Nutrients for soil grows

Giggsy70

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Here is a link to the study a lot to read but we'll worth it...
http://www.420magazine.com/forums/indoor-soil-cultivation/114640-top-nutrient-study-best-produces-most.html

Here are the 8-lbers some are more like 12lb-ers grown using a very similar simple organic method mentioned in my above post... These were all grown by the same person!! Proof that simple organics is the way to go and will produce as big if not bigger yields...NOT MY PHOTOS (after the last debacle when I showed someone something on here lol)
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Insane. I can dream of having something even remotely close and I would be stoked
 

bwailer

Active Member
I am a first timer and have two separate rooms growing about two weeks apart. I just started using Fox Farms Dirty Dozen on my first one and in about ten days I will use Technaflora Recipe for Success Starter Kit. I the last one is very cheap so I was wondering what everyone's thoughts on ithe are. Thanks.
 

Fish-man Dan

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My garden is in its 22nd day of flower. I also have a dozen auto's in the mix which are on their 5th week. This is my first run. I use a 40/40/20 mix of soil, coco coir, and perlite. I have been using the entire line of Kushman's Vegamatrix. So far my plants are thriving, and spend most of their time praying to the light. As a very novice grower, I am very pleased so far with the results I've been able to produce using the VM feeding schedule. I've got a journal of this grow going as well so if your at all interested to see the harvest pics feel free to follow . 20160815_171437.jpg 20160815_171416.jpg 20160815_171351.jpg 20160815_171402.jpg 20160812_180930.jpg
 

bwailer

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My garden is in its 22nd day of flower. I also have a dozen auto's in the mix which are on their 5th week. This is my first run. I use a 40/40/20 mix of soil, coco coir, and perlite. I have been using the entire line of Kushman's Vegamatrix. So far my plants are thriving, and spend most of their time praying to the light. As a very novice grower, I am very pleased so far with the results I've been able to produce using the VM feeding schedule. I've got a journal of this grow going as well so if your at all interested to see the harvest pics feel free to follow . View attachment 3758698 View attachment 3758699 View attachment 3758700 View attachment 3758702 View attachment 3758704
It is looking very nice, I think you are doing a good job.
 

Michiganjesse

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yeah, that info has been floating around for a while, i still cant believe they haven't done an extensive study on PBZ yet... sure would settle a hell of alot of arguments on forums haha. ive never heard of density before, i'll scope it out.
Density is the wip tightens them buds right up
 

Michiganjesse

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Need to DL tht link.....IMO, If you really wanna get great yields from organics,Got to understand whats going on under the soil....
Since ive read...... my Taste.....is awesome, and yields are getting close to my soiless grows.
Beech
Tried to open link won't work
 

Javadog

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Anybody here use Recharge?
No, but I looked it up....sounds fantastic...
  • Complete Professional Strength Living Soil Superpack with Both Beneficial Bacteria and Mycorrrhizae & Trichoderma fungi.
That verbiage "mycorrhizae & Trichoderma fungi" is a bit odd, but the idea is clear.

(the one is a genus name where the other is a type of association)

$30 for a half pound is a tad dear, but no more than Great White. (and that stuff rocks ;0)

JD
 

Damplamp

Member
Got a question I'm growing in soil

The soil is a special mix my local shop makes up all sorts of stuff mixed together great stuff but any way.
Question is this I'm currently doing a feeding with nutes and then next time water and then nutes but I'm wondering can I not do 2 or more nute waterings then do a good water flush after doing nutes a few times in a row would this be good for plants or end up bunging root system up with deposits and burning the plants ?? They are currently in week 3.5 of flower still got around 5-6 weeks left I'm
Thinking ...any input would be great
 

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Javadog

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I have done grows where I did not alternate feedings with plain water.

I typically challenge my grows with Big Bud, Kushy Kush, or Bud Candy,
or some such, and so a plain water break seems right on occasion, but
they are not mandatory.

Good luck,

JD
 

jimihendrix1

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For a chemical grow I use.... Sun Bulb.... Orchid Plus Veg x Better Grow Orchid Fertilizer.

Its got very high quality nutrients, including Magnesium, which is the #1 deficiency for container grown plants, and weed uses a considerable amount of Magnesium. Non Urea Nitrogen source. Contains Nitrate Nitrogen only. Much of the Urea used in other formulas turns to gas, and is a waste, and a cheap filler.

It also leaves very little, if any salt deposits. Its very clean/soluable.

It comes in both Veg/Flower formulas, + all Micros.

