Need Confirmation: Mg def?

frankiejay

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I am 90% certain that this is a Magnesium deficiency, but as I have never seen a Magnesium deficiency before, I would like some expert confirmation.

Babygro? I know this is your absolute favourite deficiency...:???:

Thanks in advance!

If it is, the epsom salts are at the ready!

Oh and they are in soil, I've been feeding her a 5-1-1 Alaskan Fish Emulsion at 1/4 strength PH is fine, got 4 CFL's on her (2 23-watt daylights, and 2 42-watt soft whites) Temperature, humdity, etc... are all fine.

ETA: I realize the pic is blurry, but it's the best my shitty camera can manage. A description would be brown rust-coloured spots, and inter-veinal yellowing.
 

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akramtona

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Subscribing------------ I am using the same nutes. Babygrow also helped me figure out a good veg ratio. Good luck bro. :blsmoke:
 

frankiejay

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Thanks akrmatona.

I also forgot to mention that she's ~ 3 weeks old. *just* started feeding nutes and I'm still a bit unsure about feeding schedules.
 

kieahtoka

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You can be feeding it full strength nutes. since that is such a low NPK. That also looks like it does have an MG deff.
 

kindprincess

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i personally would work up 1/4 per feed until at full strenght. any signs of burning and you know you need to back it off. the only time i've ever burnt a plant with nitrogen was with fish emulsion. the stuff is weak, but readily available, and so it can burn if your plants are not yet acclimated to it.

kp
 

frankiejay

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Thanks KP! will do 1/2 strength next feeding, and step up from there.

Any thoughts on whether that's an Mg deficiency?
 

frankiejay

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An update: I added a teaspoon/quart of epsom salt my last watering, and the brown spots no longer seem to be spreading, which means that it probably was a Mg deficiency.

I also stepped up the nutes to 1/2 strength, but I'm starting to see some yellowing on the bottom leaves, which means i've got a nitrogen deficiency, so I plan on stepping up to 3/4 strength my next feeding.

Soooo basically, you were all 100% correct! Thanks so much for helping, and hopefully I'll be able to see the signs earlier & correct earlier my on my next grow!
 

babygro

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I am 90% certain that this is a Magnesium deficiency, but as I have never seen a Magnesium deficiency before, I would like some expert confirmation.

Babygro? I know this is your absolute favourite deficiency...:???:
Hiya Frankie!

Sorry I must have missed this, but fortunately others have confirmed your suspicions for you - it certainly looks like Mg to me. Is it between 4-6 weeks veg? If it is, it's definitely Mg - that's the time it'll show up.

The problem is, Epsom salts is only a fix to stop it spreading - it won't cure the underlying problem, which is often connected to your irrigation water.

The fish emulsion has a fairly low NPK ratio and as kp mentioned you can usually feed that at higher amounts than say a fertiliser with a higher NPK ratio, but a lot depends on the TDS of your irrigation water. My fish emulsion is recommended at 2-4 mil per litre, so you should be fairly safe at the minimum amount, or 1/2 of yours, but you're wise to start low as kp mentioned and work your way up.

Also bear in mind that the plant can take up to 7 days or longer to show signs of improvement after a feeding depending on how quickly it assimilates the nutrients so don't start going mad with the ferts if you see no improvement after a couple of days :)
 

frankiejay

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Yup, it's right in there at about 4 weeks!

I am using tap water - left out for a *really* long time so that the chlorine evaporates. I assume buying a 5-gallon jug of distilled water is a better way to go?

As for feeding - until I see a bit of improvement, I was planning on feeding every time I water, taking a step up every two waterings. Is that a good decision, or should I do a plain watering in between? The soil dries out in about 4 days, which is how frequently I water.
 
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