NEED HELP DIAGNOSING - LEAVES DIEING TWISTED NEW GROWTH

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BlazeMaine420

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I know it is hard to tell by pictures and sometimes the lights inside the tent with your phone change the color a little bit, but to me the drooping which possibly people are assuming is from overwatering could be but the claw effect is similar to an I had a nitrogen lock early on which is maybe because I don't have proper drainage or pot size is too small now
 
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Richard Drysift

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You just need to either simply pot up to a larger container or drill holes in the bottom your pot to improve drainage. If it's the latter your mix may now be anaerobic at the bottom from excess moisture in which case you should replace it. I would go with fresh mix in a 7 or 10g & in a few days i bet you'll see the leaves flat out or pointed up to the sky. Droop is from either too much or too little moisture; there's no other reason this occurs.
 
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BlazeMaine420

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Thanks, definitely overwatered to try and flush. Ive since let dry out and am repotting in 10 gal, currently in 7. I really believe lack of drainage and possibly root bound to blame. Appreciate all the help. Curiousty here......How many gals of water would you feed a plant in a 5, 7, and 10 gal container. It seemed to me my plants in the 7 gal (and I know all are different) like about a 1 1/4 gallons per feed.
 
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chemphlegm said:
I'm also guessing a nitrogen issue, but not lack of
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yup.this is what i thought as soon as i read stunted new growth.just got done dealing with mild nitrogen toxicity myself,i believe(happy frog 5-5-5) didnt get the full claw effect but the plant was green AF and slow growth.theyre in half gallon pots,flushed each with 1gallon and OVERNIGHT the new growth was light green.the rest of the plant followed and they have damn near doubled in size in a week.
 
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ANC

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There is a strange lightening going on near the veins. Wonder if it is out of iron.
You should be able to pick a pack up in the gardening section. Look for iron chelate, saw one today standing with orchid fertilisers.
 
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BlazeMaine420

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I think so too. The foundation i use through roots uprising contains 4% iron as well but havent been using it just the regular veg nutes which has no iron. I guess i need to use that again. To be honest never thought or considered iron. Def too small a pot size and im sure no iron.
 
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BlazeMaine420

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ANC said:
There is a strange lightening going on near the veins. Wonder if it is out of iron.
You should be able to pick a pack up in the gardening section. Look for iron chelate, saw one today standing with orchid fertilisers.
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Do you think roots uprising foundation would contain enough iron with 4%. What is iron chelate, how often do you use? Really unfamiliar with iron as it pertains to indoor grows
 
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BlazeMaine420 said:
Do you think roots uprising foundation would contain enough iron with 4%. What is iron chelate, how often do you use? Really unfamiliar with iron as it pertains to indoor grows
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ANC is far more qualified than me but yeah 4% Fe is good, plants need very small amounts but without any a whole shit storm will occur. They literally die.
 
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Most of my experience the last while has been growing aquatic plants.
This is very limiting, as you can only use nutrients and concentrations that won't harm the fish.
One of the feeding strategies is called EI. It involves near daily feedings, especially with iron as it can easily get bound up and unusable. Followed by a weekly change of 50% water. Of course, we aim for lower levels (0.5 to 1ppm).

Just google or hit amazon for chelated iron, a small pack is about $5, if you don;t have any other source. A chelate is a clumping together of elements, in a very weak bond. The agent we choose to bind to should be small and easily absorbed by the plants, with the iron piggybacking in through the cell wall along with it.
 
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BlazeMaine420

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ANC said:
Most of my experience the last while has been growing aquatic plants.
This is very limiting, as you can only use nutrients and concentrations that won't harm the fish.
One of the feeding strategies is called EI. It involves near daily feedings, especially with iron as it can easily get bound up and unusable. Followed by a weekly change of 50% water. Of course, we aim for lower levels (0.5 to 1ppm).

Just google or hit amazon for chelated iron, a small pack is about $5, if you don;t have any other source. A chelate is a clumping together of elements, in a very weak bond. The agent we choose to bind to should be small and easily absorbed by the plants, with the iron piggybacking in through the cell wall along with it.
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So my foundation base which actually contains .2% Fe, 3.0% N, 4.0% Ca, 1.0% Mg should be perfect. I failed tp use any wothout realizing fpr at least a month to 2. Think i should use once a month during a feed.
 
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