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ttystikk

ttystikk

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dandyrandy said:
Laser radar has really brought the possibility of self driving cars into reality.
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We still need the processing power and AI to make sense of it and translate that into safe operation. This is a very tall order on a good day, and not all days are so good.
 
SneekyNinja

SneekyNinja

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ttystikk said:
We still need the processing power and AI to make sense of it and translate that into safe operation. This is a very tall order on a good day, and not all days are so good.
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The processing power is easily there...

The problem with current AI is a lack of ability to problem-solve with unprogrammed parameters.

They can do well in a virtual space, but theyre not so good at responding to the randomness of reality when it isn't something they're specifically programmed for.
 
dandyrandy

dandyrandy

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ttystikk said:
We still need the processing power and AI to make sense of it and translate that into safe operation. This is a very tall order on a good day, and not all days are so good.
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It's all ready here. Cost is coming down. Each ladar has it's own processor. We had it in aerospace 8 years ago. The military Bush 1. It's my business.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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dandyrandy said:
It's all ready here. Cost is coming down. Each ladar has it's own processor. We had it in aerospace 8 years ago. The military Bush 1. It's my business.
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Autopilot technology in aircraft is a MUCH simpler proposition, simply because up in the sky there's nothing to hit.

I'm not talking about the processor for the sensor, I'm taking about the processing needed for the necessary programming to handle travel in the ground.

It's also not the only sensor needed; lidar doesn't pick up paint stripes, so video is needed, plus software to interpret that output. And what about snow? Dirt roads? One way streets? Different paint schemes and traffic laws in different states?

I've been watching this tech since early days. It's a tough nut to crack because there are nearly unlimited different situations that must be accounted for.

It will get done. It won't be simple, quick, easy or happen overnight.
 
Fogdog

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dandyrandy said:
I'm invested in this one
https://techcrunch.com/2017/04/13/luminar-debuts-a-sensor-to-make-self-driving-cars-safer-than-human/
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Questions, offered not as a form of criticism but to point out how hard this kind of tech is to roll out for millions of drivers in environments from north Alaska to Key West, Arizona to Denver, not to mention Saudi Arabia, Virgin Islands, the smog of Beijing:
  • How does the system handle interference from other Lidar while on the road?
  • Aerospace is one thing. Automobile environment test specs are extreme in all corners of the environment test space.
    • How subject to ice and snow buildup?
    • Does the operator have to clean a part periodically in those conditions?
    • What about heat? 120-plus on the highway, sitting in a traffic jam in Pheonix?
  • What level of skill would be needed to maintain the system?
  • Would the system eventually wear out? What are the mechanisms of wear-out?
  • What about operating systems. When I buy a car, it's for good. Will the industry commit to maintaining every version for, say, 40 years?
  • Does AI in a car mean every system will become different over time?
What do you see as the largest obstacles to releasing this tech? Do you have a sense of how long it will take to bring it to mass production scale?
 
twostrokenut

twostrokenut

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UncleBuck said:
no, you lost more than just a "couple years payments", if that's all you paid on it (you are a known liar so i have to account for this).

you lost all those payments, the 20% down payment you claimed you made, the property taxes you paid, any and all improvements you put into the home, and the home itself.

but hey, at least your trailer will depreciate to $0.00 as well.

save the fucking trailernomics, you inbred racist retard.
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What makes you think I put anything down on that one? Oh right, you just bought your first home ever a couple years ago in your mid 30's so now you know all there is to know about home ownership and mortgages.
 
twostrokenut

twostrokenut

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jonsnow399 said:
Yep, the self driving cars aren't a fad, major companies like Intel are investing billions in them. As far as trusting computers to drive, I trust them more than the drunken fool,or 90 yr old to drive. With all their imperfections the death rate would go down significantly when self driving cars are common. At some point it the future it will be illegal to drive your own cars, at least in the cities and on the interstate.
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What is anyone going to do about my bikes in the city and on the interstate?
 
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schuylaar

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SneekyNinja said:
The processing power is easily there...

The problem with current AI is a lack of ability to problem-solve with unprogrammed parameters.

They can do well in a virtual space, but theyre not so good at responding to the randomness of reality when it isn't something they're specifically programmed for.
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That's what I'm concerned about..not the machines- the humans..don't trust them.
 
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