're an armchair quarterback. And $32,400/year is jackshit for a dangerous job where you risk getting robbed or raided every day. Plumbers make over $100/hour...

If you can't afford to buy your weed you need to grow it. Plain and simple. Nothing is for free. I don't think you're grasping just how rude you sound when you demand that others work and risk their freedom for you without any real compensation. You'll never find a grower while acting like this. I wouldn't even be willing to consider taking on someone with your attitude.

Beggars can't be choosers.

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Ten hour days for me easily nowadays.

CryogenicSeeds said:

harper not gonna yank anything,, you guys watch too much tv.. and believe it LOL do you realize the shit storm that woud cause?

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You need to watch more news.. bill c-10 will be ammended to add in new legislature

Safe Streets and Communities Act
Safe Streets and Communities Act: Adding Criteria for the International Transfer of Canadian Offenders Back to Canada
Safe Streets and Communities Act: Better Protecting Children and Youth from Sexual Predators
Safe Streets and Communities Act: Eliminating Pardons for Serious Crimes
Safe Streets and Communities Act: Ending House Arrest for Property and Other Serious Crimes
Safe Streets and Communities Act: Increased Penalties for Serious Drug Crime
Safe Streets and Communities Act: Increasing Offender Accountability
Safe Streets and Communities Act: Protecting Society from Violent and Repeat Young Offenders
Safe Streets and Communities Act: Protecting Vulnerable Foreign Nationals against Trafficking, Abuse and Exploitation
Safe Streets and Communities Act: Supporting Victims of Terrorism

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mandatory minimums were to never happen; guess what we have them..

With the passing of Bill C-10, the so-called "Safe Streets and Communities Act," Canada's justice system has taken a giant, expensive and self-destructive step backwards.

Canada is now a country where low-level, non-violent drug offences
command automatic prison sentences, and a judge has no say in the matter.

Despite the warnings of countless experts against the implementation of mandatory minimums, and the costly lessons learned by the United States, the Conservative government has pushed this legislation through, restricting debate and accepting none of the amendments suggested by opposition parties.

So, thank you very much to all those Canadians who weren't even paying attention. You slept through the colossal failure of our political system to protect Canadians from harmful legislation.

Heaven help us if you don't wake up to what's happening to Canada's justice system before the next federal election! Your wake-up call just might be a family member going to prison for a low-level, non-violent offence.

Don't say you weren't warned.

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regards,

VILEPLUME said:

Too bad you wernt in Ontario, I would have helped you for free. Growing is fun.

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You are so generous, I just came from your thread and you are so very kind to let that selfish guy have your 1 plant for free.

This is a DISGRACE TO THE PROGRAM to think that just because we're dealing with marijuana, in a legal setting, and producers have the ability with your plant count to produce an excess of marijana that they are using you for illegal profits.

Why would a criminal be so stupid as to tell the governmet what they are doing, only to break the law anyway!!?? I can only imagine the fun the judge would have with that!?

If your uncomfortable with the program go find other means of threatment, people have faught hard for this to be recognize as a acceptable means of treatment and its threads like this that get used to shoot down future advances in the program.

I'm a DG and I have a 10 plant count patient and I have 4 plants check my journal, just because we can grow doesn't make us criminals.

Good luck finding a DG that likes to have a finger pointed at them, you should be thankful there are compasionate people in this world willing to give you the option

And for that reason, I'm out!

matt7835706 said:

This is a DISGRACE TO THE PROGRAM to think that just because we're dealing with marijuana, in a legal setting, and producers have the ability with your plant count to produce an excess of marijana that they are using you for illegal profits.

Why would a criminal be so stupid as to tell the governmet what they are doing, only to break the law anyway!!?? I can only imagine the fun the judge would have with that!?

If your uncomfortable with the program go find other means of threatment, people have faught hard for this to be recognize as a acceptable means of treatment and its threads like this that get used to shoot down future advances in the program.

I'm a DG and I have a 10 plant count patient and I have 4 plants check my journal, just because we can grow doesn't make us criminals.

Good luck finding a DG that likes to have a finger pointed at them, you should be thankful there are compasionate people in this world willing to give you the option

And for that reason, I'm out!

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Nobodies pointing any fingers at anyone, it's a known fact that many DG's use their patients plant counts to grow excess to sell on the black market or to compassion clubs, this is not theory, or speculation, it's reality.

Not to mention, I'm not saying either is essentially in the wrong, I'm simply saying I was not looking for one who does this sort of thing.


