New Beginnings for Massachussetts and I

WeedFreak78

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Can anybody make a call on these- want to start flush( I'm doing Hydro) but don't want to start too soon- Still eating and drinking alot(2 gal.+ per day) but I'm letting PPM drop lower( around 550) as kind of a pre-flush. Hard to read trics- some clear, some cloudy, but varies bud to bud- same with pistils-most curled and orange, but a few still showing a little whiteness.Decisions,decisions-want this 1st grow to be AAA.
https://growdiaries.com/diaries/996-white-widow-auto
Don't flush, keep low ppm, 200-400ppm, to the end. Flushing is a band aide for people who nuke their pants with nutes. These plants aren't dead when we cut them, they still have active biological process going right up to, and actually after, they get cut and still need a full spectrum of nutrients, at reduced levels.


Give them what they want, no more, no less and they will stay healthy to the end.
 

Bosgrower

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Wish I knew what my Amazon/eBay trash COB lights output was. It says it is 1200w equivalent but it is hard to believe. Not sure if I should turn 1/2 the lights off.

View attachment 3896611 My white widow auto is on the right. One of my northern light is on the left. Still nitrogen starved but not as bad as her tall sisters in the hps tent.
Get an inexpensive multimeter and check your wattage at the wall. A lot of UFO mfrs will base wattage on the diode's max limits rather than what they drive them at. A quick check on Amazon for sub $200 1200w equivalent LEDs shows 250-300w ratings at the wall.
 

Bosgrower

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I also have a 600-watt version of this. I could use them both if need be but it's only a 2x4 tent that I'm planning on using for veg.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01L1Q5100/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Plants will grow under any reasonable light source, not necessary robustly, but they'll grow. From the specs on that brand, the case is the most valuable part of the build :( . If you're available for the get together I've suggested, bring the 600w along and I'll see if maybe it could be upgraded with 5000K white COBs and give you a real veg light. I know you can upgrade a MARS light that way, be interesting to see if we could do the same with yours.
 

greg nr

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There is an interesting discussion going in the quantum board thread about watts/sq ft. For HPS, the going advice is you need 50+ watts/sq foot. So about 400 watts in a 8-9 sq foot tent (2x4, 3x3).

The Quantum guys are saying that under cobs/qb, that number is closer to 25-30 watts/sq foot. So even at 30, that's only about 270 watts for the tent in flower. Figure half of that to get you through veg.

That's one QB or 2-3 cobs depending on driver. And then you only need that much towards the last week of veg. And, they have the flowers to prove it.
 

Bosgrower

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There is an interesting discussion going in the quantum board thread about watts/sq ft. For HPS, the going advice is you need 50+ watts/sq foot. So about 400 watts in a 8-9 sq foot tent (2x4, 3x3).

The Quantum guys are saying that under cobs/qb, that number is closer to 25-30 watts/sq foot. So even at 30, that's only about 270 watts for the tent in flower. Figure half of that to get you through veg.

That's one QB or 2-3 cobs depending on driver. And then you only need that much towards the last week of veg. And, they have the flowers to prove it.
I'm about to move the girls to a 2x4x5 Vivosun tent with 2 5000K Quantum boards in series on a MW HLC240-1050B which should give me a little over 100w per board. Should be an upgrade for veging ovr the temporary 4000K x 4 3590s @ 1400ma they're under now. Just waiting for my Wago connectors to arrive to finish wiring it up. I'll post the configuration once it's up ... 42" x 18" angle iron frame.
 
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greg nr

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Series? Are you sure? I thought those boards pulled like 115 front end volts? The driver only goes to about 180......

I was going to do the same, but in parallel. Just have to wait for the restock and hope I don't miss it.
 

Bosgrower

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Series? Are you sure? I thought those boards pulled like 115 front end volts? The driver only goes to about 180......

I was going to do the same, but in parallel. Just have to wait for the restock and hope I don't miss it.
Yup ... sure about it :)

Of course I was sure that Trump could never win too
 

greg nr

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Yup ... sure about it :)

Of course I was sure that Trump could never win too
My bad, the 240-1050 goes up to 238 fv, so it will work. I was thinking of the 1400 which only goes to 129 fv. That would get me to about 125 watts a board, but I have to do them in parallel.

That is, if they are ever back in stock. :(
 

greg nr

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I saw that. It's a long, but good listen. ;)

It's gonna be like getting a seat in a Japanese subway car. But at least these will be an improved version.
 

Bosgrower

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10% efficiency is nice, but I'm happy with the current gen boards I got. Now if my damn wagos would show up I could finish wiring and move the plants into their new veg home
 

Bosgrower

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Series? Are you sure? I thought those boards pulled like 115 front end volts? The driver only goes to about 180......

I was going to do the same, but in parallel. Just have to wait for the restock and hope I don't miss it.
I think Arrow has the best driver prices at the moment. You might want to buy that while they're in stock. Free shipping over $50.
 

be4meliz

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Love the diversity here- Bosgrower and I are running a week apart on new grows- he's soil and Cobs and I'm Hydro(DWC) with el Cheapo Viparspectra LED- But here we can cover building next generation COB setups,Weed Politics,get help on ANYTHING, cloning, trading seeds & clones- glad everyone hung and came back( during the Forum BS. F****King Hackers ! Still looking for a get-together-
https://growdiaries.com/diaries/1002-pineapple-kush
My current
In Flush( 1-2 weeks) with other. Got my CVault in today & me and Mom gonna have a trim party when WW is ready. Then I can make her daughter & brother some serious green butter.
 

Bountykiller420

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im in week 5 awsell, , not topped, next time im planning on topping for sure though, spent the day building my buddy a 4 cob light, meanwell 300watt cxb3590 3500k running at 2.1a with a potentiometer, thing is gonna rock his shit lol hes super excited i already got seedlings goin for him, forgot to take a picture of the damn thing....was getting rushed by the wife, anyways im trying to get him to send me some pictures, couple pics of the driver after i soldered and shrinkwrapped it....lol
 

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