Better-Gro® Orchid Plus® plant food:

    • Is a specially formulated food, containing fast-acting nitrate nitrogen to enhance growth in orchids
    • Contains no urea nitrogen
    • Contains essential minor elements to combat deficiencies that occur with many soilless potting mixes
    • Was developed by master growers and is the orchid food of choice for all orchid enthusiasts
    • 20-14-13 formula
    • Is endorsed by the American Orchid Society
    • Comes in a handy re-sealable bag
    • Available in convenient 16oz (.45 kg) siz
  • I use it at the rate or 5 Gallons of Water x 2 x tsp Veg formula x 1 x tsp Flower Formula in Veg, and I feed/water them with it every time I water.

Better-Gro® Orchid Better-Bloom® plant food:

  • Contains a high content of phosphorus used to encourage flowering, enhance bloom color, and maximize bloom size
  • Contains essential minor elements to combat deficiencies that occur with many soilless potting mixes
  • Contains no urea nitrogren
  • Was developed by master growers: 11-35-15 formula
  • Is endorsed by the American Orchid Society
  • Comes in a handy re-sealable bag
  • Available in convenient 16 oz. (.45 kg) size


I use at the rate of 5 Gallons Water x 2 x tsp Flower x 1 tsp x Veg Formula

Feed/Water every time.

I use Promix BX which also has Mycorrhizae.

Also for young seedlings I of course cut the fert back accordingly, and don't feed full strength. Start with 1/4

I also grow in 20 Gallon containers with 1000 watt Hortilux 145,000 lumen Super Bulbs which is Blue enhanced. I use this bulb in both Veg/Flowering. 1-2 x 20 gallon containers per light, with maybe 3 x 5 gallon buckets strategically located. At its best this set up gets 2lbs per light with Mr Nice SSH. Reserva Kosher Kush, Mr Nice Critical Mass, and Critical Skunk.

Plants are heavily trained/bent, but no pruning.


Heres a bad shot of some Kosher Kush.

The large bud weighs in a 43gs dry as a bone. The other is 18. These buds came from a plant in a 5 gallon bucket, and it had a 7oz yield. Its now in a jar. Or several.

Long bud is around 20 inches. That's a Les Paul guitar case.

 

Michiganjesse

Well-Known Member
For a chemical grow I use.... Sun Bulb.... Orchid Plus Veg x Better Grow Orchid Fertilizer.

Its got very high quality nutrients, including Magnesium, which is the #1 deficiency for container grown plants, and weed uses a considerable amount of Magnesium. Non Urea Nitrogen source. Contains Nitrate Nitrogen only. Much of the Urea used in other formulas turns to gas, and is a waste, and a cheap filler.

It also leaves very little, if any salt deposits. Its very clean/soluable.

It comes in both Veg/Flower formulas, + all Micros.

Better-Gro® Orchid Plus® plant food:

    • Is a specially formulated food, containing fast-acting nitrate nitrogen to enhance growth in orchids
    • Contains no urea nitrogen
    • Contains essential minor elements to combat deficiencies that occur with many soilless potting mixes
    • Was developed by master growers and is the orchid food of choice for all orchid enthusiasts
    • 20-14-13 formula
    • Is endorsed by the American Orchid Society
    • Comes in a handy re-sealable bag
    • Available in convenient 16oz (.45 kg) siz
  • I use it at the rate or 5 Gallons of Water x 2 x tsp Veg formula x 1 x tsp Flower Formula in Veg, and I feed/water them with it every time I water.

Better-Gro® Orchid Better-Bloom® plant food:

  • Contains a high content of phosphorus used to encourage flowering, enhance bloom color, and maximize bloom size
  • Contains essential minor elements to combat deficiencies that occur with many soilless potting mixes
  • Contains no urea nitrogren
  • Was developed by master growers: 11-35-15 formula
  • Is endorsed by the American Orchid Society
  • Comes in a handy re-sealable bag
  • Available in convenient 16 oz. (.45 kg) size


I use at the rate of 5 Gallons Water x 2 x tsp Flower x 1 tsp x Veg Formula

Feed/Water every time.

I use Promix BX which also has Mycorrhizae.

Also for young seedlings I of course cut the fert back accordingly, and don't feed full strength. Start with 1/4

I also grow in 20 Gallon containers with 1000 watt Hortilux 145,000 lumen Super Bulbs which is Blue enhanced. I use this bulb in both Veg/Flowering. 1-2 x 20 gallon containers per light, with maybe 3 x 5 gallon buckets strategically located. At its best this set up gets 2lbs per light with Mr Nice SSH. Reserva Kosher Kush, Mr Nice Critical Mass, and Critical Skunk.

Plants are heavily trained/bent, but no pruning.


Heres a bad shot of some Kosher Kush.

