Newbie making canna caps

Hey it's my first post here let's see how this goes.. So I have a half a pound of gorilla glue trim/shake I bought from my local despensory. I am trying to make the MOST potent canna caps possible as this is my first time I'd like to know if anyone knows the best way to go about this. Measurements is what I'm really looking for and can you use the same oil over and over or what is the best game plan here? Please get back as soon as ya'll can as this is for pain management. Thanks

Sirtokesalot420365 said:

Hey it's my first post here let's see how this goes.. So I have a half a pound of gorilla glue trim/shake I bought from my local despensory. I am trying to make the MOST potent canna caps possible as this is my first time I'd like to know if anyone knows the best way to go about this. Measurements is what I'm really looking for and can you use the same oil over and over or what is the best game plan here? Please get back as soon as ya'll can as this is for pain management. Thanks

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Try the concentrate section. Personally I would make a half gallon of tincture with it. Put some in the freezer and eat it like ice cream it's so good but you gotta remember what it is or black out time...

Yeah, definitely bring the question over there.

I recently harvested 10 ounces of bud (not shake, leaf) from an outdoor plant and have been making butter, coconut oil and tincture from it.
Your question about straining and then introducing new matter is a good one.
One word of warning though .... as several people who have eaten my last batch of snickerdoodles will attest ... stronger is not always better.
Two of them wanted to go to the hospital (serious!). It was funny and not so much at the same time.
One other guy said he time-traveled and had an out of body experience. Never heard that before.
These are not newbies either. Long time cannabis users with quite high tolerance.
There's no turning back with canna caps. Really strong doses can make people uncomfortable ... and work in reverse as the patient sometimes becomes more aware of their body and pain, not less.

But yes, I too wonder if you can strain and reinfuse with more matter, though in my case I'm interested in infusing CBD into a THC tincture.

drsaltzman said:

Yeah, definitely bring the question over there.

I recently harvested 10 ounces of bud (not shake, leaf) from an outdoor plant and have been making butter, coconut oil and tincture from it.
Your question about straining and then introducing new matter is a good one.
One word of warning though .... as several people who have eaten my last batch of snickerdoodles will attest ... stronger is not always better.
Two of them wanted to go to the hospital (serious!). It was funny and not so much at the same time.
One other guy said he time-traveled and had an out of body experience. Never heard that before.
These are not newbies either. Long time cannabis users with quite high tolerance.
There's no turning back with canna caps. Really strong doses can make people uncomfortable ... and work in reverse as the patient sometimes becomes more aware of their body and pain, not less.

But yes, I too wonder if you can strain and reinfuse with more matter, though in my case I'm interested in infusing CBD into a THC tincture.

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I saw gandolph the wizard at 3:30am one night in a cloud of smoke in a parking lot on the Southside... #Concentrates

Cx2H said:

I saw gandolph the wizard at 3:30am one night in a cloud of smoke in a parking lot on the Southside... #Concentrates

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Haha!

If you don't mind sifting it first I'm attaching my recipe for coconut oil caps. I settled on sift as it's more consistent and concentrated, allows for easier/more accurate dosing and will knock down an elephant if you go too strong a dose. e.g. my first trial I (220 lbs.) and a buddy who goes 350 lbs. took a 160mg cap, we were both stoned for ~18 hours, I woke up more stoned than when I crashed the next morning and it lasted another 4-5 hours. If you're decarbing fresh sift add about 10 minutes to the decarb time to allow for the extra moisture.

I'm SPECIFICALLY using trim can someone tell me the ratio I should use trim per coconut oil

I don't see how you can get the proper concentration without making keif first. I made kief with dry ice and a bubble bag. Then I decarbed the kief. I used 3 grams of decarbed kief, 14 ml of melted coconut oil and two teaspoons of lecithin. Cooked that in a double boiler for 6 hours. Took a pipette and filled the capsules. It made about 20 capsules. The only thing I'm going to make different next time is adding cinnamon since my wife says she burps Keef for the next day.

Sirtokesalot420365 said:

I'm SPECIFICALLY using trim can someone tell me the ratio I should use trim per coconut oil

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Simple. You just cover the plant material until the oil is just resting above it.
That's as strong as you can make it without taking some of the other steps outlined.
Whether or not you can strain the oil and then infuse new plant matter, seems to be unknown unless someone else chimes in.
Just decarb first or you will be really disappointed.

For reference, 1 oz of good bud for 16 oz. of fat is your basic ratio.
But you're going to need to eat teaspoons, not capsules.
Five 00 capsules is the equivalent of 1 teaspoon.
To concentrate it further you have to sift it and use only the kief.
The plant matter takes up space reducing the amount of trichomes you can fit into the oil.
Hope that makes sense.
Really trying to help you man.

Sirtokesalot420365 said:

I'm SPECIFICALLY using trim can someone tell me the ratio I should use trim per coconut oil

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I'm making coconut oil for cooking, not for caps, but I use 1:4. Four ounces of trim and old bud into 16 ounces of coconut oil. We decarb the weed in the oven, then use a crockpot to infuse it in the oil. All plant matter is strained out before going into fridge or freezer. It's all a matter of how much you can stand and still stand. I use 2 TBS of my oil in a batch of brownies, and one of them will give me a good, long lasting mellow buzz. I don't like getting too high with edibles because of how long they last. I'd rather have a background buzz that I can kick up by smoking when the situation is right.

But one of my friends on IG was making caps one night this week. And he was using hash, and his ratio was 1:1.

