New Vero29 simulator with PPF

Usefull update to the simulator..Cant post links yet.

bridgelux com/products/vero-se-series

Cool, nice feature to include that. Here is a direct Link since you cant post them yet.
https://www.bridgelux.com/product-simulator

whoa i feel like horticultural application of white leds is actually a blip on the radar now!

Also got the promo email from Bridgelux.
I don't know if anyone has seen this but is pretty nice to see.
Click here
They still don't get the quantity over quality of light, but is something.

2.02umol/j system level is what i got from vero29C @1400ma

So why are most vendors claiming 2.25-2.4 umol/j ???



Somebody explain this please as im confused.

they state them @ Tj @ 85°C, nobody sane around here running them that hot, lower temps, higher ppf

If you were using these to replace HIDs you wouldn't be worried about temps.

sethimus said:

they state them @ Tj @ 85°C, nobody sane around here running them that hot, lower temps, higher ppf

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You can change the tc to 25 so the tj is 29 and still not come close to the numbers some are claiming and 29 aint going to happen annyway.

Plus there's 1 trusted company that actually puts there lights in a sphere that claims 2.01umol/j

What is a typical 600w HPS’s micromol per joule rate?

think about 1.3 to 1.8 after a few weeks of use. Maybe.1 more on 400V as opposed to 220

Olive Drab Green said:

What is a typical 600w HPS’s micromol per joule rate?

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Somewhere between crap and shit.

Se hps isnt worth talking about DE is good @ 1.86 for the deva..Apparently anyway.

diyled said:

Somewhere between crap and shit.

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Good rebuttal.

ANC said:

think about 1.3 to 1.8 after a few weeks of use. Maybe.1 more on 400V as opposed to 220

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diyled said:

Se hps isnt worth talking about DE is good @ 1.86 for the deva..Apparently anyway.

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Thanks, guys.

diyled said:

So why are most vendors claiming 2.25-2.4 umol/j ???

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Good question. What vendors claim those numbers?

GrowLightResearch said:

Good question. What vendors claim those numbers?

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Im not going to start throwing shit around just genuinely wanted to know why everybody had different data.

Driver/lens/reflector losses could be an answer to why there all different but not why there s high.

diyled said:

2.02umol/j system level is what i got from vero29C @1400ma

So why are most vendors claiming 2.25-2.4 umol/j ???



Somebody explain this please as im confused.

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GrowLightResearch said:

Good question. What vendors claim those numbers?

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I think that Bridgelux don't count any photons outside of the 400-700nm range.

diyled said:

2.02umol/j system level is what i got from vero29C @1400ma

So why are most vendors claiming 2.25-2.4 umol/j ???

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few people run cobs that hot

average cob user is 40-75W per chip

diyled said:

Im not going to start throwing shit around just genuinely wanted to know why everybody had different data.

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I was genuinely serious also. I do not know who has those numbers.
What @alesh said about counting photons (or not) outside the PAR range makes the most sense so far.