Nutrients for soil grows

evensis

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When I first started growing, the list in the mix seemed to satisfy a lot of the advice I was reading so thought why not! Turns out its a pretty good growing medium and I haven't moved from it, might try my hand at creating my own mix but seems a ton of hassle when this stuff does a great job.

There isn't a calcium deficiency, its the magnesium thats the problem. Know theres also roughly 30mg/l of calcium in tap water in addition to whats in the mix so would be surprised if I come across a calcium deficiency unless PH is out of wack (water here is PH neutral, so 4 drops of PH down into 2 litres gets it roughly to 6.5). Every grow I did before the calmag presented with purple stems and purple veins etc which the Cal Mag seems to remedy. I put it in at 4 weeks as a preventative rather than a treatment from past experience, and keeps it green. Would just give it a magnesium supplement, but the only thing I could find at the local was cal mag so went with that. Will try to source the magnesium on its own once the cal mag gets used up.

Aged bark is there for aeration you're correct and correct again on the azomite :) Bark is a pain the arse when watering though as its naturally buoyant, loves to move the soil around (or at least the top layer), and even had exposed roots before where its been laying directly atop them.
 
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lilmafia513

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SomeBeech, I hope this finds you well old friend. Glad to see our threads here are still getting noticed :) Hit me up on here when you come online. I am breaking out the beans and dirt again. Its been a long time since i have been on here and will need some old friends to help thru the grow :)
Be well Beech ;)
 

berryfrost

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I wouldn't use it for germination, but FFOF works great right out of the bag -- even with small plants.
First couple weeks after germination the FFOF can hurt some strains atleast it did for me once I stopped giving it straight FFOF it helped. But I'm no expert ...... yet
 

MichiganMedGrower

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I have seen a bit of leaf stress with ocean forest. But never burns or plants that don't just work it out.

I think drainage and overwatering is the common problem. Not the soil being hot. It is just a growing medium. Doesn't even have enough nutes available for an NPK rating.

As the roots fill the pots drainage can become an issue as the soil compacts so I always add 25% more large perlite to fix the problem.

I start all seeds and clones in a 16oz plastic cup of ocean forest and transplant up through flower.

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Seem fine to me. All plants recently watered with deep well water and growing well.
 

berryfrost

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I have seen a bit of leaf stress with ocean forest. But never burns or plants that don't just work it out.

I think drainage and overwatering is the common problem. Not the soil being hot. It is just a growing medium. Doesn't even have enough nutes available for an NPK rating.

As the roots fill the pots drainage can become an issue as the soil compacts so I always add 25% more large perlite to fix the problem.

I start all seeds and clones in a 16oz plastic cup of ocean forest and transplant up through flower.

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Seem fine to me. All plants recently watered with deep well water and growing well.
Learning more every post good stuff thank you
 

pop22

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If your growing in soil, why on earth would anyone put bottled nutes in it? make or buy an organic soil mix and grow start to finish with just water. The more you mess with your soil, the more problems are created. A good soil should need nothing, unless your growing a 6 month Sativa.

I've got nothing against bottled nutes, they just don't belong in soil, they are more effective in medium like coco.

Earth juice
General organics
Advanced
Are good for main nutrients and micros.
Organicare is good or botanacare. They have seaplex and
Fulvix or huevega
Nectar for the gods is a good line with everything separate. So you can really see what works and does what.
I use these .
Other people use jacks or dyna-gro or epsoma and other more expensive ones or fox farms and even cheaper ones
Age old organics looks good , haven't tried yet.
They all have this and that and you don't need every supposed bloom boaster ect.
You may need a cal-mag or calcium and magnesium supplement for filtered water*. and some extra potassium for bloom
* Check your local water report for things you don't want in your body
 

MichiganMedGrower

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If your growing in soil, why on earth would anyone put bottled nutes in it? make or buy an organic soil mix and grow start to finish with just water. The more you mess with your soil, the more problems are created. A good soil should need nothing, unless your growing a 6 month Sativa.

I've got nothing against bottled nutes, they just don't belong in soil, they are more effective in medium like coco.

It is to keep away deficiencies and help get results like this.

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Hybrid Grows are great in my opinion.
 

berryfrost

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If your growing in soil, why on earth would anyone put bottled nutes in it? make or buy an organic soil mix and grow start to finish with just water. The more you mess with your soil, the more problems are created. A good soil should need nothing, unless your growing a 6 month Sativa.

I've got nothing against bottled nutes, they just don't belong in soil, they are more effective in medium like coco.
You are the only one I seen say that ... to eachs own I seen big results with advanced nutes in soil
 

MichiganMedGrower

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Wait a minute!

I never argued which is better. All methods can work.

I water only in veg but have limited height and space so I keep to final 3 gallon pots. So I fertilize about 3 weeks into flowering til the end.

And here is my flower room. All different strains and crosses for variety at all different stages of growth to harvest plants perpetually.

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And yeah. I'm telling you I could match the results you posted. With any method and practice. It doesn't matter to the plant.
 

Tx-Peanutt

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IMG_0847.JPG IMG_0848.JPG I'm about to start 2 autos and I have a Rubbermaid container 1/3 full of happy frog soil and I just bought a bag coco loco .Shouldni put 1/3 equivalent to my happy frog a/ perlite mix of coco loco . My question being how much should I put ? And will it help? Any input will be appreciated...... Thank You:peace: Strains are Northern lights and short rider from Nirvana .
 

Tx-Peanutt

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Wait a minute!

I never argued which is better. All methods can work.

I water only in veg but have limited height and space so I keep to final 3 gallon pots. So I fertilize about 3 weeks into flowering til the end.

And here is my flower room. All different strains and crosses for variety at all different stages of growth to harvest plants perpetually.

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And yeah. I'm telling you I could match the results you posted. With any method and practice. It doesn't matter to the plant.
BOOM BITCH...LOL
 

Tx-Peanutt

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Wait a minute!

I never argued which is better. All methods can work.

I water only in veg but have limited height and space so I keep to final 3 gallon pots. So I fertilize about 3 weeks into flowering til the end.

And here is my flower room. All different strains and crosses for variety at all different stages of growth to harvest plants perpetually.

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And yeah. I'm telling you I could match the results you posted. With any method and practice. It doesn't matter to the plant.
Grow room looking really nice bro
 

Yodaweed

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It is to keep away deficiencies and help get results like this.

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Hybrid Grows are great in my opinion.
This was grown with water only using recycled organic living soil, as you can see, no deficiencies. Just gigantic towering buds that fall over cause they are so heavy.
 

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