The large bud weighs in a 43gs dry as a bone. The other is 18. These buds came from a plant in a 5 gallon bucket, and it had a 7oz yield. Its now in a jar. Or several.

Long bud is around 20 inches. That's a Les Paul guitar case.

Going to try your formula works great for you. Only difference is i run led lights but i like the nutes it seems simple to follow
 

mmmpquad

Well-Known Member
Got a question I'm growing in soil

The soil is a special mix my local shop makes up all sorts of stuff mixed together great stuff but any way.
Question is this I'm currently doing a feeding with nutes and then next time water and then nutes but I'm wondering can I not do 2 or more nute waterings then do a good water flush after doing nutes a few times in a row would this be good for plants or end up bunging root system up with deposits and burning the plants ?? They are currently in week 3.5 of flower still got around 5-6 weeks left I'm
Thinking ...any input would be great
Feed it well but ramp up slow. I feed daily with a heavy feeding schedule but it is outside direct planted so the excess drains out. Fox Farm nutes are the shit and I highly recommend you try them next. You just need the grow big, big bloom and tiger bloom. Bud candy is useless because they claim it adds sugar to your plant which produces more than enough by its self. There powders seem to be way to aggressive and will make it easy to burn and give you root lock. Just watch the plant daily and adjust accordingly.
Good luck with your grow man.
 

mmmpquad

Well-Known Member
For a chemical grow I use.... Sun Bulb.... Orchid Plus Veg x Better Grow Orchid Fertilizer.

Its got very high quality nutrients, including Magnesium, which is the #1 deficiency for container grown plants, and weed uses a considerable amount of Magnesium. Non Urea Nitrogen source. Contains Nitrate Nitrogen only. Much of the Urea used in other formulas turns to gas, and is a waste, and a cheap filler.

It also leaves very little, if any salt deposits. Its very clean/soluable.

It comes in both Veg/Flower formulas, + all Micros.

Better-Gro® Orchid Plus® plant food:

    • Is a specially formulated food, containing fast-acting nitrate nitrogen to enhance growth in orchids
    • Contains no urea nitrogen
    • Contains essential minor elements to combat deficiencies that occur with many soilless potting mixes
    • Was developed by master growers and is the orchid food of choice for all orchid enthusiasts
    • 20-14-13 formula
    • Is endorsed by the American Orchid Society
    • Comes in a handy re-sealable bag
    • Available in convenient 16oz (.45 kg) siz
  • I use it at the rate or 5 Gallons of Water x 2 x tsp Veg formula x 1 x tsp Flower Formula in Veg, and I feed/water them with it every time I water.

Better-Gro® Orchid Better-Bloom® plant food:

  • Contains a high content of phosphorus used to encourage flowering, enhance bloom color, and maximize bloom size
  • Contains essential minor elements to combat deficiencies that occur with many soilless potting mixes
  • Contains no urea nitrogren
  • Was developed by master growers: 11-35-15 formula
  • Is endorsed by the American Orchid Society
  • Comes in a handy re-sealable bag
  • Available in convenient 16 oz. (.45 kg) size


I use at the rate of 5 Gallons Water x 2 x tsp Flower x 1 tsp x Veg Formula

Feed/Water every time.

I use Promix BX which also has Mycorrhizae.

Also for young seedlings I of course cut the fert back accordingly, and don't feed full strength. Start with 1/4

I also grow in 20 Gallon containers with 1000 watt Hortilux 145,000 lumen Super Bulbs which is Blue enhanced. I use this bulb in both Veg/Flowering. 1-2 x 20 gallon containers per light, with maybe 3 x 5 gallon buckets strategically located. At its best this set up gets 2lbs per light with Mr Nice SSH. Reserva Kosher Kush, Mr Nice Critical Mass, and Critical Skunk.

Plants are heavily trained/bent, but no pruning.


Heres a bad shot of some Kosher Kush.

The large bud weighs in a 43gs dry as a bone. The other is 18. These buds came from a plant in a 5 gallon bucket, and it had a 7oz yield. Its now in a jar. Or several.

Long bud is around 20 inches. That's a Les Paul guitar case.

Nice yield from a five gallon bucket. A few of those on rotation should keep you happy. A nice mild nute mix too.
 

