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Wish you the best man! Hope you know what you are doing, I know you think you do

Serapis said:

Yes, I do intend to finish off the grow using LEDs. I still think they are the future of grow lighting, however they need to get some penetration. The lights G.O.D. just got may do just that. They sure seem powerful enough in the pics.

I'm not abandoning LED, just going to use it elsewhere, maybe nursery for vegging. I need to raise some serious funds, my area is dry, there is a need I can fill, but i have to be able to keep turning it.

I'm looking at the Secret Jardin 150 for the 600W. It looks to be a nice tent.

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Secret jardin closet are great for indoor growing.Anything from dr 100 up shouold be fine for the 600.Since you are getting a air cooled hood just have a small fan for intake and use a strong extractor fan to exhaust the room and the light by leaving one side open.I do this and my temps do not pass 82.It usually stays betwe3en 78-81.

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Is this what you used?

luckyskindaguy said:

I am constantly vexed by you Serapis. You change your mind and jump back an forth too quickly it seems.

Was this always your intention to get these weights or is this just a recent development? IIRC you were just growing for personal use, right?

If you were trying to pull those kinds of weights for the beginning, you were on the wrong track from the get go it seems.

Do you plan on just revamping the current space?

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I've had two roommates move out within last two months. Without going into my personal business any further than that, I need to do what I need to do. If you read anything more into my statements than that, I'm not sure what to tell ya. I have empty rooms, so I'm setting up a tent grow with the 600. I hope that is ok?

Serapis said:

I've had two roommates move out within last two months. Without going into my personal business any further than that, I need to do what I need to do. If you read anything more into my statements than that, I'm not sure what to tell ya. I have empty rooms, so I'm setting up a tent grow with the 600. I hope that is ok?

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I have a friend on here who did his first grow with a 690 watt hps and yielded 395 grams.Whats that 2 oz short of a pound.It was his first grow so you know its good.

Serapis said:

I've had two roommates move out within last two months. Without going into my personal business any further than that, I need to do what I need to do. If you read anything more into my statements than that, I'm not sure what to tell ya. I have empty rooms, so I'm setting up a tent grow with the 600. I hope that is ok?

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Well that means things changed. That's what I was asking. You didn't say roomies moved out, that means you can use additional space instead of the same space you have already designed.

I wasn't trying to pry, things just weren't adding up. Your post made it sound more that LED wasn't gonna cut it and you had higher hopes than you were going to get with your current setup so you are switching to HPS. Growing isn't an overnight thing though. Even if you setup the 600w today AND had plants ready to go in, it's gonna be nearly 3 months before it is ready to be "moved". I feel for ya bro. Why not just get roomies to replace the old ones for now?

What's the issue you are having with clones? Have you looked back at the method I had in my thread? That has worked 100% for me.

So your pretty much using christmas lights? Sorry I'm new to this just asking.

TTT3 said:

So your pretty much using christmas lights? Sorry I'm new to this just asking.

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You better read the whole thread

TTT3 said:

So your pretty much using christmas lights? Sorry I'm new to this just asking.

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Welcome back!


I will Lucky..

luckyskindaguy said:

What's the issue you are having with clones? Have you looked back at the method I had in my thread? That has worked 100% for me.

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I just went back and read it again and I'll give it a shot. I thought for sure these last ones were going to make it. They hit on 10 days and starting going yellow fast, still no roots coming out of bottom of rock wool. I'll get a razor blade, I have been using my small Fiskars to take cuttings and then cutting again at 45 degrees. I also don't have a propogation heating pad.... YET... I will order one. My tall dome sucks, it has a shitty seal on the trays I may look for something different there too. The top of my dome shouldn't be drying out so often.

How long are you waiting from when you take the trimmings to putting some root gel and putting in the rock wool?

Retris said:

How long are you waiting from when you take the trimmings to putting some root gel and putting in the rock wool?