SORRY EVERYONE FOR TRYING TO BE LEGIT, maybe I'll take a cue from you guys and bag on anyone trying to be legit.

As for the reason someone preforming illegal acts wanting to be legit, is now they actually have to be caught IN THE PROCESS OF SELLING to be charged with anything, their allowed to possess and transport with a card, it narrows the window in which they can be caught in the first place to the handoff, where the exchange of money takes place. Any other time and their simply in possession of something their allowed to have.

Pharoah said:

Nobodies pointing any fingers at anyone, it's a known fact that many DG's use their patients plant counts to grow excess to sell on the black market or to compassion clubs, this is not theory, or speculation, it's reality.

Not to mention, I'm not saying either is essentially in the wrong, I'm simply saying I was not looking for one who does this sort of thing.


SORRY EVERYONE FOR TRYING TO BE LEGIT, maybe I'll take a cue from you guys and bag on anyone trying to be legit.

As for the reason someone preforming illegal acts wanting to be legit, is now they actually have to be caught IN THE PROCESS OF SELLING to be charged with anything, their allowed to possess and transport with a card, it narrows the window in which they can be caught in the first place to the handoff, where the exchange of money takes place. Any other time and their simply in possession of something their allowed to have.

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And many patients sell the meds the grower gives them on the black market. Dont forget to mention that too. But you dont want to mention that because its what you do. Cocksucker. I went to that other site you hang on. I read you admit you been selling shit for 8 years. Man, your a drug dealer for eight fucken years! And you got the balls to come here and ask for shit from a grower to meet your personal limit. So please explain this to us. You have one pile of marijuana that you buy so you can resell it to your customers. Then you have a second pile that you get from your grower for your medical needs. And you would never mix those two piles right? Your full of shit. Your jealous of people making real money because your too fucken stupid to do it yourself. So you come on here looking to score some free dope. And your a liar. A lying sack of shit. You told me you never asked for free dope. But on that cannabis culture site you are fucken beggin for free shit and telling the grower to sell the excess to a compassion club to make up for the loss they take from giving it to you. Then you resell your shit for full profit, no work at all. Grower does all the work. You pass off the growers hard work as your own.

You are the worst of the fucken worst. Selling shit for eight years. Why dont you give it away for free? Why didnt you give your shit away for free for eight years? Hypocrite!

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And many patients sell the meds the grower gives them on the black market. Dont forget to mention that too. But you dont want to mention that because its what you do. Cocksucker. I went to that other site you hang on. I read you admit you been selling shit for 8 years. Man, your a drug dealer for eight fucken years! And you got the balls to come here and ask for shit from a grower to meet your personal limit. So please explain this to us. You have one pile of marijuana that you buy so you can resell it to your customers. Then you have a second pile that you get from your grower for your medical needs. And you would never mix those two piles right? Your full of shit. Your jealous of people making real money because your too fucken stupid to do it yourself. So you come on here looking to score some free dope. And your a liar. A lying sack of shit. You told me you never asked for free dope. But on that cannabis culture site you are fucken beggin for free shit and telling the grower to sell the excess to a compassion club to make up for the loss they take from giving it to you. Then you resell your shit for full profit, no work at all. Grower does all the work. You pass off the growers hard work as your own.

You are the worst of the fucken worst. Selling shit for eight years. Why dont you give it away for free? Why didnt you give your shit away for free for eight years? Hypocrite!

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There you go again, reading only what you want to read.

What I said is that I've sold for 8 years, I havn't sold anything for 6 years, I'm 30 years old, I started selling @ 16 years old, sold for 8 years, stopped selling @ 24, got a JOB. My accident was as of july 18 2011, and I got my license Feb 2012, so again, go ahead and make your accusations, reading ONLY what you want to read, and ignoring the other key factors, go ahead and live life THINKING you know what's going on.


Almost NOBODY can say they havn't sold anything at one point in their life, fact is, I havn't sold for 6 years, so put that in your pipe and smoke it.


In addition to that, you can see that most of the post relating to DG's and selling etc is in an argument with another member on cannabis culture, I NEVER once begged for free pot, get your facts straight you bag of shit, you make up these scenarios based on a fraction of the information available, then proceed to try to deform the character of someone who is in all respects, better than you.


Not to mention, but please explain to me, if I'm selling, and looking to earn these "Profits" you're claiming I am, then why is it I'm looking for a grower who doesn't sell, who is willing to provide me with my medicine at a price that is within my financial capabilities.

