Nutrient mixing order..

NanoGadget

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Long time grower, new to hydro. Going to be using a modified Lucas formula. My understanding of the order to mix nutrients is as follows...

1 cal mag
2 micros
3 macros
4 silica
5 ph if needed

Does that look right? Please correct me of I'm wrong as I'm probably 3 days out from mixing first res and I'd prefer not to learn the hard way. Lol
Also, I believe I will be running HydroGuard, when should that go in?

Thanks in advance everybody.
 

whitey78

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Long time grower, new to hydro. Going to be using a modified Lucas formula. My understanding of the order to mix nutrients is as follows...

1 cal mag
2 micros
3 macros
4 silica
5 ph if needed

Does that look right? Please correct me of I'm wrong as I'm probably 3 days out from mixing first res and I'd prefer not to learn the hard way. Lol
Also, I believe I will be running HydroGuard, when should that go in?

Thanks in advance everybody.
Most likely it's not gonna make a difference but sometimes it does.....

If and when you use a silica product that always goes first..... If you weren't using a silica product you would use calmag first...

But since u ar using silica....

Add all your water obviously then add your:

Silica
Not really understanding the micro/macro part but that's when I'd add those
Cal mag last...
Always ph if need be at this point.... It's a good idea to let it all mix well and ph slow...


I run gh and blue planets 3 parts (both, gh is back up mainly) but i feed in the following order:

Silica
Micro
Grow
Bloom
Any other bloom boosters or additives
Then the calmag
And now is where i would ph if I had to, meaning if my ph lands anywhere between 5.5 and 5.8,I don't bother with it... If it's out of that range I'll adjust it as little as possible to get me into the 5.5 to 5.8 range and not adjust unless it goes up beyond 6.1 before a res change which is not usual...

When I stop using silica the last couple weeks of bloom the calmag goes first until I stop using that but the rest of the order stays the same until I,m down to just water....
 

TWS

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Most likely it's not gonna make a difference but sometimes it does.....

If and when you use a silica product that always goes first..... If you weren't using a silica product you would use calmag first...

But since u ar using silica....

Add all your water obviously then add your:

Silica
Not really understanding the micro/macro part but that's when I'd add those
Cal mag last...
Always ph if need be at this point.... It's a good idea to let it all mix well and ph slow...


I run gh and blue planets 3 parts (both, gh is back up mainly) but i feed in the following order:

Silica
Micro
Grow
Bloom
Any other bloom boosters or additives
Then the calmag
And now is where i would ph if I had to, meaning if my ph lands anywhere between 5.5 and 5.8,I don't bother with it... If it's out of that range I'll adjust it as little as possible to get me into the 5.5 to 5.8 range and not adjust unless it goes up beyond 6.1 before a res change which is not usual...

When I stop using silica the last couple weeks of bloom the calmag goes first until I stop using that but the rest of the order stays the same until I,m down to just water....
This is correct sir
Using silica or micros in the wrong step will separate and sink out the other nutrients.
 

whitey78

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I'll be honest.... I was as big of, if not a bigger promoter of h202 in the res every 3 to 5 days but recently (past month or better) I started out not adding it back at the midway point during the week and then stopped adding it to my 2 resivoirs all together and you know what happened? One day I went to turn all my plants 90 degrees so they get a different angle of light and I picked up one of the plants out of my flood table and noticed something I hadn't had before that day (2 grows in at that point and the h202 was the only change).... massive roots were growing like crazy all over the place under the square patern that my 30 sog pots cover; like they should be, which had not happened with the use of h202.. the only thing that was changed was the use of h202 at every res change and at a midway point before the next res change, or lack of use.

I still buy h202 on the reg and keep it in stock as it's nice for when a problem arises but I mainly use it for cleaning nowadays rather than root zone/disease maintenance/prevention... not that I wouldn't use it if I started having temp issues where a dose of oxygen to the roots would help out or dead/dying root issues needed something to eat away the dead root but everything going on in my plants root zone is alive and kicking well since I stopped using the h202.....

I am however able to keep my res temps in the 65-70 range at all times without much work so I decided that was the key to proper root health rather than pouring that shit in @ 1.7 per gal in a 50 gal res and a 22 gallon res 3 times a week each... it lasts longer cuz I only use it at res changes to actually clean my res with rather than mixing it in per gallon..... and the other use i have for it is by mixing up a gallon of sterilized water solution for my clones as they come out of the cloner to dip them in before they get transplanted... other than that...it's been shelved...

I think I may try hydrogaurd in the future or the giant container of mycos I got with my nute program (bpn high yield kit comes with an 8oz. jar of it...) still been scared to use it seeing I use 100% synthetic nutrients so I'm not sure how good of an effect it'll have or how long they'll last in that climate but h202 actually hindered my production rather than helped it in all honesty I believe.... if and when the thought of using h202 in my live res (live meaning up and running) crosses my mind it's only the first week when my zero veg clones go into a flood table, other than that I can't say it's as beneficial as I thought it was... if your water temps are within that 65-70 degree window, you don't have much to worry about... try phasing it out on your next grow.... I've seen your work (airwalker) and you aren't doing bad at all as it is so I'm just saying it's worth a shot if it'll gain you something...

think about it... by going via that old/complex equation/statement "the bigger the root; the bigger the fruit".... the h202 is always taking away usable root so in the end what's gonna get taken away with less root? Less fruit imo...

I'm a fanboy of blue planet nutrients as they're results speak well beyond themselves but I am most likely going to buy another 2-3 gallons of their grow - micro - bloom and somewhere abouts within that grow or 2 I'm gonna try a new line that's semi-organic/semi-synthetic like mills or something along that idea as I've been reading randomly without any use until now; over the past 5 years (while I was growing in "water only" dert) that the combination of synthetic and organic nute regiment will provide the best of all worlds, not just yield, not just quality, not just the flavor of the end product, but better than a synthetic or organic would do on its own in all aspects... I'm sure some organic hydro unicorn is gonna tell me why right after an advanced nutrient user attacks me because the last 30 products of the "fucking idiot grand master bundle" have what plants crave.... but In the end I have to digress and say, use what works for you.... but don't let the snake oil products be the evolution of the grower... and that's not saying H202 is snake oil, we both know it does its job, but maybe we were using it wrong.... forgive me, maybe I was using it wrong...

But aside from that.... happy holidays to all my friends... keep growing green....
 
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