Nutrients for soil grows

Logan Burke

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for the last 6 years, bio bizz all mix soil, grow and bloom, and nothing else, i stopped ph checking the water 2 years ago.
Off topic question, apologies; But man those buds are awful close to your HID aren't they? Lol sorry I had to ask about it.
 

smokeingdog

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Gone with the new shogun nutrient range additives an will definitely be using there feed when my duct pro runs out,i also have advanced nutrients grow micro bloom an overdrive an B-52. I bought those for a oxypot i have but ended with root rot due to the water being to warm, by the time i sorted it it was to late it had set in, so i try again next time round.
 

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jimihendrix1

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Using 5 gal buckets. Is it ok to reuse soil from last harvest I flushed really really well was thinking of course mixing fresh FFHF ot FFOF with it. Thoughts?

My buddy just ran Mr Nice Critical Mass, and used both Resued Soil, and New. That's being the only differences. These were clones, and have been running for 1 year so we know that they should do.

The Reused was greatly lacking in terpines/flavor, vs the new potting mix. Id say it hurt it by at least 30%. Never had this problem with new soil
 

smokeingdog

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My buddy just ran Mr Nice Critical Mass, and used both Resued Soil, and New. That's being the only differences. These were clones, and have been running for 1 year so we know that they should do.

The Reused was greatly lacking in terpines/flavor, vs the new potting mix. Id say it hurt it by at least 30%. Never had this problem with new soil
Never reused soil,i read on the bio-bizz website that there all mix an there light mix can b reused, me myself wouldn't even bother reusing soil, it's been hammered for months on end with nutrients, additives, all the salt build up i know it can be flushed but a 30% loss is not something you want happening.
 

smokeingdog

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Im using DUTCH PRO A&B GROW AN BLOOM, for my additives i decided on a change an thought I'd give the new shogun nutrient range a go,WOW they have made such a noticeable change in the girls,i have been feeding them, shogun katana root start, shogun silicone, shogun cal-mag, shogun sumo boost,shogun pk 9/18 warrior, an also adding advanced nutrients B52,and i have advanced nutrients overdrive for when the time comes to pack that little bit extra into your buds,depending on strain can increase your yeilds by 30% an increase quality and taste. Some strains just increase the quality of the smoke. The plants have been on 12/12 for 4 weeks now it was 4 weeks on the 11/22/2016.they have gained alot more weight than usual at this point of the 12/12 light cycle when i use the dutch pro range,i plan on a total switch over to shogun nutrient range when my dutch pro runs out after this crop.
 

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P.DIZZLE

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That reminds me, I need to mix up a batch of tea right now.
I do something like this:


Vegetative Brew:
1/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano
1/3 cup Mexican Bat Guano
1/3 cup Earth Worm Castings
1/2 cup alfalfa meal
5 TBS Black Strap Molasses
5 TBS Liquid Kelp Extract
Optional: 2-5 TBS Fish Emulsion (depending on how strong you want it)

Feed every 3rd watering at 2 cups per 5 gallons water

Flowering Brew:
2/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano
1 cup Earth Worm Castings
2/3 cup Indonesian Bat Guano (High P)
1/2 cup alfalfa meal
5 TBS Black Strap Molasses
5 TBS Liquid Kelp Extract

Feed Every 3rd watering 3 cups per 5 gallons water.
When u mix your teas how much water do u pit ur ingredients into
 

Javadog

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That can vary.....you might want to dilute the result if you use a small volume.

I used a pump to make a waterfall and made 25 gals at a time, but bubbling in
a five gallon pot is good too.
 

jimihendrix1

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Hi, I'm going to do my first Northern Lights grow.
I'm using a tent, 600w aircooled hps, carbon can filter, exhaust fan is on a cooling t-stat. (Variable)
The soils I know I have access to are pro mix hp, FFOF, maybe FFHF.
The shop here might have more choices than that. The owner is relatively new and pretends to know more than he does.
I ordered humboldt natural grow and bloom nutes.
I do have budswell bat guano to use if needed.
I have cal mag on hand too
I can get dolomite lime.
I have super thrive.
I really want to keep it simple. I'm not afraid to add elements that are neccissary, but don't don't want to complicate it either.
Do I need to add any myco nutes to what I have listed.
I guess I just need a recipe for a decent soil build.
I have read through some of this huge thread and am getting a bit overwhelmed with options.
Thanks.
(P.s. I'm not new to growing, but it's been a few years and I'm rusty)

Sorry for the late reply.

The Promix HP is high porosity and dries out probably faster than necessary.

If you want to keep it simple ? And youre using chemical grow ?

This what we do, but also remember fert recommendations are just that. Recommendations. Watch youre plants and learn their reactions, or non reaction.

To keep it as simple as possible seek out some Promix BX, you need to add NOTHING to the soil if you do what we do.

Then look into some

Sun Bulb x Better Grow Orchid Fertilizer. These people have been in business since the 50s, are also endorsed by the American Orchid Society, and they only use the highest quality chemicals. And that means NO UREA NITROGEN.

They have both Veg/Flowering formulas, and are available online, and are cheap IMHO.

They are also 100% Complete Formulas, and this means this products also contain Magnesium. Which is the #1 deficiency for container grown plants, and MJ uses a lot of Magnesium. nd again the Mag is from a very Bioavailable source. They do not short change you on the quality, and source of the chemicals.

For seedlings we mix the formulas together at a rate of.

1 tsp Veg x 1 tsp Flower x 5 gallons water Feed each watering.

As they get out of seedling stage 2 tsp veg x 1 tsp flower x 5 gallons water.

Flowering is 2 tsp flower x 1 tsp Veg. x 5 gallons water.

Sun Bulb Company Inc
sunbulb.com


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YooperRex

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Using Sierra Natural Science brand of organic nutes for the first time this go around. Happy with the results so far. 11 weeks old and 2 1/2 weeks into flowering.
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Portlandia

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I use Fox Farm OF and Happy Frog mix with a little worm castings. 4 gallon pots 2600 watts MH or HPS (I can adjust lights from 300 watts to 2600) 8' x8' room. For nutrients I use the Advanced Nutrients Connosieur line, expensive but it works. When plants are exploding with energy growing in small pots (anything less than 15 gallons) they are prone to react to slighest imbalance of just about anything. I use RO water only and follow feeding schedule for nutes. I am old retired guy, first seed I planted was in 1966 in moms garden, (got busted). AN nutes cost me about $125 per grow,12 plants aprox 3 lbs perfect trimmmed buds plus per grow. I grow lower yield boutique strains, this crop is Laughing Buddah and Purple Ayahuasca. I got the seeds at Barneys Farm in Amsterdam last year. I grew out one seed from each strain and cloned enough for my grow. I have been in CA or OR so my grows have been fairly legal. Sounds crazy, but I have gotten some of the most amazing strains from clones I bought on Craigs List.View attachment 3853994 Some pics from one of my large rooms, an outdoor from 12 years ago and newer stuff. Downsized so I am now growing just for me and the wife.
 

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MichiganMedGrower

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Have good results?
Yes. I find it drains better with about 20% large perlite added. And I only have to water from clone cutting or seed sprouting until week 3 of 12/12 by transplanting to a bigger pot every few weeks.

Here is a clone I started right from cutting in it in a 16oz. party cup.

When it was rooted well I transplanted up to a 1 gallon nursery pot.

Deep well water only added and no ph adjustment needed with my water even though it is 8.0 ph and .3 EC

The oyster shell in it works very well as a ph buffer.

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