If I was doing what you're accusing me of, I'd accept the guy who DOES sell the extra, only I'd want him to sell it to me so I could sell it, this is however, NOT the case, think about what you say with at least a MINUTE amount of logic before you post ramblings and make accusations.

Let me guess how you did it, you went over there, saw a single post of mine, clicked on my name, checked out all the posts I made, read them all, and ignored in what context they were said ie didn't read the post it was responding to etc. This is most certainly NOT the way to gather information, and by the looks of what you posted here in your accusations, this is EXACTLY what you did.


I've also started reporting your posts for harassment and deformation of character, I'm to be honest, quite tired of your shit.

titan11 said:

I'd like to support them, but being a street dealer previously, and having a maximum of 20 customers, making THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS PER MONTH, from only 20 people, selling it for CHEAPER than these compassion clubs do, now if we consider compassion clubs, with a minimum of 50 customers, each paying more per gram than I charged, I see the profits building up..., it's simple math, and as previously displayed, I'm good at that.

I'm by no means stupid, and would expect anyone else who considers anything at all to ask these exact questions, as they have been asked before, and ignored.

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couple quick questions..........you said you make thousands on that other site, but here, you say you can't afford to pay rent. You said there, you're not stupid, but here, you said you can't grow your own, even with help of others here

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There's a difference between the past and present, currently, I do not sell, and do not earn this money, therefor, my current financial standings remain, I havn't sold anything for 6 years, and do not intend to, with a 4 year old daughter, I simply don't want to risk it.

Also, I'm by no means stupid, intellect has nothing to do with growing plants, stupid people are capable of growing plants, IF they are strong in that area, which I am not, this does not conclude that I'm stupid, but that I simply don't understand, or don't have the resources to grow, this doesn't mean that I can't add, subtract, multiply, devide, etc better than the next guy.

titan11 said:

the part where you say about someone who is accusing others of doing shady things, is because they have shady intentions themselves seems to contradict what you have said here as well

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I fail to see how it contradicts what I state here. There is no difference of opinion from one site to the next, it just so happens that over there, I expressed my opinions on the matter much more clear, as in, I do believe almost all types of DG's have their place, from the ones who provide free cannabis to patients by means of selling extra to compassion clubs, to those who charge full price for their supply to patients, but do not sell to cannabis clubs. The ones I don't necessarily agree with, but understand exist, is the ones who sell extra's to the black market. On here however, I am looking for one of these DG's in particular, the one who just loves growing, and is willing to provide me with my meds at a price that won't cause me financial ruin.

The only reason why you see a contradictory is because in said argument with Cannagirl, my opinions of DG's as a whole, and here, I'm only looking for one of these kinds of DG's, it doesn't change any opinions I've had prior to my search for a DG.

Also, I've never stated that anyone with a prescription of any amount has intentions to sell it. As a matter of fact, because I do know, and consume in ways other than smoking, such as baking, or juicing, which is EXTREMELY effective for my condition, without giving me the full blown high, yet requires a fair amount of raw plant matter. I'm more inclined to believe that those with larger prescription are using it ways other than smoking, which is the most harmful way to administer cannabis.

I'm having a very difficult time determining exactly what you find contradictory.

Not even close, in one hand you have my personal opinion on such matters, in the other you have EXACTLY what I'm looking for, Not to mention, there's NOTHING contradictory about any of those quotes, they say the EXACT SAME THING!! And that thing has been laid out here in the form of Scenarios in this very thread.


Max, like he has dozens of times in the past, again, just look at this thread, and you'll quickly see JUST how misinformed the individual is, despite the info being right in front of his nose, he's been throwing around accusations and bullshit with absolutely no validity what so ever, and by the looks of it, has also somehow managed to convince someone of equal intellect the exact same shit.

Again, I will not tolerate these accusations, you want to accuse me of something? You better have some DAMN good, SOLID evidence, not some bullshit makeshift scenarios based on choppy information.

In addition, the ONLY reason I believe the DG's would sell off extra, is because try giving getagrower.ca, or ANY of them places, and ask just HOW people get their meds for free from them, and they will explain EXACTLY what it is I explained would happen here, give free, and sell the rest. This isn't what I would LIKE to believe is happening, but however, it clearly is.

Therefor, I still have yet to see anything actually contradictory, or verifying any claims made by Max.

