mycorrhiza question

calliandra

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Ii pressure cook to obtain sterile conditions for dung loving species but the wood lovers do not require sterile conditions and i simply soak wood for 24-72 hours, drain, and inoculate. I have been practicing fruiting dung loving outside by burying in soil, only to find that after a good rain they will fruit pretty thick stems that have risen 4" through soil casing.

So, what you're getting at with the skewed direction and all is that i will likely not get much feedback from anything observed? i mean, its not a scholarly attempt at anything, just a cucky idea i had while eating shrooms. I figure, get some smart pots so the myc breaths and they either get along separately, appear to mingle, or one kills the other.

but hey, thats a plus that you think applying a little mycelium in root development is not a bad idea.

white boards are great for thinking
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Ohlol, who am I, of all people, to stop anyone from trying out crazy shit? :bigjoint:
So it was a shroomy idea huh LOL
No the skewed direction was about having different special fungi in different areas of your pot ;)

And the woody stuff, do you think it will still leach N out of the soil?
That's the only thing, apart from the soil then maybe being too fungal for the cannabis, that could go wrong then, at least as far as I am thinking it through (which is no guarantee haha)
Will be fun to watch :D

Love the draping style to deal with temps haha! :cool:
 

DonTesla

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I wonder if wild bird seed would work better than the wood?

But then again, I just rooted 5 seeds in sawdust dom mix, and 5 more yet 100% aged hog compost so although heavily fungal and high in C its supporting mad life, tis fuzzy but plants are green!

Edit: too bad there is a litmus test to see if AMF's are present! (myco's)
 

iHearAll

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I wonder if wild bird seed would work better than the wood?

But then again, I just rooted 5 seeds in sawdust dom mix, and 5 more yet 100% aged hog compost so although heavily fungal and high in C its supporting mad life, tis fuzzy but plants are green!

Edit: too bad there is a litmus test to see if AMF's are present! (myco's)
cooked wbs would be good to buffer the wood lovers on top from the dung/grass lovers in the soil. i was planning on using aspen wood shavings and broken branches as a mulch.

I notice that pinning can occur through porous objects like cotton and the mycelium will consider it a nutritionless substrate. Air pruning pots lined with fabric may allow for pins to push through every so often. probably nothing spectacular but proof of life would be beneficial to gauge who all is alive.

i have been mulching with old oil-less cedar in my peppers and have some great looking mycelium growing through it. i remember adding cubensis mycelium but i doubt this is that
 
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iHearAll

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so instead of clones, im using offspring from a cross i did. Viper city OG xiii (fem) x Querkle (reg male). They were pretty uniform aside from three runts that had frostier and sweeter smelling buds. I originally grew them in solo cups to see what they would look like. I liked them. Now they are hopefully going to re-vegetate under 6-2 glr. There are a few more plants i would like to include but did not transplant them today.


So, im just using recycled soil with perlite and bokashi. I watered in the soil many many cubensis huautla spores. I just dunked the caps in water and shook it around a bit as well as rubbed the caps to get any dark spore prints off the tissue and into the water bowl. I also scraped the bottom of each cap to obtain the mycelium on the stem butts.

pictured is some non sterile shiitake spawn i have growing on oak and peat moss in a storage bin.

i selected a few good looking pieces of wood with mycelium and layed it on the soil surface, then covered with alder wood shavings. The alder wood shavings are just animal bedding.
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calliandra

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so instead of clones, im using offspring from a cross i did. Viper city OG xiii (fem) x Querkle (reg male). They were pretty uniform aside from three runts that had frostier and sweeter smelling buds. I originally grew them in solo cups to see what they would look like. I liked them. Now they are hopefully going to re-vegetate under 6-2 glr. There are a few more plants i would like to include but did not transplant them today.


So, im just using recycled soil with perlite and bokashi. I watered in the soil many many cubensis huautla spores. I just dunked the caps in water and shook it around a bit as well as rubbed the caps to get any dark spore prints off the tissue and into the water bowl. I also scraped the bottom of each cap to obtain the mycelium on the stem butts.

pictured is some non sterile shiitake spawn i have growing on oak and peat moss in a storage bin.

i selected a few good looking pieces of wood with mycelium and layed it on the soil surface, then covered with alder wood shavings. The alder wood shavings are just animal bedding.
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hm intriguing, bokashi! isn't that very early successional and on the facultative side of things? Have you used it to grow mushrooms before?
Cheers!
 

iHearAll

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hm intriguing, bokashi! isn't that very early successional and on the facultative side of things? Have you used it to grow mushrooms before?
Cheers!
In my introduction to cultivation years ago we were practicing fermenting the flour, rock dust, sawdust, and biochar substrate with bokashi and an EM solution then pasteurizing, cooling, and inoculating. Bokashi can thrive anaerobic and aerobic, its just used to starve out pathogens and add some water soluble nutrition. This bokashi was made on coffee grinds and peat. The perlite is around 35-40% of the soil. I hope this provides the oxygen to encourage root growth while still providing slice of real estate for microbial life.
 

calliandra

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In my introduction to cultivation years ago we were practicing fermenting the flour, rock dust, sawdust, and biochar substrate with bokashi and an EM solution then pasteurizing, cooling, and inoculating. Bokashi can thrive anaerobic and aerobic, its just used to starve out pathogens and add some water soluble nutrition. This bokashi was made on coffee grinds and peat. The perlite is around 35-40% of the soil. I hope this provides the oxygen to encourage root growth while still providing slice of real estate for microbial life.
Mmm this is getting more and more exciting to watch! :D
Cheers!
 
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