So if I put say 2 ounces of trim in at once and use just enough oil to cover it how many caps would it take me.. also ways of concentrating the trim better to use are appreciated as well

Sirtokesalot420365 said:

So if I put say 2 ounces of trim in at once and use just enough oil to cover it how many caps would it take me.. also ways of concentrating the trim better to use are appreciated as well

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This is not a scientific calculation. It's an estimation.
Compared to bud:
2 oz of trim, ground and baked in glass or ceramic for 30 minutes at 225 degrees
16 oz fat
would be half strength.
So I'd use 4.
Too Larry mentioned 4 oz trim gave him a good buzz on 2TBS in a brownie recipe.
Figure 12 brownies so that's 1/2 teaspoon per.
So 3 capsules roughly.
5 caps is a tsp.
Assuming the THC/CBD levels of the trim is around 20%.
16 oz. of oil is gonna make a lot of caps. 00 size holds 1ml.
That's around 500 capsules.

Still think sifting the kief will be more what you're looking for, and less pills to swallow.

drsaltzman said:

This is not a scientific calculation. It's an estimation.
Compared to bud:
2 oz of trim, ground and baked in glass or ceramic for 30 minutes at 225 degrees
16 oz fat
would be half strength.
So I'd use 4.
Too Larry mentioned 4 oz trim gave him a good buzz on 2TBS in a brownie recipe.
Figure 12 brownies so that's 1/2 teaspoon per.
So 3 capsules roughly.
5 caps is a tsp.
Assuming the THC/CBD levels of the trim is around 20%.
16 oz. of oil is gonna make a lot of caps. 00 size holds 1ml.
That's around 500 capsules.

Still think sifting the kief will be more what you're looking for, and less pills to swallow.

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Yes on the kief if your goal is to make them stronger. Bigger bang in a smaller package. My buddy used hash {compressed kief} and did roughly one for one with the oil. His were pretty damn big too. No way I could have done a whole one and not slobbered on myself.

drsaltzman said:

This is not a scientific calculation. It's an estimation.
Compared to bud:
2 oz of trim, ground and baked in glass or ceramic for 30 minutes at 225 degrees
16 oz fat
would be half strength.
So I'd use 4.
Too Larry mentioned 4 oz trim gave him a good buzz on 2TBS in a brownie recipe.
Figure 12 brownies so that's 1/2 teaspoon per.
So 3 capsules roughly.
5 caps is a tsp.
Assuming the THC/CBD levels of the trim is around 20%.
16 oz. of oil is gonna make a lot of caps. 00 size holds 1ml.
That's around 500 capsules.

Still think sifting the kief will be more what you're looking for, and less pills to swallow.

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Thank you for answering relating to trim..Please explain this sifting your talking about and the process.. also if there are other processes for a beginner to get the most bang for my buck! I plan on 2 seperate runs one QP of trim/shake one QP of trim/shake and an ounce or 2 of bud. I'm a care giver trying to supply my patient the best I can since he is a dear friend of mine.

drsaltzman said:

Yeah, definitely bring the question over there.

I recently harvested 10 ounces of bud (not shake, leaf) from an outdoor plant and have been making butter, coconut oil and tincture from it.
Your question about straining and then introducing new matter is a good one.
One word of warning though .... as several people who have eaten my last batch of snickerdoodles will attest ... stronger is not always better.
Two of them wanted to go to the hospital (serious!). It was funny and not so much at the same time.
One other guy said he time-traveled and had an out of body experience. Never heard that before.
These are not newbies either. Long time cannabis users with quite high tolerance.
There's no turning back with canna caps. Really strong doses can make people uncomfortable ... and work in reverse as the patient sometimes becomes more aware of their body and pain, not less.

But yes, I too wonder if you can strain and reinfuse with more matter, though in my case I'm interested in infusing CBD into a THC tincture.

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Can someone report if it's possible to cook strain and repeat?

So I decided to buy a bunch of kief since y'all suggested it is better. I have 2 questions one can you tell me the perfect recipy for EXTREMELY strong caps including directions for decarbed and cooking. also is there more THC in bud or kief when cooking should I go half and half or all kief

Kief is collected by screening trim or buds. It can be done dry, like with a bowl with hose {the kind ladies wear} stretched over it. Or wet with screen bags made for the purpose in a tub of ice water. Kief is what hash is made from. It is much stronger than straight buds. The reason folks use trim is you have to do something with it. Larf is what you make it.

Just be careful. No need to ruin your tolerance levels. {it will cost you extra money or weed for the rest of your life} Make it so you need two to get really high. Or just add some flavor, and drink the oil.

And you can learn how to decarb watching You Tube videos. Just google cooking with weed, and you will get lots of good ones. But basically you want to grind you weed, then bake it around 210-220 for 45-60 minutes. {although there are lots of opinions on how hot and how long to do it} Too cool and the THC does not release. Too hot and it just gets flushed away. So low and slow is what has to be done.

Once it's decarbed, you mix it with the oil in a crockpot and let it cook for several hours. Then you strain out all the weed from the oil. Let cool then put in the fridge for a couple of days. Take it out and heat it enough to melt, then put it back or use it. I keep mine long term, so I freeze it.

{back in the 70's and 80's we wasted a lot of pot cooking it in brownies at 350F. Not sure what was getting us high. Maybe the placebo effect}

Sirtokesalot420365 said:

So I decided to buy a bunch of kief since y'all suggested it is better. I have 2 questions one can you tell me the perfect recipy for EXTREMELY strong caps including directions for decarbed and cooking. also is there more THC in bud or kief when cooking should I go half and half or all kief

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Tha recipe I posted above is for 100mg, if you bump up the amount of sift to make 150's they should knock you on your ass, I'd stick to 100% sift. Bud or popcorn is better suited for butter imo. There is much higher THC and other cannabinoids in the concentrated sift. The strongest sift is typically if I mix multiple strains.