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I don't wait at all. My actual actions should be OK, it's something I'm not doing.... heating pad maybe? They look great for 7-10 days and then I lose them. I spray strictly water on them until they start to yellow, then I use a weak foliar feed. They kept getting yellow til going completely pale and dying. If I pull one out of rock wool, it has nubs for roots, no established roots. Two of these may make it, but it's weak... the side shoots are growing up even though all the other vegetation has died off.

It could also be that tops don't root well. Next time will be side branches that I take for clones. I really don't want to pay $37 for every 5 seeds plus have to rely on snail mail.

Serapis said:

I don't wait at all. My actual actions should be OK, it's something I'm not doing.... heating pad maybe? They look great for 7-10 days and then I lose them. I spray strictly water on them until they start to yellow, then I use a weak foliar feed. They kept getting yellow til going completely pale and dying. If I pull one out of rock wool, it has nubs for roots, no established roots. Two of these may make it, but it's weak... the side shoots are growing up even though all the other vegetation has died off.

It could also be that tops don't root well. Next time will be side branches that I take for clones. I really don't want to pay $37 for every 5 seeds plus have to rely on snail mail.

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You do not need a heating pad for clones.To some people they help but i never used that.I just make sure it stays humid and slice some of the bottom of the cutting so roots can grow thru that.Also i trim the leaves as well.Im sure you will be able to get it soon.

Also ... if the clone is getting fed through foliar feeding, it doesn't encourage it to grow roots to find food.
Give them a choice, grow roots to find food or ... starve.

As you also may have realised, tops don't root as well as side branches.

Not wanting to pay high prices for seeds is why I will make Feminised seeds for every strain that I grow ... as well as not having the space for multiple "mothers in waiting".

Serapis said:

I just went back and read it again and I'll give it a shot. I thought for sure these last ones were going to make it. They hit on 10 days and starting going yellow fast, still no roots coming out of bottom of rock wool. I'll get a razor blade, I have been using my small Fiskars to take cuttings and then cutting again at 45 degrees. I also don't have a propogation heating pad.... YET... I will order one. My tall dome sucks, it has a shitty seal on the trays I may look for something different there too. The top of my dome shouldn't be drying out so often.

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A standard electric blanket will help somewhat. I used one until I bought a pad... Just a tip.

Bonzi Lighthouse said:

Like I said way earlier ITT, and pointed out by another poster, you have a problem and are clueless what it is. The 600w HPS will only make your problem 10x worse.

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The 600W hps is going into a 4' x4' Secret Jardin grow tent. 4 clip on fans, one large vortex centrifugal and 2 inlines.... it's not rocket science. What I am clueless about is why you bother hanging around LED threads?

Serapis said:

The 600W hps is going into a 4' x4' Secret Jardin grow tent. 4 clip on fans, one large vortex centrifugal and 2 inlines.... it's not rocket science. What I am clueless about is why you bother hanging around LED threads?

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Shit you might not even need all those fans.

wyteberrywidow said:

Shit you might not even need all those fans.

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I bought a fan dimmer as well Those Vortex fans can be loud and they move a lot of air. The inlines are to supply fresh air to and pull from the light hood. I'm just going to try to pull fresh air through first. The tent should make this easy.

Serapis said:

I bought a fan dimmer as well Those Vortex fans can be loud and they move a lot of air. The inlines are to supply fresh air to and pull from the light hood. I'm just going to try to pull fresh air through first. The tent should make this easy.

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Okay sounds good.So are you going to use the vortex fan to cool the hood and growroom?All you need to do is leave one side open so the air from the growroom is being exhausted with the heat from the bulb.After that you can use duct booster fans to keep air coming in and a second exhaust.Its up to you.But this is what i do and my temps do not even go over 82

The Vortex fan will drawing air through the carbon filter and exhausting the tent. The inlines are to pull air through the light hood. I'm hoping 250 CFM with air pulled from a 75 degree room will be enough for the bulb.