OK... I give up

I've been having some issues with 3 of my plants, I am currently in week 5 flowering. At first I thought it was PH issues, I adjusted the PH in soil and now it sits within 6.4-7...

The signs started about 2 weeks ago and I've been working on it since then.

This is what I did,
1) Upon receiving my PH and fertility meter I tested the soil, it had low PH and very fertile soil, after reading it made sense since low PH created nutes block and nutes just kept piling up in my soil.

2) I kept flushing for over a week, I am using garden soil mixed with manure and compost so flushing was very hard I couldn't do it in one go.

3) As I was flushing plants started to look better and I thought this could be due to PH raising within normal levels therefore plants are now using the nutes in the soil.

4) Now they are showing signs and getting worse again. Can it be nutes burn?

Last signs started as follows
1) the tip of the older leaves burning

2) the burning gradually moved to the leaves, not in spots.

3) Petioles started turning pink, starting from leaf end till it got to stem end.

4) Pink started getting darker till it became purple. At this point all that I read said pink/purple petioles if not genetics is nutes deficiencies, that's when I got totally lost and panicked. I gave one feeding with 500 PPM NPK 20:20:20, 200 PPM calcium, and 300 PPM trace elements.

5) main stems now are developing pink lines starting from the top.

Pls advice, any additional info needed just mention it

pictures?
What brand garden soil?
Do you feel good about your watering style?
Any concerns about over or under watering?
Do you let your pots dry out between watering?

PH perfect Advanced Nutrients,

Get it, and regain your enthusiasm,

You can't just "wing It" Gotta have a game plan when the growing gets tuff. http://www.growweedeasy.com/basics

Buba Blend said:

pictures?
What brand garden soil?
Do you feel good about your watering style?
Any concerns about over or under watering?
Do you let your pots dry out between watering?

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I wanted to take pictures but felt very disappointed at how they looked I honestly couldn't take any, but I will take a few pics now.

Pots are dry 100%, I don't have a watering system, I check the soil daily and water those that I feel need watering. No soil brand it's literally garden soil

InTheValley said:

PH perfect Advanced Nutrients,

Get it, and regain your enthusiasm,

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Not available where I live, I'll try ordering it online, but meanwhile I want to try and save them.

Jypsy Dog said:

You can't just "wing It" Gotta have a game plan when the growing gets tuff. http://www.growweedeasy.com/basics

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I read that and lots more, but it's my first grow and the medium I believe is more challenging than I thought

Theres no perlite or vermiculite to help with drainage? Im no expert whatsoever but root rot could be the culprit. Im on my first plant as well 18 days into flower. Ive come to learn that good drainage is a must. I hope she turns around for ya.

JimmyTheNewb said:

Theres no perlite or vermiculite to help with drainage? Im no expert whatsoever but root rot could be the culprit. Im on my first plant as well 18 days into flower. Ive come to learn that good drainage is a must. I hope she turns around for ya.

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Drainage is excellent, whenever I water once I add 1.5 liter I have about half liter as runoff, and that's when they are dry... I don't know if that's good or bad

Yea sounds about right to me. Im not really qualified to diagnose problems yet tbh. Maybe you switched to flowering nutes to early and its needing nitrogen. Could be a lot of different things but it doesn't look as bad as i thought. I really hope you get it back on track. I do know that when leaves and stems start turning red its usually a phosphorus issue

Maybe Next grow change to coco coir and any brand bottled nutrient. You know what your giving them all the way though. Feed them light and watch them grow.

Cant say much about soil no real details on it. But for your watering if the soil is dry- water with .5 liters and let it sit then in a few minutes water the rest in that way it won't just run through.

Coco and 6/9 for the win....

Have you tried this? http://www.growweedeasy.com/marijuana-symptoms

Good luck!

That's nute burn. AKA: toxic salts buildup. Can happen around mid-flower from too high nute levels and/or mineral buildup from hard water. I get it from way too low RH and nutes being too strong for the low RH.

As you've already flushed well there isn't much else you can do about it. Not as bad as some I've had so I wouldn't fret too much.

I'd get something like perlite or rice hulls to break up the soil for the next crop for better drainage but I'm not seeing root rot symptoms in those plants.

Crop when ready and enjoy.

Naija said:

I wanted to take pictures but felt very disappointed at how they looked I honestly couldn't take any, but I will take a few pics now.

Pots are dry 100%, I don't have a watering system, I check the soil daily and water those that I feel need watering. No soil brand it's literally garden soil

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Glad you showed them.
1st grow and you will have buds that look pretty good. The soil you are in is probably causing a difficult grow. Next grow figure out a quality bag of soil that is sold in your area. Something that works for your style and that other growers on this site use so they can more easily diagnose any problems.. You will need to adjust your watering habits as it will drain so much better, but you are going to love the difference it should make. If these buds get you stoned you will be in for a treat next grow.
I use fox farm ocean forest from the bag (Adding 20% perlite is common).
It is a good soil for new growers. There are other good choices but I can only recommend what worked for me.

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Overwatering.

coreywebster said:

Maybe Next grow change to coco coir and any brand bottled nutrient. You know what your giving them all the way though. Feed them light and watch them grow.

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Next grow is definitely going to be coconut coir, I've already gathered loads of coconut shells and hammering them on my free time to make the soil.

ha·bit·u·al said:

Cant say much about soil no real details on it. But for your watering if the soil is dry- water with .5 liters and let it sit then in a few minutes water the rest in that way it won't just run through.

Coco and 6/9 for the win....

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I'll surely try that way of watering, excuse my noob question but what is 6/9..

StonerCol said:

Have you tried this? http://www.growweedeasy.com/marijuana-symptoms

Good luck!

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I've read just about every website regarding nutrients, deficiencies and excess, the problem is some are contradicting and it's hard to tell the difference.

OldMedUser said:

That's nute burn. AKA: toxic salts buildup. Can happen around mid-flower from too high nute levels and/or mineral buildup from hard water. I get it from way too low RH and nutes being too strong for the low RH.

As you've already flushed well there isn't much else you can do about it. Not as bad as some I've had so I wouldn't fret too much.

I'd get something like perlite or rice hulls to break up the soil for the next crop for better drainage but I'm not seeing root rot symptoms in those plants.

Crop when ready and enjoy.

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At some point the TDS on the runoff was close to 5000 PPM.
After 2 weeks of treatment it's now close to 400 PPM...
But what about the pink/purple stems? Can that be also from excess nutes?

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So you guys suggest I chill and keep watering using only PHed, and watch them closely??

Buba Blend said:

Glad you showed them.
1st grow and you will have buds that look pretty good. The soil you are in is probably causing a difficult grow. Next grow figure out a quality bag of soil that is sold in your area. Something that works for your style and that other growers on this site use so they can more easily diagnose any problems.. You will need to adjust your watering habits as it will drain so much better, but you are going to love the difference it should make. If these buds get you stoned you will be in for a treat next grow.
I use fox farm ocean forest from the bag (Adding 20% perlite is common).
It is a good soil for new growers. There are other good choices but I can only recommend what worked for me.

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I would have loved to, I've read about it; only problem for me it's not something I can use for several times, it will cost a fortune to ship one bag... that's why I think I'll use coconut coir for my next grow.

Thanks for the advice