Also, I've never once said they sell "My Meds" for profits, they sell EXTRA GROWN CANNABIS which is over and above the patients personal amount, the only way they sell "My meds" for profits is if they sell MY USUAL SUPPLY TO ME for a marked up price. In other words, no more per month than my authorization allows.

I honestly have no clue how any of this is contradictory, it all adds up to me, but then again, I'm very logical, and take ALL related information into consideration before making conclusions, this is something I know 70% of the population simply cannot do, most people have strong opinions about shit they don't even understand, prohibition is a prime example, and in the time it came about around 1840, it took THIS LONG for even half the population to realize it's a bullshit system, and only now, do more people believe than not, over the last 10 years, people have woken up from what appeared to be a deep sleep of ignorance and bliss.

With that said, it doesn't surprise me that these, or any potential accusation is being made, I just would like to believe I'm being challenged by someone that actually gets things, something like hoping for the day.

Garm said:

Yes living in Alberta you pretty much have to grow indoors. I am lucky here. I have the same climate as northern Cali but am in extreme southern Ontario Canada. Last year I harvested Nov. 3rd. The lake keeps it warm here in the fall. And yes I have cactus that thrives outdoors here.

Good luck. I am sure you will find someone to help you and maybe turn that thumb of yours green.

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hey how come you cant grow outdoors in alberta???

Growop101 said:

hey how come you cant grow outdoors in alberta???

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because, not only does he suck at life, he sucks at growing and is too lazy to learn.

FootballFirst said:

because, not only does he suck at life, he sucks at growing and is too lazy to learn.

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The level of ignorance on this website is astounding, never have I seen such idiocy from this amount of individuals. None of you know a damn thing about me lol, yet sit behind your computers like all other 15 year old bitches that live at home with their parents sayin a bunch of shit online cuz they know if they ever said any of this to anyone in real life they'd get destroyed.

Take some more acne cream...

FootballFirst said:

because, not only does he suck at life, he sucks at growing and is too lazy to learn.

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Yea apparently eh.
i was like wtf? thought he was guna say some bs about federal rippers

Pharoah said:

The level of ignorance on this website is astounding, never have I seen such idiocy from this amount of individuals. None of you know a damn thing about me lol, yet sit behind your computers like all other 15 year old bitches that live at home with their parents sayin a bunch of shit online cuz they know if they ever said any of this to anyone in real life they'd get destroyed.

Take some more acne cream...

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Dude there is no reason you couldnnt grow outdoors alberta, Thats optimal place to do outdoor.

Actually it's hit or miss, the last 2 years were horrible, very early frost killing everything, trust me, I have 2 friends who did it. This year is proving to be optimal but don't think for a second it's the golden grove of outdoor cannabis growing, you're thinking Vancouver Island.

None of you know anything about me yet make such claims, most of you I can bet are functionally retarded, and because "You can grow weed and I can't" that somehow your intellect surpasses mine, which tells me in that aspect alone how little intellect you actually posses.

My "Growing Ability" has absolutely nothing to do with my intellect, and has everything to do with other aspects, such as physical limitations, and financial limitations. None of which are even remotely connected to lack of intellect. Example 1 is Stephen Hawking. Example 2 is Einstein who happened to work in the Patent office making a meager living until his theories developed into something of reputation. Oh, BTW, Einstein couldn't spell to save his life... does that 1 aspect make him as stupid as you claim I am?

You people are bottom feeders, I'm done with this place.

why did you say you would pay a grower for 18g/ day if thats all that they grew? like it matters?

but more importantly its obvious you cant afford even that, as that would be around 90$ a day, appropriately as it is over a half ounce. nobody uses that much. stop saying you do cause we of all people know how much smokers smoke. thats way more than it costs to grow.

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why did you say you would pay a grower for 18g/ day if thats all that they grew? like it matters?

but more importantly its obvious you cant afford even that, as that would be around 90$ a day, appropriately as it is over a half ounce. nobody uses that much. stop saying you do cause we of all people know how much smokers smoke. thats way more than it costs to grow.

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I barely smoke at all, most of my consumption is in the form of baked goods and juice. Not all people who use cannabis smoke it...

In addition to that, I said I would pay an agreed upon price, NOT a price dictated.

I'm going to request this thread be locked now, as you people are grabbing at straws. You all ignore information planted right in front of your face and make wild claims and accusations.

Wow this shit gave me a headache. I'm not even going to involve myself in this one. I don't really see a need for it to be locked. You're attitude asked for these replies and I agree with what a lot of others have said... Grow your own.