Damplamp

Member
Feed it well but ramp up slow. I feed daily with a heavy feeding schedule but it is outside direct planted so the excess drains out. Fox Farm nutes are the shit and I highly recommend you try them next. You just need the grow big, big bloom and tiger bloom. Bud candy is useless because they claim it adds sugar to your plant which produces more than enough by its self. There powders seem to be way to aggressive and will make it easy to burn and give you root lock. Just watch the plant daily and adjust accordingly.
Good luck with your grow man.
Thanks man , well I have done two feedings in a row now full strength I didn't ramp up slow I had tiny bit of tip burn on a few plants but going to be doing a good flush with water today and try the two in a row again they seem to have enjoyed it and they look decent !
 

mmmpquad

Well-Known Member
My garden is in its 22nd day of flower. I also have a dozen auto's in the mix which are on their 5th week. This is my first run. I use a 40/40/20 mix of soil, coco coir, and perlite. I have been using the entire line of Kushman's Vegamatrix. So far my plants are thriving, and spend most of their time praying to the light. As a very novice grower, I am very pleased so far with the results I've been able to produce using the VM feeding schedule. I've got a journal of this grow going as well so if your at all interested to see the harvest pics feel free to follow . View attachment 3758698 View attachment 3758699 View attachment 3758700 View attachment 3758702 View attachment 3758704
They look really healthy and green good job.
It is overcrowded though. If you just put six plants in there and train them well you would probably get a higher yield than 20 smaller ones in the same space. Good looking room too.
 

jimihendrix1

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Nice yield from a five gallon bucket. A few of those on rotation should keep you happy. A nice mild nute mix too.

Sadly they got culled, as the Mr Nice Super Silver Haze, for me is a better smoke/plant. They were grown for a bit over a year though, and is good stuff, but not my favorite flavor. Buzz is top notch though.

SSH also gives more return on Bubble Hash, and Extract.

Getting ready to try the Elemental Seeds Mango Tango, and the New Brothers Grimm C99.

While I never grew the earlier C99, I did the Mosca, and while I had no problem with the weed, it didn't grow, fast enough, or produce nearly enough. Mr Nice Critical Mass is also being grown for around a year now. Will so far be keeping it.

On tap, I also have the

Elemental Seeds Grizzly Kush x 3 orders

Crocketts Tangie, Sour Banana Sherbet, 3 orders each

TGA Jack the Ripper x 2 orders

1 x Atomic Notrhern Lights

2 Sensi Seeds Afghani #1

Mr Nice Critical Skunk x 2
 

Damplamp

Member
They look really healthy and green good job.
It is overcrowded though. If you just put six plants in there and train them well you would probably get a higher yield than 20 smaller ones in the same space. Good looking room too.
Ya your probly right
I did a bit of training on them with the result of some getting 6 mains on them most of them got four but ya I got 19 in there they are starting to get crowded for sure but I'm
Happy with the size of bud so far with only about 5 weeks to go now ! But I may do what your saying and go with half that and just go bigger pots and more training ! Training really adds time to grow that's for sure
 

mmmpquad

Well-Known Member
Ya your probly right
I did a bit of training on them with the result of some getting 6 mains on them most of them got four but ya I got 19 in there they are starting to get crowded for sure but I'm
Happy with the size of bud so far with only about 5 weeks to go now ! But I may do what your saying and go with half that and just go bigger pots and more training ! Training really adds time to grow that's for sure
Yea you got it. Bigger the pot the bigger the plant there is just no way around it, but of course if all depends on space. If you do what your doing with more dirt and more space you would kill it.
 

mmmpquad

Well-Known Member
Sadly they got culled, as the Mr Nice Super Silver Haze, for me is a better smoke/plant. They were grown for a bit over a year though, and is good stuff, but not my favorite flavor. Buzz is top notch though.

SSH also gives more return on Bubble Hash, and Extract.

Getting ready to try the Elemental Seeds Mango Tango, and the New Brothers Grimm C99.

While I never grew the earlier C99, I did the Mosca, and while I had no problem with the weed, it didn't grow, fast enough, or produce nearly enough. Mr Nice Critical Mass is also being grown for around a year now. Will so far be keeping it.

On tap, I also have the

Elemental Seeds Grizzly Kush x 3 orders

Crocketts Tangie, Sour Banana Sherbet, 3 orders each

TGA Jack the Ripper x 2 orders

1 x Atomic Notrhern Lights

2 Sensi Seeds Afghani #1

Mr Nice Critical Skunk x 2
SSH is one of my top five strains.
 

Greenthumbs256

Well-Known Member
Would like to start a thread,for Nutrients in soil grows.

Brands used, and amount used and so forth.
and pics of results.

Thank you.
Beech
I use Mexican guano Jamaican guano and more bloom I'm in my first week of 12/12, 7 week veg. scrog. Today I fed with tea 1 gal pH water 1tsp mexi guani, 2 tsp Jamaican guano and 1 tsp bloom. If I'm missing anything plz let me know, im not the most experiencd grower, only my second grow. Would love some input and help thanks in advanced.
 

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